What's the Next Feature, you'd MOST like to see, incorporated in a DSLR? The Digital Medium moves at a pretty fast rate, doesn't it? ... Better have your say, now, before the next...

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

The Digital Medium moves at a pretty fast rate, doesn't it? ... Better have your say, now, before the next generation arrives .... OR ....

A slightly different question - but, along the same lines ... what feature would you most like to have, in your next DSLR ???

Doddy Loc: Barnard Castle-England

AI..A voice that will tell you "not to bother" if you have lined up a Crap shot!

Leicaflex Loc: Cymru

The removal of video from a DSLR.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Leicaflex wrote:

The removal of video from a DSLR.

Nikon already did that with its Df ... take a look, LF!

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Doddy wrote:

AI..A voice that will tell you "not to bother" if you have lined up a Crap shot!

Wow, that's really pushing it, Doddy ...

Keep hoping ....

JPL

Chris T wrote:

The Digital Medium moves at a pretty fast rate, doesn't it? ... Better have your say, now, before the next generation arrives .... OR ....

A slightly different question - but, along the same lines ... what feature would you most like to have, in your next DSLR ???

There are a few features I am waiting for, but the thing is they will not go into DSLR. They will enter the mirrorless cameras. Mirrorless opens a way for many more features than possible with DSLR. That is one of the reason why mirrorless will be tha mainstream camera of the future while the DSLR market will slowly fade away. I think the future of DSLR is in a way like film vs digital some years back if anyone still remembers that change in photography.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

JPL wrote:

There are a few features I am waiting for, but the... (show quote)

Tell me, JPL ... what features do you see going into an MILC ... which cannot also be put into a DSLR?

Please list them, in the order of their importance to you - ok?

JPL

Chris T wrote:

Tell me, JPL ... what features do you see going into an MILC ... which cannot also be put into a DSLR?

Please list them, in the order of their importance to you - ok?

Here are some of the differences.

No mirror - to eliminate mirror vibration and allow for more fps. Ok this is already in mirrorless cameras, that is why they are referred to as mirrorless.
No mechanical shutter - electronic global shuttar is the future. This could be done with both dslr and mirrorless but I think it will never be done with dslr.
More info in the viewfinder, like histogram. This is hard to do with Dslr but easy with mirrorless and already done in some mirrorless cameras.
Better manual focus capabilities. That is one of the big differences between dslr and mirrorless. It is easy to focus manually with a mirrorless camera if the manufacturer adds all the right tools for it. Some have already done a good job towards this in the mirrorless world. But this will always be slow and erratic process with a dslr camera.

There are also some features that can be done with mirrorless cameras only but as that is not yet done in any camera I know of, I will not reveal it here. I am working on making a business out of it and it could make a huge damage to my business idea to give it away for free here

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

JPL wrote:

There are a few features I am waiting for, but the... (show quote)

You seem to have collected quite a number of DSLR Cameras. Why would you want all of these 'Destined for doom items'?

JPL

Pablo8 wrote:

You seem to have collected quite a number of DSLR Cameras. Why would you want all of these 'Destined for doom items'?

There is nothing wrong with Dslr. I also have many film cameras and there is nothing wrong with them either. But the future is in favor of the mirrorless. They open up new possibilities for cameras with less mechanical parts and lower production costs and more reliability and new features.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

JPL wrote:

Here are some of the differences. br br No mirro... (show quote)

What's difficult about MF with a DSLR, JPL?

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

JPL wrote:

There is nothing wrong with Dslr. I also have many film cameras and there is nothing wrong with them either. But the future is in favor of the mirrorless. They open up new possibilities for cameras with less mechanical parts and lower production costs and more reliability and new features.

Glad I bought into the 'Mirrorless Cameras' (before SLR and DSLR) with my Leica 111c , and a few years later, my Sinar P 5 x 4.

JPL

Chris T wrote:

What's difficult about MF with a DSLR, JPL?

I sometimes asked myself that question before I got a mirrorless camera. A better way than to ask me is to make a comparison. Then you understand.
But to give you an idea I can tell you that it takes about 1-2 second to focus accurately with any manual focus lens on a good mirrorless camera with the lens aperture wide open. F.x. if you are in a studio focusing on the eye of a person and get a sharp picture of the eye when viewed full size. Can you repeat that with a dslr?

I know you can use live view and magnify your picture and get a sharp shot, at least with some dslr. But it takes too long. And I know you can use the green dot in the viewfinder of a Nikon to figure out when your picture is in focus. It is fast but not very accurate so not the results one wants in general.

I actually like manual photography and the reason I bought my first mirrorless camera was because it was too hard for me to get sharp pictures with manual focus lenses on a dslr. I was thinking about buying a split screen for one of my cameras to make manual focusing easier. Many people have done that and that idea comes from the film era when lot of cameras had split screens for focusing. That worked well and most manufacturers used that before autofocus came along. The ease and speed of split screen focusing was what I was comparing to and a dslr was never anywhere close in ease and accuracy, at least for me. Ok. I had sent a request for the split screen but it was not available for my camera so that did not happen. For some reason I decided to learn more about the mirrorless technology, not to solve this focusing problem, but due to general curiosity in photography and one of the first things I read about when studying this was some focus assist. That phrase got my attention and after reading more and visiting the nearest camera store to test a Sony camera and chatting with the guy in the store who strongly adviced against using non Sony lenses and cheap adapters on a Sony A7r I bought one and in few hours when I had set it up as I needed I found out that all my focusing problems were instantly solved with this camera. Then I understood for the first time the possibilities of the mirrorless systems.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Pablo8 wrote:

Glad I bought into the 'Mirrorless Cameras' (before SLR and DSLR) with my Leica 111c , and a few years later, my Sinar P 5 x 4.

Yeah, but neither of them, technically - are MILCs ... not of Today, anyway, Pablo ....

JPL

Here is a video to teach people how to focus manually on a dslr. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFijMKU9K_8
People seem to be very happy with this way of manual focusing. I would call this a total crap in comparison with using a good mirrorless camera. I say this because I have used this method and it is not a good way to get your pictures in focus, unless you are using f/8 - f/22 or whatever your options are towards that end of the aperture scale. Then you get lucky sometimes and get a few sharp photos.

Here is another video about how to manual focus with magnifier on the viewfinder. I also tryed that and it does not work well, not for me at least. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOV38S3BkLs

Out of curiosity, how do you manual focus a dslr. What do you think is the way to do it to get the best results ??