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Nov 12, 2017 13:22:58   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Pegasus wrote:
Exactly.

The way I envisage it would be to say something like "Exif, Joan and Fred doing limbo." You could do this right after taking the shot and it would apply it to the last picture taken. I could remain there for the subsequent pictures until you change it again or clear it, or you could make it that you always have to record it. You could also make it so you record it before the shot and it could be for that one only or until you change or clear it.

You could have a button to activate it or have it wait until you say "EXIF" or some such. I prefer a button so the camera doesn't waste power listening to you and everyone around you.
Exactly. br br The way I envisage it would be t... (show quote)


Pretty good idea!

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Nov 12, 2017 13:57:59   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
One possible issue that I see is that the spoken phrase includes words that we would not likely enter as Keywords. In your example the word "and" and "doing"... I find this interesting because I worked so many years in document management and imaging applications. Part of the issue is always what you, I or someone else call something and how to successfully search for and retrieve it. I am of course assuming that you would want to use this feature to somehow search for these images in the future. Of course the other interesting thing about searching is the question that comes up in classified environment. If you do a search and the system retrieves documents that you are not authorized to see, does the system tell you the documents even exist or not.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

Pegasus wrote:
Exactly.

The way I envisage it would be to say something like "Exif, Joan and Fred doing limbo." You could do this right after taking the shot and it would apply it to the last picture taken. I could remain there for the subsequent pictures until you change it again or clear it, or you could make it that you always have to record it. You could also make it so you record it before the shot and it could be for that one only or until you change or clear it.

You could have a button to activate it or have it wait until you say "EXIF" or some such. I prefer a button so the camera doesn't waste power listening to you and everyone around you.
Exactly. br br The way I envisage it would be t... (show quote)

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Nov 12, 2017 14:06:19   #
barbie.lewis Loc: Livingston, Texas
 
In-camera focus stacking
In-camera panorama
Voice-activation for features and settings
Speech-to-text EXIF notes

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Nov 12, 2017 14:34:39   #
cesar2
 
A good GPS

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Nov 12, 2017 14:54:44   #
Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY
 
Hybrid DSLR and Mirrorless.

https://photographylife.com/nikon-d850-hybrid-viewfinder

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Nov 12, 2017 15:02:16   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
JPL wrote:
From your posts you seem to be very open minded and curious guy about photography. So when you say you do not want a mirrorless camera I can hardly believe it. At lest you must want to try them. The mirrorless camera world is acutally already as big as the dslr world if you look at camera sales. And if you want something lightweight and compact mirrorless is the way to go. I think Sony is still the only brand with full frame cameras (if we exclude mf Fujifilm and Hasselblad cameras). That is why I bought my Sony A7r to use with all my manual lenses. But there are so many options for Aps-c, m43 and 1" sensor cameras in the mirrorless world.

I am not saying you should buy one or even want one. But for the generally open minded, skilled and experienced photographer like you it is very strange if you do not want to get familiar with mirrorless at all. I bet you did not act like this when digital came along in the beginning. Then you surely did not want to hold on to film and denied looking at dslr, did you ??
From your posts you seem to be very open minded an... (show quote)


At the time the Digital Revolution occurred, JPL - I was not even involved in photography, at all. In the mid-80s ... two quite different events occurred ... which made me pull out of photography, completely. First, a robbery at my home, relieved me of much of my photography equipment - including not only cameras and lenses, but also, light meters, flash meters, and a bunch of other goodies. Almost simultaneously, I discovered I'd developed skin cancer, and put it down to all the darkroom chemicals I'd been using. So, I withdrew from photography, completely, for a while.

Then, in the early part of the 21st century, I'd heard Fuji had gotten involved in Digital in a big way, so I decided to go into a local camera shop and see what was available in Digital to replace one of the cameras I'd lost. I looked at a 6mp unit, and decided that'd be the way I'd go, when I felt the time was right. But, it wasn't, then. It was 2010 before I finally decided to do it. By then, that dig cam had evolved into the HS-10 - a 10MP wonder with manual focusing, dual - count 'em - dual - macro modes ... and a 30x zoom (24-720) ... I was enthralled! That was my first dig cam. It kept me fascinated for more than a year, but, then, I got the inkling to get into a real DSLR! ... So, in 2011 - for my birthday, that year - I bought myself the 12MP Canon EOS Rebel T3. I was ecstatic! ... I then discovered none of my remaining FD lenses would fit, and so - proceeded to up my lens inventory, for the next year or two. Then, I saw Nikon had come out with an affordable 24MP DSLR - the D3200 ... so, I decided to up my res. Now, I had a 12mp Canon (with a - by then - extensive set of lenses for it) and a double the res - Nikon with zip alternate lenses.

