PS Elements vs PS CC
Oct 22, 2017 21:04:55 #
TriX wrote:
Granted that both use ACR for the initial conversion, but after that point, which tools in PSE and PS require 8bits - is there a difference?
I just tried and everything under Enhance and Draw came up with the message:
Oct 22, 2017 22:26:39 #
Bill_de wrote:
I just tried and everything under Enhance and Draw came up with the message:
Thats how they FORCE you to the online version. Adobe could make Elements 16 bit but they don't want to. If they did, elements would be almost as good as the online version. Adobe is going to figure out ways for you to pay them every month.
Oct 23, 2017 05:57:06 #
TriX wrote:
One key difference is that PSE is 8 bits while PS cc is a 16 bit ap. If it weren’t for that, PSE would be adequate for most of what I need to do, but I just can’t see capturing a raw image in 12 or 14 bit and then decreasing to 8 bits for editing.
Actually, Ps can be a 32-bit App. I've used Ps CS6 in that mode for HDR or Panoramas. But if you don't have a lot of RAM (16 - 32 GB) it will then smoke your computer at 32-bits and 1-2 GB PSD or PSB files! I once tried a 32-bit Pano on my then 4 GB LapTop, it took an entire half hour of actual computer run time to stitch it and then Windows / Photoshop would not let me save the file. I was barely able to convert it to a JPG for saving. The image was mediocre so I deleted the entire mess. My DeskTop Tower today is a 4 Core, 8 Thread i7 Windows 10 64-bit, 3.4GHz, 32GB Dell machine, and it can handle Ps in 32-bit mode fine.
I do a lot of my PP with ACR but I find I do use Ps a bit more than the PSE level, such as Stacks, Panos, HDR, and pixel editing.
Oct 23, 2017 06:35:58 #
marvflys wrote:
I am an amateur photographer with limited experience in Photoshop. I have had Photoshop 4.0 many years ago but very limited knowledge on how to actually use it. I currently have LightRoom 6 and PS Elements 9 and considering upgrading to Elements 15 or PS CC. I am learning a lot know but not sure my monthly usage of the software would justify a monthly subscription vs a one time purchase. Any advice on which to purchase (PS Elements 15 of PS CC subscription) would be appreciated.
Neither. Download a trial copy of Affinity Photo. https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ When you pay $50 for it, you will have 99.9% of everything in PS, and 99.999% of everything you will ever want. But it will do many things better than PS. And the learning curve is not too steep.
Oct 23, 2017 07:21:42 #
marvflys wrote:
I am an amateur photographer with limited experience in Photoshop.
Considering your opening sentence, I think PSE 15 would be a good choice, compared with paying $120 every year. Or, go for Affinity, and the post above this suggests.
Oct 23, 2017 07:38:21 #
The only thing I have to add is if you upgrade your PSE by 18, it is the latest and just came out early October.
Oct 23, 2017 09:18:20 #
The most recent new edition of Photoshop Elements is now entitled Photoshop Elements 2018.
Old PSE versions vs new PSE 2018 features and this latest version 2018 now available for ($79.95)
I can't figure how to add a live link to uglyhedgehog site... Here's the link/URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html
Old PSE versions vs new PSE 2018 features and this latest version 2018 now available for ($79.95)
I can't figure how to add a live link to uglyhedgehog site... Here's the link/URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html
Oct 23, 2017 09:32:42 #
I used the full PhotoShop for many years . I now use photoshop elements and it does everything I need. The last years model 14 is cheaper and latest is not needed.
Oct 23, 2017 09:35:57 #
CharlieMac wrote:
The most recent new edition of Photoshop Elements is now entitled Photoshop Elements 2018.
