Is Anyone Thinking of Switching From Lightroom to.. (Page 9): haha this seems like a pointless and evergreen comment that is pointless on a forum where people are interested in...

dhowland

cthahn wrote:

Do want you want to do. Who cares.

haha this seems like a pointless and evergreen comment that is pointless on a forum where people are interested in feedback and discussion. Maybe just keep it to yourself as your daily mantra or something?!

dhowland

jamesl wrote:

"ON1 Photo RAW 2018" does catalog your pictures and maintains a database. It also now has versions that work like virtual copies in Lightroom and offer built in HDR and Panorama modules to handle those within the program too.

I don't know much about the alternatives but am also thinking about the potential need for a switch. I don't do a heavy amount of processing but I do some and want to work the way I have with the desktop version of Lightroom. My first question is brought up in your quote above -- which programs work in virtual copies like LR? It's one of my favorite things about that program.

Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room

Raider Fan wrote:

Steve,

I am pissed off at Adobe too. I am looking at Luminar Netune but it will not be available in 1 Nov. I want to stick it to Adobe for leaving LR6 users in the position to either go subscription or go elsewhere. I am going elsewhere.

Good Luck

Tom

And there you have it: Choice

There ARE alternatives. Adobe has made its choice, and you have made yours. There is peace in the world once more.

jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania

dhowland wrote:

I don't know much about the alternatives but am also thinking about the potential need for a switch. I don't do a heavy amount of processing but I do some and want to work the way I have with the desktop version of Lightroom. My first question is brought up in your quote above -- which programs work in virtual copies like LR? It's one of my favorite things about that program.

"ON1 Photo RAW 2018" is the program that uses the "versions", which is the same as a "Virtual copy" in Lightroom. You can create as many versions of a photo as you want and they will show up in browse. It is all non-destructible and only creates a an actual physical copy of a version when you export the version. When you export you have options for what file type you want and the color space you want it exported in. ON1 also has layers that Lightroom doesn't.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

Raider Fan wrote:

Steve,

I am pissed off at Adobe too. I am looking at Luminar Netune but it will not be available in 1 Nov. I want to stick it to Adobe for leaving LR6 users in the position to either go subscription or go elsewhere. I am going elsewhere.

Good Luck

Tom

Do whatever you want, but it surely is no surprise that the non-subscription version went away. For the price of a couple of cups of coffee, even at McDonald's, you get both Lr and PS -- always the very latest versions -- for 10 bucks a month. That's a good deal, at least in my opinion. I use the software on a daily basis.

dhowland

jamesl wrote:

"ON1 Photo RAW 2018" is the program that uses the "versions", which is the same as a "Virtual copy" in Lightroom. You can create as many versions of a photo as you want and they will show up in browse. It is all non-destructible and only creates a an actual physical copy of a version when you export the version. When you export you have options for what file type you want and the color space you want it exported in. ON1 also has layers that Lightroom doesn't.

Thanks -- is ON1 the only other program that does so? Does any know if Capture One works that way? I can't tell from the descriptions of Capture One.

Photo One Loc: Clearwater Florida

I use ON1 for most everything. I love it. Today is the last day you can order it for $79.99. After today it will go back to over $100.00. This is the ON1 Photo Raw 2018. Good luck. The full version will be available at the end of October.

Kenny

coullone Loc: Paynesville, Victoria, Australia

Windoze a Freudian slip? No it's a fact of life!

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

brucewells wrote:

Steve, I'm curious what you mean by "what they are doing now". I've seen nothing but commitment to the product from Adobe, so I'm wondering what I've missed.

Thanks.

Bruce, I, like many others I'm sure, absolutely despise the concept of subscription based software. Adobe, however, is certainly not the only software company moving in this direction, and I'm afraid it's just something we are going to have to accept as it will probably become the norm for good software. I'm happy for you that you have experienced commitment from Adobe, but I have experienced quite the opposite in recent dealings with them. I'm sorry, but I have neither the time nor the desire to elaborate, suffice to say that they have recently been quite indifferent to my needs as a customer. In my last communication with them I let them know that I, reluctantly, would have pursue my software needs from another company. They of course were quite indifferent to that as well, after all who am I?, but, if enough people reach the point I have, it will have an effect.

brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky

Dabe wrote:

Bruce, I, like many others I'm sure, absolutely de... (show quote)

Your experiences are unfortunate. Adobe has long been the standard in graphic editing software, so for me, it was to select, and learn, software that would be available for the future. The method of payment for the software has never been an issue for me. With well over 10 million subscribers, the software should be around a long time, negating the need for me to restructure my workflow and learn new software.

Good luck in your efforts. I hope you find tools that work well for you.

Photo One Loc: Clearwater Florida

Adobe has been here a long time, and they will be here long after your gone!! If you don't like the way do business...........take another road!!!

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Photo One wrote:

Adobe has been here a long time, and they will be here long after your gone!! If you don't like the way do business...........take another road!!!

dhowland

brucewells wrote:

Your experiences are unfortunate. Adobe has long been the standard in graphic editing software, so for me, it was to select, and learn, software that would be available for the future. The method of payment for the software has never been an issue for me. With well over 10 million subscribers, the software should be around a long time, negating the need for me to restructure my workflow and learn new software.

Good luck in your efforts. I hope you find tools that work well for you.

It's no doubt true that Adobe will continue to have millions of subscribers and will likely be here a long time. That, however, doesn't mean that they will continue to set -- or even measure up to -- the standard required by serious photographers. The beauty of our capitalist system is that, time after time, when bloated success stories begin resting on their laurels, smart upstarts step up to fill the resulting voids. I would never be so complacent as to think "they've been the one and they're big, so they are the one for me."

brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky

dhowland wrote:

It's no doubt true that Adobe will continue to hav... (show quote)

You’re words ring true, and I will always have the choice to change my toolset, if the situation warrants. When I chose my tools several years ago, I felt Adobe’s tools were best. Nothing has happened to change my mind. In fact, the subscription dropped the price sufficiently to make me even more resolute that my choices were justified.

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

Photo One wrote:

Adobe has been here a long time, and they will be here long after your gone!! If you don't like the way do business...........take another road!!!

I don't know who you are addressing your comment to, but I'm well aware that Adobe has been here a long time. I've probably been using their software for as long as you have but the mindset that they will continue to thrive based upon what they used to be is quite a stretch.
Nobody needs your permission to "take another road!!!", you can also chose to bury your head in the sand!!!!!!