StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

...On1 or any other cataloging/editing program?

I preently use Lr 5 (I never subscribed to Adobe CC), as well as PSCS6, On1, Topaz and some other programs. I am perfectly happy with Lr 5, except that I cannot use it with newer cameras or lenses, which will pose a problem when I upgrade, or when I process photos of friends with newer equipment.

I am reluctant to subscribe to Lr Classic (which would be my Lr of choice) because I am not interested in a subscription program to catalog my photos, and I do not trust Adobe to maintain the program. Looking at what they are doing now, I am afraid the handwriting may be on the wall for the future of Lightroom.

I already own On1, (and will download the latest Beta version shortly), but cotinue to catalog my photos through Lr, and use On 1 as a plug in to Lr and PS. I am now thinking of moving to On1 as my primary cataloging softwware. A couple of years back I went through the changeover from Aperture to Lr, and I am not eager to repeat the process. However, I want a non subscription progam that will (hopefully) maintain that format for the foreseeable future. I am curious as to your thoughts.

Thanks.
Steve

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Steve, the work around to the newer cameras is to create a DNG file from the image file. Don't get rid of the RAW file from the camera, but just convert it. Adobe has the DNG conversion software available for free.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html
--Bob

whwiden

I am in the process of moving to Darktable. Open source for linux and mac. I believe a windows port is in the works.

If you run it in linux you can use a less powerful machine, I have found, because the operating system seems more efficient.

I initially tested it on an Apple but I recently bought an 11 inch lenovo 710 yoga for travel and installed linux, erasing Windows. On sale, it set me back $350.

I now have an economical travel solution I can stick in my domke f2, along with my camera gear. I have kept LR 5.7 on the Apple just in case, along with capture nx-D.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

You could have had Linux installed along with Windoze. They actually play nicely together. It becomes a dual boot machine.

You can also set up a virtual Windoze system inside Linux. That works reasonably well, too.
--Bob

saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee

This topic continues to come up on a weekly basis. I had been using CS5 for many years but I'm one guy who finally got tired of converting all my files to DNG and recently purchased the $10 creative cloud package. I spend a lot of unnecessary money. My Netflix subscription costs the same amount and I almost never use it. A combo meal at McDonalds costs me around $10 a pop. I pump $50 worth of gas each week into my 14 MPG SUV. My health insurance is a whopping $700/mo. and rising fast. I use photoshop every day and now have the chance to learn what Lightroom has to offer. I have spent well over $10,000 on my photo equipment and I'm sure many of you have as well. Ten dollars a month seems like a small investment if it will help be get the most out of my expensive equipment.

Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

Last time I looked, ON1 was a BROWSER, not a catalog type program for asset management like Lightroom. Has that changed? Is it no longer a file browser instead using a database of your images for lightning quick searches ala Lightroom?

Like listening to many stock market pundits, everyday brings doom and gloom on the horizon, but so far ....



BTW - I too started with Aperture instead of Lightroom, I have now been using Lightroom CC for over 4 years after Apple announced EOL for Aperture - no price increase and no complaints. With over 50,000 images in my catalog, I would miss instant access of non-database metadata searches.

brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky

Steve, I'm curious what you mean by "what they are doing now". I've seen nothing but commitment to the product from Adobe, so I'm wondering what I've missed.

Thanks.

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

Thank you Bob. This at least would solve the problem of importng files from a camera not currently recognized by my version of Lr.
Now forgive me, but I am not terribly compter literate. Presently, I do change all of my RAW files to DNG upon import into Lr 5. But with a new camera, I would have to convert them first, with the Adobe converter, save them to a file (let's say on my desk top), then import the DNG files to Lr 5. Correct?
Steve

Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room

ON1 Photo RAW 2018 has organizational capabilities. The beta is available for download now: http://www.on1.com. From their web page: "You get the best of both worlds. A lightning-fast photo browser for culling and organizing with the powerful features of a catalog system to stay organized."

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

FWIW - Just downloaded the 2018 beta and put it on my iMac. I do like to try to keep an eye on other tools while I am an Adobe subscriber.

So far yes, it does look good - reads and writes DNG files, as well as all the other popular raw files. Loads of presets for the 1 click crowd too. ( all of my images are either JPG, TIFF or DNG, DNG for the most part)

Am adding a set of folders to its cataloging system, it catalogs in the background so it does not slow you down or prevent you are editing other images while it churns thru your files.

It does seem a very fast file browser - I am anxious to see how the cataloging works and what benefits it holds over its folder browsing capabilities.

At this point for me, it may be an alternative should Lightroom Classic ever become too expensive monthly, or goes away all together.

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

I stand corrected. It is a browser, to the best of my understanding.

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

So now I am confused. Is the Beta version of ON 1 2018 a cataloging system as well as a browser??
Steve

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

So Fred, if I understand correctly, both you and Donald are saying that the Beta version of On 1 2018 offers a cataloging system?
If so, that definately makes this a possibe alternative to Lr for me.
Steve

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

Bruce, what I mean is that they have split Lr in two: Classic and CC. Both are subscription only, no stand alone product that you can own. And the CC version I believe does not accept plug ins, and is essentially a brand new product, geared, I think, toward the mobile user.
Steve