Old PSE versions vs new PSE 2018 features and this latest version 2018 now available for ($79.95)
I can't figure how to add a live link to uglyhedgehog site... Here's the link/URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html
Old PSE versions vs new PSE 2018 features and this latest version 2018 now available for ($79.95)
I can't figure how to add a live link to uglyhedgehog site... Here's the link/URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html
At the link you provided $79.99 is the upgrade price. Full is $99.99.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:38:27 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
James56 wrote:
Thats how they FORCE you to the online version. Adobe could make Elements 16 bit but they don't want to. If they did, elements would be almost as good as the online version. Adobe is going to figure out ways for you to pay them every month.
Elements has been 8 bit since it's inception, back when there was no 'online' anything.
Oct 23, 2017 10:05:37 #
When somebody asks which camera to buy, we always see "It's not the camera, it's the person using it that makes the difference".
To a very large extent that is probably true with software. I would guess that there are people who can get better results from Gimp than many users ever come close to with PhotoShop CC, onOne, or any other package. And, I know I'm not alone in wanting to spend more time with the camera in my hands than sitting at a keyboard. Years ago it was different for me. I went to seminars, read books, spent hours getting exactly what I wanted on the screen. One day I decided to stop trying to be a graphic artist and go back to being a photographer. PhotoShop used to be referred to as ' The Digital Darkroom', because it allowed you to finish your digital images emulating what we did in the darkroom. It has since moved way beyond that, which is fantastic. It just went beyond what I really wanted to do, and dragged me along with it. It took the rental plan to make me rethink my priorities, so even for me it's a good thing. It woke me up.
Bottom line, buy the software that lets you do what you want to do and maybe a little more.
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To a very large extent that is probably true with software. I would guess that there are people who can get better results from Gimp than many users ever come close to with PhotoShop CC, onOne, or any other package. And, I know I'm not alone in wanting to spend more time with the camera in my hands than sitting at a keyboard. Years ago it was different for me. I went to seminars, read books, spent hours getting exactly what I wanted on the screen. One day I decided to stop trying to be a graphic artist and go back to being a photographer. PhotoShop used to be referred to as ' The Digital Darkroom', because it allowed you to finish your digital images emulating what we did in the darkroom. It has since moved way beyond that, which is fantastic. It just went beyond what I really wanted to do, and dragged me along with it. It took the rental plan to make me rethink my priorities, so even for me it's a good thing. It woke me up.
Bottom line, buy the software that lets you do what you want to do and maybe a little more.
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Oct 23, 2017 10:24:29 #
marvflys wrote:
I am an amateur photographer with limited experience in Photoshop. I have had Photoshop 4.0 many years ago but very limited knowledge on how to actually use it. I currently have LightRoom 6 and PS Elements 9 and considering upgrading to Elements 15 or PS CC. I am learning a lot know but not sure my monthly usage of the software would justify a monthly subscription vs a one time purchase. Any advice on which to purchase (PS Elements 15 of PS CC subscription) would be appreciated.
Also, be aware the latest version of Elements is PSE 2018. It is an incremental improvement over PSE 15. Additionally, its user interface is different and more user friendly than your PSE 9. Lots of improvements and new features added since then. The link below has some useful information on the PSE 2018 Photo Editor module, with a link back to improvements to the Organizer of PSE 2018.
https://don26812.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/adobe-photoshop-elements-2018-photo-editor/
Oct 23, 2017 10:30:55 #
Lightroom is the premier organizer. I certainly wouldn't buy any version of PSE for that feature given you own LR ...
Oct 23, 2017 10:34:16 #
Oct 23, 2017 10:34:48 #
don26812 wrote:
Also, be aware the latest version of Elements is PSE 2018. It is an incremental improvement over PSE 15. Additionally, its user interface is different and more user friendly than your PSE 9. Lots of improvements and new features added since then. The link below has some useful information on the PSE 2018 Photo Editor module, with a link back to improvements to the Organizer of PSE 2018.
https://don26812.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/adobe-photoshop-elements-2018-photo-editor/
https://don26812.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/adobe-photoshop-elements-2018-photo-editor/
Thanks Don.
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