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Would you rather have a camera capable of 14fps, or a camera with 51mp? ... Why?
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Oct 6, 2017 12:13:54   #
jmvaugh Loc: Albuquerque
 
I dont photograph sports and rarely try to capture BIF, so I don’t need 14 fps....but after reading the articles about pixel size and low light performance, I’m not sure I’d really want 51 mp either. So if the 14 fps had great low light capabilities, I’d go for it.

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Oct 6, 2017 12:24:15   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
Good morning I don't know why so quick to start they said they wanted to get me up and try to walk a bit and put some weight on my leg, just finished similar workout this morning this time they had a guy standing beside me for support they even had me do a couple steps on a portable stool, it hurt a lot but I was able to walk a short distance down the hall with a cane and the help of the orderly, the steps did not work well yet, I asked that question of the nurse and the fellow and they said it is important to get my leg muscle strength back as soon as possible otherwise I would need to be in a extended care place instead of going home to recuperate, they have already had the therapist in with me setting up next couple weeks therapy. Heck even back in 2007 when the first replacement was done they had me up out of bed the next day but they had a couple young girls come in and try to lift me out of the bed into a wheelchair and they could not hold me very well and dropped me into the chair where I was nailed with a massive amount of pain a couple of hours later my stomach had a rupture and caused gas to get into my blood it almost killed me I was med flighted to UOP in San Francisco from Sonora. Funny no staples they actually put stitches in and again yesterday when they came apart. I've never had stitches that delayed therapy each surgery they had me up and working at getting stronger maybe if it has to do with stitches elsewhere and from some organ surgery they keep you down longer like they did when my stomach had that happen. I am glad they are trying to get me up and out of here I get so bored and all these blood draws suck are they really necessary danged vampires.
boberic wrote:
I have been a surgical patient (hips, knees) that required physical therapy post surgically. But in each case the stitches were removed (or absorbed), and the wounds healed before the physical therapy began. It only takes about 10 days for the soft tissue to heal. Even if you had a staple closure, the like to remove them in about 10 days to 2 weeks. So, I would ask, why was the PT started so soon, before the wound was properly healed?----Best of luck, and I hope your recovery goes well.

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Oct 6, 2017 12:31:52   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
rehess wrote:
Exactly how many MP provided by that camera’s sensor???


80mp raw files for static objects(hi res mode). 60fps (pro capture) raw files, full resolution (20mp)

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Oct 6, 2017 12:37:03   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
terry44 wrote:
Good morning I don't know why so quick to start they said they wanted to get me up and try to walk a bit and put some weight on my leg, just finished similar workout this morning this time they had a guy standing beside me for support they even had me do a couple steps on a portable stool, it hurt a lot but I was able to walk a short distance down the hall with a cane and the help of the orderly, the steps did not work well yet, I asked that question of the nurse and the fellow and they said it is important to get my leg muscle strength back as soon as possible otherwise I would need to be in a extended care place instead of going home to recuperate, they have already had the therapist in with me setting up next couple weeks therapy. Heck even back in 2007 when the first replacement was done they had me up out of bed the next day but they had a couple young girls come in and try to lift me out of the bed into a wheelchair and they could not hold me very well and dropped me into the chair where I was nailed with a massive amount of pain a couple of hours later my stomach had a rupture and caused gas to get into my blood it almost killed me I was med flighted to UOP in San Francisco from Sonora. Funny no staples they actually put stitches in and again yesterday when they came apart. I've never had stitches that delayed therapy each surgery they had me up and working at getting stronger maybe if it has to do with stitches elsewhere and from some organ surgery they keep you down longer like they did when my stomach had that happen. I am glad they are trying to get me up and out of here I get so bored and all these blood draws suck are they really necessary danged vampires.
Good morning I don't know why so quick to start th... (show quote)


Terry ... did you sue the hospital, after that happened, in 2007?

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Oct 6, 2017 12:39:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
jmvaugh wrote:
I dont photograph sports and rarely try to capture BIF, so I don’t need 14 fps....but after reading the articles about pixel size and low light performance, I’m not sure I’d really want 51 mp either. So if the 14 fps had great low light capabilities, I’d go for it.