So, I proceeded to change that, as soon as possible. But I found two of the lenses I'd bought, quite inexpensively, were D Lenses (Tokinas) and would not work with the D3200. So I set about the task of obtaining a D capable Prosumer Nikon. A used D90 looked as though it'd be the ticket, but I had to send it back after a month, in spite of having bought an LCD glass for it, and a dedicated battery grip - which I still have. A few months later, I saw I could buy a refurb D7000 for not a whole lot more than I'd paid for the used D90 ... so, I went that route. Now, I could use my two previously-purchased Tokina lenses on a Nikon camera! ... So, I was thrilled! ... But, I'd neglected my Canon - for which I had, by then - 10 lenses!!!! ... So, I made the decision to find a Prosumer body for my Canon lenses and an update on my T3. So, I bought the EOS 60D and the T4i in quite rapid succession. Now, I had three Canon bodies, and with the subsequent purchase of the 15-85 IS USM - 11 lenses for them all.

By that time, Nikon had released the D5300 with a GPS, and Fully Articulating Screen - as I had on my T4i - but that is also Touch. A few months later, the D5500 was released, which had Touch! ... Now I had one of each! ... A Canon w/ Touch, and a Nikon w/ Touch! ... So, I was all set for a while. But, I kept reading about the advantages of IBIS, so I decided to try it, by getting a Pentax - the K-50. Not wanting to be caught w/o a backup, a little while later, I ordered a used K-3 ... which, like the D90, before it - also, had to be returned. It was almost a year later, I decided to use my credit to pick up a new D7100, rather than buying a new K-3 ... a decision I've regretted to this day ... now, a K-3 costs twice as much, new, as it did, when I bought the used one!!!! Later, I decided to go the Sony route of IBIS, picking up, first, the a58, and then, subsequently, the a77 - both of the SLT design. No sooner had I gotten the a77, than the a77II was announced ... so that was my last DSLR purchase. I've considered others, since ... most notably, the 80D. But, I'm not sure ... I still am pining to replace that K-3! ... But, now ... the only affordable one is the K-3II - but, altho' it has GPS, they omitted the built-in flash to put it there. So, I'm in two minds as to what to do. I like to have a backup for everything. Some day, I'll sort it out ... for sure!!!!

What you don't seem to understand, JPL - is the following - a) I have a dozen DSLRs, already - representing FOUR different APS-C systems. I feel that's quite enough. It costs a great deal to maintain and update just ONE system, let alone FOUR! .... b) I don't WANT a mirror-less camera. c) my curiosity - as you put it - about other available systems - was both piqued, and sated - when I went the SLT route. I now have the best of the breed in that category, and have no desire, or need - to go wandering off into yet another - completely different system than I already have!!!!

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Nov 12, 2017 19:07:05   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Chris T wrote:
At the time the Digital Revolution occurred, JPL - I was not even involved in photography, at all. In the mid-80s ... two quite different events occurred ... which made me pull out of photography, completely. First, a robbery at my home, relieved me of much of my photography equipment - including not only cameras and lenses, but also, light meters, flash meters, and a bunch of other goodies. Almost simultaneously, I discovered I'd developed skin cancer, and put it down to all the darkroom chemicals I'd been using. So, I withdrew from photography, completely, for a while.

Then, in the early part of the 21st century, I'd heard Fuji had gotten involved in Digital in a big way, so I decided to go into a local camera shop and see what was available in Digital to replace one of the cameras I'd lost. I looked at a 6mp unit, and decided that'd be the way I'd go, when I felt the time was right. But, it wasn't, then. It was 2010 before I finally decided to do it. By then, that dig cam had evolved into the HS-10 - a 10MP wonder with manual focusing, dual - count 'em - dual - macro modes ... and a 30x zoom (24-720) ... I was enthralled! That was my first dig cam. It kept me fascinated for more than a year, but, then, I got the inkling to get into a real DSLR! ... So, in 2011 - for my birthday, that year - I bought myself the 12MP Canon EOS Rebel T3. I was ecstatic! ... I then discovered none of my remaining FD lenses would fit, and so - proceeded to up my lens inventory, for the next year or two. Then, I saw Nikon had come out with an affordable 24MP DSLR - the D3200 ... so, I decided to up my res. Now, I had a 12mp Canon (with a - by then - extensive set of lenses for it) and a double the res - Nikon with zip alternate lenses.

