PS Elements vs PS CC
Oct 22, 2017 16:35:43 #
I am an amateur photographer with limited experience in Photoshop. I have had Photoshop 4.0 many years ago but very limited knowledge on how to actually use it. I currently have LightRoom 6 and PS Elements 9 and considering upgrading to Elements 15 or PS CC. I am learning a lot know but not sure my monthly usage of the software would justify a monthly subscription vs a one time purchase. Any advice on which to purchase (PS Elements 15 of PS CC subscription) would be appreciated.
Oct 22, 2017 16:39:11 #
PSCC subscription = constant update + LR
PSE = set price, limited features, no LR but a weak organizer you may need to upgrade but not necessary if you are happy with it so...
Learning is basically the same, easy or hard, depending on what your post processing needs are.
Do you want to rent or do you want to own?
It really comes down to that simplistic question.
PSE = set price, limited features, no LR but a weak organizer you may need to upgrade but not necessary if you are happy with it so...
Learning is basically the same, easy or hard, depending on what your post processing needs are.
Do you want to rent or do you want to own?
It really comes down to that simplistic question.
Oct 22, 2017 16:55:10 #
I have been using CS5 since it was released. I never used it to its full potential. So I recently bought PS Elements 15 and Premiere. I have used Elements exclusively for a couple of weeks with the same results I was getting. The biggest issue I have with it is that some setting, like custom crop size, are not sticky. I'm not sure about older versions, but the organizer in v.15 is pretty impressive.
Oct 22, 2017 17:23:15 #
It appears there is some dissent as to what Adobe is doing RE LR and PS on subscription. Either wait a while and see what happens or use your time to discover/try alternatives. There are a lot of alternatives out there. From a learning point of view....if you haven't invested much time with Adobe....you may have little to lose.
Have fun
Have fun
Oct 22, 2017 19:34:53 #
One key difference is that PSE is 8 bits while PS cc is a 16 bit ap. If it weren’t for that, PSE would be adequate for most of what I need to do, but I just can’t see capturing a raw image in 12 or 14 bit and then decreasing to 8 bits for editing.
Oct 22, 2017 19:36:16 #
TriX wrote:
One key difference is that PSE is 8 bits while PS cc is a 16 bit ap. If it weren’t for that, PSE would be adequate for most of what I need to do, but I just can’t see capturing a raw image in 12 or 14 bit and then decreasing to 8 bits for editing.
The newest version opens and edit in 16 bit...
Oct 22, 2017 19:40:14 #
Rongnongno wrote:
The newest version opens and edit in 16 bit...
Interesting. Does that include all functions? As I recall, the previous version opened in 16, but required reducing to 8 bits for certain operations -is that still the case?
Oct 22, 2017 19:41:57 #
Thanks for the info. I was leaning toward cc but I think I can do anything I need to do with elements. I'll wait a little long to decide.
Oct 22, 2017 19:43:42 #
TriX wrote:
Interesting. Does that include all functions? As I recall, the previous version opened in 16, but required reducing to 8 bits for certain operations -is that still the case?
No, same as PS CC that balks when some filters or features are used in 16 bits.
Oct 22, 2017 19:46:03 #
marvflys wrote:
Thanks for the info. I was leaning toward cc but I think I can do anything I need to do with elements. I'll wait a little long to decide.
Note that PSE allows the use of ACR, a 16 bit editor all by itself.
Now if you do not shoot raw, this information on 8/16 bit is useless. You will be in 8 bits by default.
Oct 22, 2017 20:24:09 #
marvflys wrote:
Thanks for the info. I was leaning toward cc but I think I can do anything I need to do with elements. I'll wait a little long to decide.
This is the best approach, specifically, don't invest more until you need to. Most people complete 99.9% of their work in LR alone. You should focus on developing both your photography skills and LR editing skills. Even if shooting in RAW, you should shoot with an approach that avoids / minimizes the need for complex edits (i.e., layers).
What is it that you're using PSE for now? Personally, I've been adding text lately to images, a PSE task for sure. But, I'll throw an image away before spending time in PSE on some complex cloning effort to remove / replace something that can't be removed by LR's simple to use clone and healing brushes. I'll adjust my perspective while shooting to assure nothing unwanted is in the frame when captured to assure I don't generate unneeded effort in processing.
Oct 22, 2017 20:30:09 #
Rongnongno wrote:
No, same as PS CC that balks when some filters or features are used in 16 bits.
As late as version 15 of Elements, 16 bit editing is very limited once you are out of ACR and in the Elements work space.
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Oct 22, 2017 20:56:09 #
That's kind of my concern. rent or own. I prefer owning something. I already own LR 6.
Thanks
Thanks
Oct 22, 2017 20:57:04 #
Rongnongno wrote:
No, same as PS CC that balks when some filters or features are used in 16 bits.
Granted that both use ACR for the initial conversion, but after that point, which tools in PSE and PS require 8bits - is there a difference?
Oct 22, 2017 21:03:47 #
Great point. I don't think I will do major editing in PS. Leaning more toward doing exactly what you recommended concentrating on LR with only occasional use of PSE. It's difficult to break my normal pattern of buying way more than I actually use/need.
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