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Oct 9, 2017 10:05:29   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
steve DeMott wrote:
Thanks for your help. I tried to look up what a damaged channel was and it would have taken me days to read and understand it all.
I did notice that the channels in the original were compressed to the dark side. Your image all the channels were spread out and more uniform looking. With that information I was able to almost replicate what you did and tweaked the channels with little less green. So here's my 2nd attempt.
Never would have thought that we would have been able to produce this good of an image from a forty year old washed out image.

Many thanks
Thanks for your help. I tried to look up what a da... (show quote)

Looks good! A friend of mine gave me an old picture of his mother as a young girl that was faded. I was able to bring the details up and make a version that he liked a lot. I have a lot of old film negatives starting in the 60's and 70's, and some are in better condition than others. Scanned them into my computer so I can try to edit and reclaim the best ones. Whether it was how they were stored or the quality of the materials, I do not know, but some of them have turned orange! It is a project for a long winter...

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Oct 9, 2017 10:54:47   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Looks good! A friend of mine gave me an old picture of his mother as a young girl that was faded. I was able to bring the details up and make a version that he liked a lot. I have a lot of old film negatives starting in the 60's and 70's, and some are in better condition than others. Scanned them into my computer so I can try to edit and reclaim the best ones. Whether it was how they were stored or the quality of the materials, I do not know, but some of them have turned orange! It is a project for a long winter...
Looks good! A friend of mine gave me an old pictu... (show quote)


I found that using your camera to copy the photos works better then a scanner.
1. It takes less time once your setup
2. the dpi will be better
3. You'll have a raw image to work with instead of a jpg or tiff file.

Thanks for your input


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Oct 9, 2017 10:54:56   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
A single click on Auto Color in Photoshop rendered this.


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Oct 9, 2017 11:06:09   #
alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...
 
steve DeMott wrote:
... Can this be fixed fairly easily with a preset and a little tweaking that will give acceptable results or am I SOL?

Color balance can be tricky ...

Whether-or-not the attached are better-or-acceptable, they were achieved with the SINGLE PRESET using IRFANVIEW (a freeware program) ...

Of course, they can be tweaked further as one sees fit.







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Oct 9, 2017 11:27:09   #
alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...
 
BTW. Image with a simple rotation & crop using IRFANVIEW ...



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Oct 9, 2017 12:34:35   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
JCam wrote:
Steve, I think you have done a darn good job with the print you posted! Yes, in the 70's it was probably a color negative (Kodacolor film?) as opposed to the positive color film we had in later years. I suspect trying to colorize the prints would be a major time consuming task, and you still might not be satisfied with the results; it may be better to just preserve the reconditioning you have done than to get frustrated with more efforts


I don't understand what you mean by "in the 70's it was probably a color negative (Kodacolor film?) as opposed to the positive color film we had in later years." In the 70's we had both color negative and color positive (transparency). In fact, for 35mm prior to that era we had ONLY positive. Kodacolor was medium format and up until sometime in the 60s, when it was introduced also in 35mm. Before that, 35mm color meant Kodachrome, the upstart "new" Ektachrome, or the insipid and unsaturated (and always color shifted) Anscochrome.

BTW speaking of Ektachrome, it has been revived and will be test marketed by the end of this year on on sale in 35mm (and I think Super 8) in 2018.
There WAS some talk about reincarnating Kodachrome also, but that's still rumor.

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Oct 9, 2017 14:56:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
steve DeMott wrote:
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turned orange over time. I can only assume that the company I used to developed the prints used exhausted chemicals or the wrong chemicals.
I have been digitizing my old photos using my camera to copy the photos.
I have tried to use LM to bring back some of the color with little results.
Can this be fixed fairly easily with a preset and a little tweaking that will give acceptable results or am I SOL?

In case you're wondering that's my wife in the days, as our grandkids say, when we were skinny and I had hair.

Thanks in advance for any and all inputs
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If you aquire a scanner in the future the Epson V850 will do a great job automatically fixing faded colors as you scan. It will also remove minor flaws and any dust. The Epson scanners are pretty incredible.

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Oct 9, 2017 17:34:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
steve DeMott wrote:
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turned orange over time. I can only assume that the company I used to developed the prints used exhausted chemicals or the wrong chemicals.
I have been digitizing my old photos using my camera to copy the photos.
I have tried to use LM to bring back some of the color with little results.
Can this be fixed fairly easily with a preset and a little tweaking that will give acceptable results or am I SOL?

In case you're wondering that's my wife in the days, as our grandkids say, when we were skinny and I had hair.