So, I proceeded to change that, as soon as possible. But I found two of the lenses I'd bought, quite inexpensively, were D Lenses (Tokinas) and would not work with the D3200. So I set about the task of obtaining a D capable Prosumer Nikon. A used D90 looked as though it'd be the ticket, but I had to send it back after a month, in spite of having bought an LCD glass for it, and a dedicated battery grip - which I still have. A few months later, I saw I could buy a refurb D7000 for not a whole lot more than I'd paid for the used D90 ... so, I went that route. Now, I could use my two previously-purchased Tokina lenses on a Nikon camera! ... So, I was thrilled! ... But, I'd neglected my Canon - for which I had, by then - 10 lenses!!!! ... So, I made the decision to find a Prosumer body for my Canon lenses and an update on my T3. So, I bought the EOS 60D and the T4i in quite rapid succession. Now, I had three Canon bodies, and with the subsequent purchase of the 15-85 IS USM - 11 lenses for them all.

By that time, Nikon had released the D5300 with a GPS, and Fully Articulating Screen - as I had on my T4i - but that is also Touch. A few months later, the D5500 was released, which had Touch! ... Now I had one of each! ... A Canon w/ Touch, and a Nikon w/ Touch! ... So, I was all set for a while. But, I kept reading about the advantages of IBIS, so I decided to try it, by getting a Pentax - the K-50. Not wanting to be caught w/o a backup, a little while later, I ordered a used K-3 ... which, like the D90, before it - also, had to be returned. It was almost a year later, I decided to use my credit to pick up a new D7100, rather than buying a new K-3 ... a decision I've regretted to this day ... now, a K-3 costs twice as much, new, as it did, when I bought the used one!!!! Later, I decided to go the Sony route of IBIS, picking up, first, the a58, and then, subsequently, the a77 - both of the SLT design. No sooner had I gotten the a77, than the a77II was announced ... so that was my last DSLR purchase. I've considered others, since ... most notably, the 80D. But, I'm not sure ... I still am pining to replace that K-3! ... But, now ... the only affordable one is the K-3II - but, altho' it has GPS, they omitted the built-in flash to put it there. So, I'm in two minds as to what to do. I like to have a backup for everything. Some day, I'll sort it out ... for sure!!!!

What you don't seem to understand, JPL - is the following - a) I have a dozen DSLRs, already - representing FOUR different APS-C systems. I feel that's quite enough. It costs a great deal to maintain and update just ONE system, let alone FOUR! .... b) I don't WANT a mirror-less camera. c) my curiosity - as you put it - about other available systems - was both piqued, and sated - when I went the SLT route. I now have the best of the breed in that category, and have no desire, or need - to go wandering off into yet another - completely different system than I already have!!!!
At the time the Digital Revolution occurred, JPL -... (show quote)


That's quite a journey in camera purchasing. The home robbery had to be heartbreaking. I remember drooling over the D90 when it was first released in 2008. I couldn't afford it then. Sony is coming out with a new DSLT, the a77iii. You seem to have some Sony DSLTs already.

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Nov 12, 2017 19:11:07   #
iggy Loc: Southern Utah
 
I'd like to see an array, maybe of three, buttons located about where the ae/af lock is on the d750, all of which can be programmed to my liking. With the d750, there are three buttons I can program, but they're all over the camera. I want a few in one area, then I can simply move my thumb a bit to the left or right. But, keep the two programmables on the front as well. This will give me a total of five buttons.

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Nov 12, 2017 19:24:08   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
John_F wrote:
A mode where you get three images with one snap: 1. large f-stop number to get deepest possible depth of field, 2. small f-stop number to get a smashingly great bokeh, 3. some mid range f-stop to get what can I say. Then there is the ideal: a little cable that goes from the camera to a pair of sensing pads on your head temples, then as your eyes wander a scene an eye blink fires the camera to take the perfectly exposed and composed image with settings to guarantee award winnings. No more eyelash grease on viewfinder, no more nose snot on LCD, no more 600 mm shoulder aches. Last stop - capture those amazing scenes seen only in your dreams. Think perfect get perfect.
A mode where you get three images with one snap: 1... (show quote)


Ever heard of bracketing, John? ... Sony alphas do that right out of the box. You actually have to modify their behavior in the menus if you don't want them to rattle off a half-dozen exposures at different shutter speeds, apertures, and ISO settings. Here's the ticket ... you can even set it so all of that is melded together, to come up with the perfectly exposed shot! ... So get a Sony SLT and you won't even NEED all that other stuff!!!!


