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Dec 24, 2017 10:09:44   #
jkm757 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
rehess wrote:
And if you're trying to capture a 70 mph passenger train??


You better be really good at panning.

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Dec 24, 2017 10:19:25   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
When dealing with moving subjects Shutter Speed will always come first because if you don't freeze motion all you will end up with is a blurry useless image. The exception is if you are purposely panning a train, race car or whatever. But in that case you usually end up with a few missed shots for every useable one.

Best,
Todd Ferguson


I'm saying with digital (only); if you know you need a high or certain shutter speed than I would still set my aperture first.
If it can be wide open, great that helps the ISO be lower at that certain shutter speed.
If the photo demands more DOF than wide open would give, than adjust the aperture as needed and control the necessary shutter speed with the ISO, sacrificing, not the necessary aperture but the ISO.
Aperture is first so not to let the speed and ISO decide it for you.
ISO is second so it can be as low as possible while it allows for the shutter speed needed.
Shooting a fast object, set the aperture than set the ISO, higher than you may want if that what it takes to get a higher shutter speed.
Camera on a tripod taking a photo of a statue set the aperture then set the ISO to native and take what shutter speed it gives you.

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Dec 24, 2017 10:20:43   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Brucej67 wrote:
For these two I would also include exposure compensation because the camera meter will expose for the sky (I usually give it a +2):
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO


Agree with that, good point.

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Dec 24, 2017 10:26:48   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
rmalarz wrote:
Manual mode is just that. You make the decisions and adjustments to all critical settings. Anything else isn't manual mode. It's either Shutter priority or aperture priority. You're the photographer. It's up to you to decide what suits your situation and you do the thinking.
--Bob


Bob, helped me to shoot in manual mode, and there has been no turning back. It has made photography a real craft as when I used to shoot with my twin reflex Rolleis in the sixties.

Rick

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Dec 24, 2017 10:40:06   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)


I'd say this is par for the course, with one exception. Use Exposure Compensation with Aperture Priority. That bird in a bright sky, +2/3, bird in branches of tree in shadows, +1 or higher; bird in sun on tree branch, neutral EC; subject that has the sun in front of the lens, +1 or higher EC. This is my experience using most of my Canon bodies. Using Nikon may be a little different. I also use Evaluative Metering and don't mess around changing to Spot or ther others but in some cases you could use those instead of EC. But I find it fast to know when to use EC and just turn the dial instead of changing the metering.

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Dec 24, 2017 10:52:02   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
If, as you first stated, fixed everything, you'll only be able to photograph one type of scene. That scene being the correct light for the fixed aperture, shutter, and ISO. I'm sorry. That will just not be practical.

It's more of a system management situation. One has to choose to set the correct aperture/shutter combination to either stop action or greater DOF. When that fails, one may need to change the ISO. None of the three are fixed. Let's say one decides that 1/1000 is the optimum shutter speed. The aperture will need to be adjusted to affect the correct exposure. This will affect DOF. If DOF is the determining factor, then the shutter speed will need to be adjusted to accommodate the amount of light being passed through the aperture. They can't all be fixed. I hope this helps.
--Bob
CPR wrote:
Yes, absolutely. "FIXED" simply means the camera will not change the setting based on what the lens sees.
db

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Dec 24, 2017 11:06:55   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
DaveO wrote:
The Lone Ranger shot six bad guys with one bullet...


In an interview, Roy Rodgers once said that he used a Colt 45 because it only needed to be reloaded after 45 shots. (or something like that) LoL

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Dec 24, 2017 11:08:35   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
jkm757 wrote:
You better be really good at panning.


Or running along side.

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Dec 24, 2017 11:13:44   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
GENorkus wrote:
In an interview, Roy Rodgers once said that he used a Colt 45 because it only needed to be reloaded after 45 shots. (or something like that) LoL


It should be noted that rarely did his hat fly off.

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Dec 24, 2017 12:15:08   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)


No such thing, Dude! Manual mode is Manual, period, No "aperture priority". If you mean giving most consideration to aperture when deciding what settings you are making for exposure - I get it. But don't use A to describe it. You are going to confuse a whole lot of newbies.

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Dec 24, 2017 12:53:01   #
Ricker Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
 
Aperature priority with auto shutter speed AND auto ISO is my favorite setup for 90 percent of the shots I shoot. I use a Sony RX 10 mark 3.
Best regards, Ricker

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Dec 24, 2017 13:27:13   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
Set your aperture at the largest opening and you will get your fastest shutter speed at any ISO setting. - dave


IF there is enough light. Wide open may not have enough DOF! "Fastest" may not be fast enough.

My first 35mm camera was a Minolta SRT-100. I quickly became a shutter speed priority fan. I always set the speed to 1/f-stp to insure that the photo would not suffer from camera shake and adjusted the aperture to "match needle". There wasn't adjustable ISO (ASA) at the time, you got what the film offered, give or take some push or pull. As a result, my next camera, sort of automatic, was a choice between a Canon AE-1 or Konica T-4, both adjusted aperture to achieve proper exposure. Shutter speed you had to set manually.

Memories

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Dec 24, 2017 13:27:13   #
Stevewayne23 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
aperture priority has its place, but not for action photos. It never seems to get the shutter speed up high enough, has been my experience

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Dec 24, 2017 13:29:37   #
Kuzano
 
Jim Bob wrote:
And Tonto escaped without bruises after he went on some fool errand for the masked man.


And when surrounded by indians (ok-native americans for the pc) the Lone Ranger said "looks like we're in trouble Tonto!"

Tonto replied, "What you mean WE, white man?"

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Dec 24, 2017 17:06:36   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I know where your coming from. The aperture setting should always be your first decision unless you are shooting action or in very low light. In other words choose the aperture first to match the depth of field you require for your intended end result.

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