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Jul 10, 2012 09:59:54   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
I don't believe he is referring to a single incident but to all the people, worldwide, that may have been killed by a firearm on one particular day. wrr is not very bright.
wrr wrote:
What's not funny is the 85 people that were shot and killed in that massacre yesterday. Even stranger, CNN, FOX nor any other network covered the story. Oh, it happened in the USA...

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Jul 10, 2012 10:19:16   #
oldmalky Loc: West Midlands,England.
 
stevenelson wrote:
You can't really believe that if guns are banned that criminals won't have them. All you would be doing is unarming the law abiding citizens. Would it make you feel safer knowing that the only people that have guns are the ones that would kill you because you elected to take away everyones gun that would help you? You dont have very good logic.
oldmalky wrote:
A lot has been said about the felons carrying guns and they dont care if they kill you or not, ok, on that point arming yourselves is a good argument,on the other hand when all the killings happened in all the schools and such places who was it who pulled the trigger??was it the criminals who you have armed yourself against or just an ordinary citizen,If guns were banned surely the great majority of deaths would be those of the criminals dying at the hands of criminals.
You can't really believe that if guns are banned t... (show quote)


By taking away all guns the massacres that happen on a regular basis would not happen, that is my logic, as i said the criminals would be killing the criminals,

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Jul 10, 2012 10:24:59   #
Archy Loc: Lake Hamilton, Florida
 
oldmalky wrote:
If guns were banned surely the great majority of deaths would be those of the criminals dying at the hands of criminals.


Wrong...........

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Jul 10, 2012 10:26:12   #
Archy Loc: Lake Hamilton, Florida
 
oldmalky wrote:

By taking away all guns the massacres that happen on a regular basis would not happen, that is my logic, as i said the criminals would be killing the criminals,


Wrong again.............

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Jul 10, 2012 10:32:02   #
wrr Loc: SEK
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
I don't believe he is referring to a single incident but to all the people, worldwide, that may have been killed by a firearm on one particular day. wrr is not very bright.
wrr wrote:
What's not funny is the 85 people that were shot and killed in that massacre yesterday. Even stranger, CNN, FOX nor any other network covered the story. Oh, it happened in the USA...


Pull your head outa that dark spot ED, it's exactly as I've stated, an average of 82 people a day are shot and killed in the USA. That's all I've said in this entire thread yet I've been called names, had my intelligence questioned, even been accused of frying my brain on hot peppers. Yet not one person has acknowledged that the fact is correct as stated.

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Jul 10, 2012 10:34:52   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Well, Frank...you don't NEED your camera, either. So just give it up.[/quote]


Last time I checked there was no one killed with a camera so your point is just silly.
However, being you're apparently an advocate please explain to me why you need a 30 round clip or armor piercing ammunition. Last time I checked the hunting laws at least in NYS say you can only have a five round clip to hunt and I've never seen a deer inside an APC.

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Jul 10, 2012 10:42:42   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
And so it goes. As I said in the first post neither side is willing to compromise, hence nothing gets done.
Filled with views that are based upon television fantasies old men tell us how they need a gun to defend themselves accompanied by all the pablum that the NRA feeds them. Truth be told handguns are probably the least effective self-defense tool as the hit potential of even a well trained shooter is about 25% in actual conditions.
The other side totally against anything that is even related to firearms can't see that people enjoy shooting as a sport and think we can put the genie back in the bottle and collect the millions of weapons already in existence.
Folks, if we can't at least think about moving to the middle , we will never accomplish anything.

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Jul 10, 2012 11:21:42   #
Archy Loc: Lake Hamilton, Florida
 
wrr wrote:
I've stated, an average of 82 people a day are shot and killed in the USA.


So what…what is your point other than you don’t have one………….

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Jul 10, 2012 11:23:56   #
Archy Loc: Lake Hamilton, Florida
 
wrr wrote:
I've been called names, had my intelligence questioned, even been accused of frying my brain on hot peppers.


Whine...whine...whine...get over it you putz..................