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Nov 12, 2017 19:24:30   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
boberic wrote:
Any setting that would illiminate camera shake at any shutter speed


Olympus and Panasonic do that now. As long as gyros are used, the limit is 6.5 stops IS because the earth turns. I handhold on a semi regular basis at 2 seconds now. With proper technique, 5 and 10 seconds can be possible.

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Nov 12, 2017 19:44:11   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
mas24 wrote:
That's quite a journey in camera purchasing. The home robbery had to be heartbreaking. I remember drooling over the D90 when it was first released in 2008. I couldn't afford it then. Sony is coming out with a new DSLT, the a77iii. You seem to have some Sony DSLTs already.


Yes, it was, Mas ... after that, you sorta go into a deep depression, and shy away from any kind of cameras, for a while. It really shook me to the roots, I'll tell you. After that, photography, and cameras, in general ... weren't even in the cards, for me ... for quite some time ....

The D90 was an impressive camera ... still is ... I wanted one for the longest time. What impressed me the most about it - was the very large VF. Compared to the HS-10 (and ALL the bridges, in fact) using the D90 was an absolute joy! ... It was as though you were driving down a wide highway in the middle of the country. I've never seen or used a VF quite like it, since! ... The one on the D7000 isn't nearly as big! ....

I'd be interested, indeed, in a follow-up to the Sony alpha a77II, but only if they put the GPS from the a77 back INTO it!!!!!

Other than that, I'm not sure what I really want to see in an update, other than a modified input button ... that toggle took some getting used to!

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Nov 12, 2017 19:52:44   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
One possible issue that I see is that the spoken phrase includes words that we would not likely enter as Keywords. In your example the word "and" and "doing"... I find this interesting because I worked so many years in document management and imaging applications. Part of the issue is always what you, I or someone else call something and how to successfully search for and retrieve it. I am of course assuming that you would want to use this feature to somehow search for these images in the future. Of course the other interesting thing about searching is the question that comes up in classified environment. If you do a search and the system retrieves documents that you are not authorized to see, does the system tell you the documents even exist or not.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
One possible issue that I see is that the spoken p... (show quote)

I love guys like you; able to immediately find the problem with a concept that totally eluded everyone. Every one younger than 3 years old, that is.

And how in the hell did we get from storing "Mary and Joan dancing at wedding" as Exif data in a camera to pulling up classified documents inadvertently?

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Nov 12, 2017 19:53:26   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
iggy wrote:
I'd like to see an array, maybe of three, buttons located about where the ae/af lock is on the d750, all of which can be programmed to my liking. With the d750, there are three buttons I can program, but they're all over the camera. I want a few in one area, then I can simply move my thumb a bit to the left or right. But, keep the two programmables on the front as well. This will give me a total of five buttons.


Iggy ... many of my cameras allow you to reprogram many of the buttons via the menu system, and make them whatever you want. The Pentax K-50 I have allows that, and so do several of my Sony alphas. Also, there are USER settings on the dials of many cameras (the K-5 II has 3 or 4!) which allow you to set up various programs, all with your own specific settings. Check them out ... you might find what you want, already exists!!!!


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Nov 12, 2017 22:32:58   #
iggy Loc: Southern Utah
 
Chris T wrote:
Iggy ... many of my cameras allow you to reprogram many of the buttons via the menu system, and make them whatever you want. The Pentax K-50 I have allows that, and so do several of my Sony alphas. Also, there are USER settings on the dials of many cameras (the K-5 II has 3 or 4!) which allow you to set up various programs, all with your own specific settings. Check them out ... you might find what you want, already exists!!!!

Iggy ... many of my cameras allow you to reprogram... (show quote)


I have mine all reprogrammed. What I want is more buttons to program, and have a few of them right next to each other. I tend to over-customize things, especially when my OCD kicks in. I'm sure if they gave me five buttons, I'd probably want eight.

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Nov 12, 2017 23:32:45   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
iggy wrote:
I have mine all reprogrammed. What I want is more buttons to program, and have a few of them right next to each other. I tend to over-customize things, especially when my OCD kicks in. I'm sure if they gave me five buttons, I'd probably want eight.


OCD makes you start looking got more programmable buttons, that just aren't there, huh, Iggy?

Not sure whether that's good, or bad ....

Interesting concept!!!

OCD kicking in and out ... seems to me, either you have it, or - you don't ....


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