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Dec 23, 2017 12:27:29   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Jim Bob wrote:
And Tonto escaped without bruises after he went on some fool errand for the masked man.


It seemed appropriate at the time.

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Dec 24, 2017 05:42:39   #
Clapperboard
 
DaveO Was that one of they silver bullets??

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Dec 24, 2017 05:53:56   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
DaveO wrote:
The Lone Ranger shot six bad guys with one bullet...


And it was a freezing Christmas night, and when the Lone Ranger went to celebrate with a shot of whiskey or few in the saloon he did'nt take Tonto in with him. It got colder and colder. Tonto struggled to keep warm.

Eventually the sheriff came in and said "What's wrong with you? Don't you know you left your injun running outside?"

With apologies to Native Americans / First Nation peoples everywhere!

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Dec 24, 2017 06:39:36   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)


Good thought, I try to adjust a minimum of stuff. I shoot aperture priority, group auto focus, continuous auto focus, center weighted exposure, aperture at 6.3 on my Nikon 200-500 and keep my iso to a setting that I can shoot at a minimum of 1/1500 second cause I shoot wildlife in action. So, I simply keep my eye on the shutter speed and I will also play a little with exposure compensation when needed. I tend to do a quick and dirty EC of -.07 for a quickie of a bird in open air and and +.07 quickie if the duck is in the water. Then I may move up or down from there.

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Dec 24, 2017 06:57:21   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
When dealing with moving subjects Shutter Speed will always come first because if you don't freeze motion all you will end up with is a blurry useless image. The exception is if you are purposely panning a train, race car or whatever. But in that case you usually end up with a few missed shots for every useable one.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Dec 24, 2017 06:59:01   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
And if you are setting ISO and using Aperture priority then using EC all you are doing is changing the shutter speed.

billnikon wrote:
Good thought, I try to adjust a minimum of stuff. I shoot aperture priority, group auto focus, continuous auto focus, center weighted exposure, aperture at 6.3 on my Nikon 200-500 and keep my iso to a setting that I can shoot at a minimum of 1/1500 second cause I shoot wildlife in action. So, I simply keep my eye on the shutter speed and I will also play a little with exposure compensation when needed. I tend to do a quick and dirty EC of -.07 for a quickie of a bird in open air and and +.07 quickie if the duck is in the water. Then I may move up or down from there.
Good thought, I try to adjust a minimum of stuff. ... (show quote)

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Dec 24, 2017 07:58:59   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)


I love Ap priority for landscape in general. As for birds in the sky, you have something against shutter priority? Sort of what it is there for.

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Dec 24, 2017 08:48:21   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
For these two I would also include exposure compensation because the camera meter will expose for the sky (I usually give it a +2):
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO

par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)

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Dec 24, 2017 08:51:52   #
BebuLamar
 
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)


Great! It works for you. I don't do it like that though.

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Dec 24, 2017 08:56:10   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Manual mode is just that. You make the decisions and adjustments to all critical settings. Anything else isn't manual mode. It's either Shutter priority or aperture priority. You're the photographer. It's up to you to decide what suits your situation and you do the thinking.
--Bob
par4fore wrote:
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice, some examples;
Bird in sky, so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird in sky- good light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch- so-so light. Wide open= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Bird on branch-camera on tripod, good light. f//5.6-f/8= Tail in focus also.
Landscape scenes no foreground 1-2 stops over wide open (sweet spot of given lens)
Landscape scenes with foreground f/8-f/16
Landscape scenes out of a moving tour bus window. Wide open - f/5.6= Higher shutter speed/ lower ISO
Family shots at thanksgiving f/5.6-f/8 DOF is important here.
ISO is always second choice, setting this as low as I can to control the shutter speed needed.
Aperture setting in my mind has to be first choice... (show quote)

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Dec 24, 2017 08:58:21   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Fixed??? Are you sure about that?
--Bob
CPR wrote:
Manual Mode means Fixed Aperture, Fixed Shutter Speed, Fixed ISO - all fixed Unless you choose to change on the fly. Like we all had to do before the advent of Auto.........

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Dec 24, 2017 09:46:21   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
Aperture priority is seldom my choice. It is good for landscape where depth of field is important and nothing is moving, but for all else I need the shutter to be fast enough to ensure that I don't get camera shake or motion blur. If it's out of focus or blurred it was a waste of a shutter click.

Bill

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Dec 24, 2017 09:48:47   #
BebuLamar
 
I understand what's the OP was saying. He said he chose the aperture first even when in manual. Although when I use auto I only use aperture priority and never S or P but back when I had a manual camera I did it in shutter priority. That is I would chose a shutter speed first and then set the aperture to get the meter to match. I guess I did it that way because it's only possible to set the meter to exact center with the aperture and not the shutter speed. Most aperture ring although has click stops they can be used in between stops. Not so with shutter speed (of course there were some camera where the shutter speed can be set in between).

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Dec 24, 2017 09:55:40   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Peterff wrote:
And it was a freezing Christmas night, and when the Lone Ranger went to celebrate with a shot of whiskey or few in the saloon he did'nt take Tonto in with him. It got colder and colder. Tonto struggled to keep warm.

Eventually the sheriff came in and said "What's wrong with you? Don't you know you left your injun running outside?"

With apologies to Native Americans / First Nation peoples everywhere!


OUCH!

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Dec 24, 2017 09:56:53   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
rmalarz wrote:
Fixed??? Are you sure about that?
--Bob


Yes, absolutely. "FIXED" simply means the camera will not change the setting based on what the lens sees.
db

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