That's one advantage of the faster frame rate, JM ... seems to go hand-in-hand with high ISO expansion ....

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Oct 6, 2017 12:41:09   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
tdekany wrote:
80mp raw files for static objects(hi res mode). 60fps (pro capture) raw files, full resolution (20mp)

So this is via pixel shift??

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Oct 6, 2017 12:45:32   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
I don't really don't understand the need for one of these Cameras - 14fps - & - Almost own the other - 51mp - with the Canon 5DS - The detail is incredible -- Did use the 5DS at an Air Show & reduced the frame rate down from 5fps to 3fps

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Oct 6, 2017 12:46:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
rehess wrote:
So this is via pixel shift??


Like what Pentax does but it is a better implementation. The hi res mode.

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Oct 6, 2017 13:00:18   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
rmalarz wrote:
Not using the spray and pray approach to photography, I'd take the 51mp, as long as it is FX.
--Bob


Thank God, finally something that Bob and I agree on!!! LoL
AND, 5fps will capture 90% of sports and birds.
AND 90% of photographers don't need that other 10%, they only think they do!!!
SS

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Oct 6, 2017 13:04:38   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
No they of course never admitted that the girls dropping me or the use of dilaudid as a pain management treatment (it made me sick right away something like the fentanyl did to me yesterday) was why it happened, they called it Pneumatosis intestinalis with possible Barrett's esophagus (funnyI am reading this on my paperwork here in the room under precautions), guess its fairly rare and most of the folks this happened to either died or have a colostomy bag that's permanant, guess I am lucky and happy they caught it quickly, suing just increases the medical costs for all though would have did so if hardware was left in me.
ChrisT wrote:
Terry ... did you sue the hospital, after that happened, in 2007?

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Oct 6, 2017 13:22:53   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
terry44 wrote:
No they of course never admitted that the girls dropping me or the use of dilaudid as a pain management treatment (it made me sick right away something like the fentanyl did to me yesterday) was why it happened, they called it Pneumatosis intestinalis with possible Barrett's esophagus (funnyI am reading this on my paperwork here in the room under precautions), guess its fairly rare and most of the folks this happened to either died or have a colostomy bag that's permanant, guess I am lucky and happy they caught it quickly, suing just increases the medical costs for all though would have did so if hardware was left in me.
No they of course never admitted that the girls dr... (show quote)


So, you, at least - escaped THAT particular horror, then ... (colostomy bag) ... so glad you did, Terry ....

Who needs that?




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Oct 6, 2017 13:26:13   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ChrisT wrote:
So, you, at least - escaped THAT particular horror, then ... (colostomy bag) ... so glad you did, Terry ....

Who needs that?





They get you moving quickly after operations, so you don't get bed sores, or muscle cramps, from being still so long ....

The trick to fast recovery - is getting the body moving, again - as quickly as feasible ....


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Oct 6, 2017 13:33:24   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
ChrisT wrote:
Each new camera design offers higher ISO performance than the last, RE ... for instance, the D5 comes with a stat level of 102,400 ... and expands to an incredible 3,280,000 !!!! ... but how much of that is REALLY usable?

I suspect part of the reason for the ever-higher numbers, is marketing ...


I share your suspicion but I must say Nikon has been quite consistent in the noise level at their max ISO claim.

Since I must now answer your question (and neither is not allowed) I will pick 14 because 51M pixels must be way past the point of diminished return.

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Oct 6, 2017 13:50:58   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
I share your suspicion but I must say Nikon has been quite consistent in the noise level at their max ISO claim.

Since I must now answer your question (and neither is not allowed) I will pick 14 because 51M pixels must be way past the point of diminished return.


Exactly, Jack ... since even the very best lenses top out resolving power at around 32MP ... the rest (to 52) is a total waste!!!

Although, RE - says that point is attained at 54MP ....

Based on that, we still have room to grow ...

But the tradeoff, picking the faster frame rate ... is the res drops down to 20MP .... so - you can't win!


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Oct 6, 2017 13:59:53   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
ChrisT wrote:
And no fair - writing - BOTH ... you HAVE to choose ....

Very strange question, comparing them, that don't have anything to do with each other!

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