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Jul 10, 2012 11:36:30   #
wrr Loc: SEK
 
Archy wrote:
wrr wrote:
I've been called names, had my intelligence questioned, even been accused of frying my brain on hot peppers.


Whine...whine...whine...get over it you putz..................


lol...no whine here...Archy, you remind me of one of those Dyson Fans, no blades but moves a lot of air...

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Jul 10, 2012 14:50:37   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
Frank T wrote:
And so it goes. As I said in the first post neither side is willing to compromise, hence nothing gets done.
Filled with views that are based upon television fantasies old men tell us how they need a gun to defend themselves accompanied by all the pablum that the NRA feeds them. Truth be told handguns are probably the least effective self-defense tool as the hit potential of even a well trained shooter is about 25% in actual conditions.
The other side totally against anything that is even related to firearms can't see that people enjoy shooting as a sport and think we can put the genie back in the bottle and collect the millions of weapons already in existence.
Folks, if we can't at least think about moving to the middle , we will never accomplish anything.
And so it goes. As I said in the first post neithe... (show quote)


With that attitude,you wonder why there is no compromise. You are a true wonder.Don't you even get it?It isn't about the NEED of a gun;it's our constitutional RIGHT!!!

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Jul 10, 2012 15:32:33   #
stevenelson Loc: Pauls Valley, Oklahoma
 
Wake up! If only criminals had guns they would be killing every one possible with no fear of anyone shooting back. You are just dreaming of a near perfect world where the bad guys only want what other bad guys have. Wakey, Wakey, and look around the the gangsters & gangbangers shoot inocent people all the time. It would be nice if we could keep gun out of crazy peoples hands. Good luck with that one.
oldmalky wrote:
stevenelson wrote:
You can't really believe that if guns are banned that criminals won't have them. All you would be doing is unarming the law abiding citizens. Would it make you feel safer knowing that the only people that have guns are the ones that would kill you because you elected to take away everyones gun that would help you? You dont have very good logic.
oldmalky wrote:
A lot has been said about the felons carrying guns and they dont care if they kill you or not, ok, on that point arming yourselves is a good argument,on the other hand when all the killings happened in all the schools and such places who was it who pulled the trigger??was it the criminals who you have armed yourself against or just an ordinary citizen,If guns were banned surely the great majority of deaths would be those of the criminals dying at the hands of criminals.
You can't really believe that if guns are banned t... (show quote)


By taking away all guns the massacres that happen on a regular basis would not happen, that is my logic, as i said the criminals would be killing the criminals,
quote=stevenelson You can't really believe that i... (show quote)

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Jul 10, 2012 15:45:02   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
Harvey wrote:
. . . The only reason Japan did not invaded the west coast of the USA was because they knew the west as an armed camp of civilian militia. . .


Really? How many reputable historians cleave to this view?

I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that it's a theory I'd never heard before, despite more than a passing interest in history.

Cheers,

R.

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Jul 10, 2012 17:28:11   #
pepperosa
 
marcomarks wrote:
oldmalky wrote:
I find it very sad that apparently a majority of Americans feels endangered enough to carry weapons at all times.


If more Americans carried weapons at all times there would be less to feel endangered by. It has been proven over and over and over in virtually every state in the U.S. - enact concealed carry and crime drops at least 25% immediately and stays that way.

I watched the new mayor of Chicago on TV today blathering on and on about what they're going to do about gang violence and their 275 deaths so far this year - 17 just last weekend. Nothing they have done works to stop violent crimes with illegal guns. And why? Chicago is in Illinois, the only state the country that does not have concealed carry. That right there says it all.
quote=oldmalky I find it very sad that apparently... (show quote)

Don't worry, obama is working on an arms treaty with the UN. Only the bad guys will have guns soon. Governments aren't concerned with stopping crime, they just don't like an armed public. An armed public can fight back, and that makes them a danger to those who want total control. If 10% of the people in this country said NO, and decided to fight, that would be 35 million people. That's a scary thought to those who want to take away our freedom.

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Jul 10, 2012 18:52:00   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
pepperosa wrote:
. . . Don't worry, obama is working on an arms treaty with the UN. . .


Source?

Cheers,

R.

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