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burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Just Fred wrote:

Intel chips preventing dual-booting? Are you sure... (show quote)

I’ve used Parallels since 2008 to run Windows on a Mac. It’s pretty seamless and really convenient, provided you have lots of RAM, VRAM, and drive space.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

StevenG wrote:

...On1 or any other cataloging/editing program? <snip>
Thanks.
Steve

Not me.

whwiden

Just Fred wrote:

Intel chips preventing dual-booting? Are you sure... (show quote)

The problem was with certain models of Lenovo computers, as I understood it. See the below link and some of the commentary. I did not really care to have Windows, but I did want my computer to at least work with Linux, which I got running. I did try several methods to get a dual boot just to see if I could get it to work. I could not after a few attempts, so I was content to just run Linux.

https://liliputing.com/2016/11/lenovo-releases-bios-loading-linux-yoga-900-ideapad-710s-bios.html

whwiden

Just Fred wrote:

Intel chips preventing dual-booting? Are you sure... (show quote)

Virtual machines work but not very well for underpowered and inexpensive machines like I wanted to use for travel purposes. I have never dual booted a Mac.

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

Just Fred wrote:

If you rent your home, lease a car, use a cable service, have an Internet provider, are you not paying them a monthly fee? You don't own any of those goods or services, you are, in effect, subscribing to them.

The difference is that you can choose to discontinue your subscription to Adobe and still have all your photos. Discontinue paying for any of the others, and you lose them entirely.

I find your comparisons rather ludicrous. Rent for a place to live, utilities, these are all needed to live in today's society, yet depending on income one does have options. You can buy or lease a car. You can rent or buy a dwelling. But if I buy a tool, I do not expect that somewhere down the road the company that sold it to me will say I can only use it now for a monthly fee. Adobe has not given it's consumers a choice by saying you can only rent from us even if we have paid into their perpetual licencing updates for the past few years. I could never afford Photoshop so I went with Elements. Updates were my choice to make. All told in the 15 years I have been using Adobe products I have spent roughly $600. Had I been renting all that time the cost would have been about $1800. I understand the subscription model for the professional and that makes sense. But for many of us amateurs approach retirement and a fixed income every $10 counts. If Adobe was really giving us a choice why not do what the car dealers do, offer it for buying or leasing?

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

whwiden wrote:

Virtual machines work but not very well for underpowered and inexpensive machines like I wanted to use for travel purposes. I have never dual booted a Mac.

Using “Boot Camp” which comes with OS X, it was a simple task to set it up as a dual boot machine, OS X on one partition and Windows on the other, in fact Windows 7 ran better on an iMac then it did on a PC at the time

Oracle’s free Virtual Box software ran Vista on an iMac fine, where on a PC it crawled and was a pain to use

I used to use the free Virtual Box software to run many multiple OS’s on my IMac, but got bored with how easy it was and no longer even have a need, at one point I was able to install and run a VM of MSDOS 6.2 - now that was fun!

blackest Loc: Ireland

Just Fred wrote:

Intel chips preventing dual-booting? Are you sure... (show quote)

I'm also in the computer field and you haven't heard of secure boot and having to have a signed boot loader

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2901262/microsoft-tightens-windows-10s-secure-boot-screws-where-does-that-leave-linux.html

blackest Loc: Ireland

burkphoto wrote:

I’ve used Parallels since 2008 to run Windows on a Mac. It’s pretty seamless and really convenient, provided you have lots of RAM, VRAM, and drive space.

It mostly works but you are limited in the Ram you can give a virtual machine usually half of what you have. Performance wise you usually take a hit of around 10 or 20 percent. Graphics can be hit and miss. Running Sierra or high Sierra in a Vm on parallels Google chrome has problems displaying content as it turns on hardware acceleration by default. You can disable this in settings if you can reach the advanced button and uncheck the option.
Very hard to do if the button isn't rendered.

Ibooks author runs but unfortunately you can't see the content!

Most VM's do not allow sharing of the PCI bus, parallels for Windows does allow 1 slot to be passed to the VM. It got the scsi card i was using running under Windows 2000 and then my Nikon Ls1000 scanner.

VM's are pretty handy but sometimes a dual boot will give much better performance at the cost of having to reboot ...

Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room

blackest wrote:

I'm also in the computer field and you haven't heard of secure boot and having to have a signed boot loader

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2901262/microsoft-tightens-windows-10s-secure-boot-screws-where-does-that-leave-linux.html

That's not Intel limiting dual booting.

blackest Loc: Ireland

Just Fred wrote:

That's not Intel limiting dual booting.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security/practical-uefi-secure-boot-part-1-video.html looks like intel to me

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

whwiden wrote:

Virtual machines work but not very well for underpowered and inexpensive machines like I wanted to use for travel purposes. I have never dual booted a Mac.

Many colleges and universities, IBM, GE, and others use dual-boot Macs OR Macs with virtual machines.

The latest versions of virtualization software are very fast and seamless. With four cores, 16 GB RAM, 1TB drive, and 500 MB VRAM on a graphics card, you can run several Mac apps and several Windows apps simultaneously, and switch back and forth with just a keystroke. Sharing the network, drive space, files, and peripherals is built-in and easy to set up.

Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room

blackest wrote:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security/practical-uefi-secure-boot-part-1-video.html looks like intel to me

I'm not going to get into a p*ssing contest. You can state Intel is handicapping chips, and I'm happy using the latest Intel chip with dual-boot capability.

Evon

Dngallagher wrote:

Of course you do realize that it is 10.00 for Lightroom AND Photoshop AND Bridge AND ACR as a package right?

Not 10.00 for each.

And of course by buying the stand alone you are only getting a license to use the software, you do not own the software and the license can be revoked at anytime

Did not know that on the bundle for $10, good point. Yes, times have changed no ownership anymore.

Raider Fan Loc: Lake County, IL.

Steve,

I am pissed off at Adobe too. I am looking at Luminar Netune but it will not be available in 1 Nov. I want to stick it to Adobe for leaving LR6 users in the position to either go subscription or go elsewhere. I am going elsewhere.

Good Luck

Tom

StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY

Raider Fan wrote:

Steve,

I am pissed off at Adobe too. I am looking at Luminar Netune but it will not be available in 1 Nov. I want to stick it to Adobe for leaving LR6 users in the position to either go subscription or go elsewhere. I am going elsewhere.

Good Luck

Tom

Tom, I have not yet decided what I will do.
After reading all of the great comments, there is a lot to think about.
Best of luck to you as well
Steve