Thanks in advance for any and all inputs
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turn... (show quote)


Conventional 'C' prints (silver-halide-based, with dyes coupled into the emulsion and the silver washed out) fade quickly. The yellow, magenta, and cyan dye layers fade at different rates. But when the paper base itself darkens, that is a sign that residual chemicals remained in the paper after processing. That is usually a sign of incomplete fixing, incomplete bleaching, incomplete washing, or failure to use the proper final stabilizer solution (depending on the vintage of the process!).

The quickest way to restore as much color balance as you can achieve is to use a flatbed scanner with Digital ICE with ROC technology. ICE removes spots from surface dust, grit, grime. ROC stands for Restore Original Color, which Epson calls One Touch Color Restoration. That's what it ATTEMPTS to do, with varying results, depending on how much fading has occurred. I find it gets close, and I can tweak a lot easier from there, in Photoshop.

If you just have digital camera images, you can adjust them in Lightroom, Photoshop, or Affinity Photo (etc.) by several different means. Tools such as Auto Color, click balance eyedroppers, color temperature sliders, highlights, whites, shadows, blacks, etc. can help restore a more pleasing look.

I like to copy slides, prints, and negatives with my camera. I record raw images, so I have 16-bit files to play with, and Adobe Camera Raw (Photoshop ACR) or the Lightroom Develop Module (ACR with a better interface) to control everything. I can photograph color negatives, drag the curves backwards (Invert command in photoshop), and adjust each color separately to get the color right. I can photograph black-and-white negatives and invert the image. I can easily pull shadow details from prints that you would not know are there.

When copying color images, adjusting the curves for red, green, and blue channels separately gives you pretty good control over the look of the image.

I've found I can restore pleasing looks to most images, but sometimes, black-and-white conversion is the best option.

Here are a few restorations photographed from film images, which are generally harder to restore if color has faded:

Kodacolor 126 negative from 1967
Kodacolor 126 negative from 1967...
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Kodachrome slide, from 1983
Kodachrome slide, from 1983...
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Anscochrome slide, from early 1950s
Anscochrome slide, from early 1950s...
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Kodak Tri-X negative, 1971 (pushed to E.I. 1250)
Kodak Tri-X negative, 1971 (pushed to E.I. 1250)...
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Oct 9, 2017 18:45:38   #
dannac Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
 
burkphoto wrote:
Here are a few restorations photographed from film images, which are generally harder to restore if color has faded:


#3, early 1950's ...

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Oct 9, 2017 19:41:11   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
steve DeMott wrote:
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turned orange over time. I can only assume that the company I used to developed the prints used exhausted chemicals or the wrong chemicals.
I have been digitizing my old photos using my camera to copy the photos.
I have tried to use LM to bring back some of the color with little results.
Can this be fixed fairly easily with a preset and a little tweaking that will give acceptable results or am I SOL?

In case you're wondering that's my wife in the days, as our grandkids say, when we were skinny and I had hair.

Thanks in advance for any and all inputs
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turn... (show quote)


Hi, There is not much info to work with - but here is my try:


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Oct 9, 2017 20:24:49   #
salewis
 
When I was a teen-ager in the 1950's, the advice I received was to shoot in black and white because color photos would not last. People knew these photos would have a short life.

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Oct 9, 2017 20:40:21   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
steve DeMott wrote:
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turned orange over time. I can only assume that the company I used to developed the prints used exhausted chemicals or the wrong chemicals.
I have been digitizing my old photos using my camera to copy the photos.
I have tried to use LM to bring back some of the color with little results.
Can this be fixed fairly easily with a preset and a little tweaking that will give acceptable results or am I SOL?

In case you're wondering that's my wife in the days, as our grandkids say, when we were skinny and I had hair.

Thanks in advance for any and all inputs
I have some old photos from the 70's that has turn... (show quote)


Hi,

As it is your wife, I decided to have another try.


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Oct 9, 2017 21:39:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dannac wrote:
#3, early 1950's ...


That’s my sister and the dog that eventually bit my best friend’s ear off. I was born several years later. My uncle took that with an Argus C44 that I inherited.

BTW that’s a vertical cropped from a horizontal.

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Oct 9, 2017 21:55:20   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
burkphoto wrote:
That’s my sister and the dog that eventually bit my best friend’s ear off. I was born several years later. My uncle took that with an Argus C44 that I inherited.

BTW that’s a vertical cropped from a horizontal.


My apologies. I took the text above the photo to apply to it.



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Oct 10, 2017 17:34:46   #
One Jughead Loc: Greene County, OH
 
Just a couple of minutes using Photo Scape and I got this.


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