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Sep 24, 2017 17:43:41   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Cookie223 wrote:
The TC is Canon's 1.4 III. This was the first time I used it, but I've had this problem before. The lens is the 1:2.8 L IS USM. I do have the Canon software which I use to crop some pictures and make minor adjustments. The firmware on the camera is the latest, and sometimes it does take nice pictures. I'm including a picture I took at the zoo a couple of weeks ago which I think was pretty good especially when it was through glass.
Based on what you and TriX are telling me, my settings are all over the board. I'm not too far from a Canon facility in Jamesburg NJ and may just drop it there for a tune up. At least I'll know for sure that it's me and not my equipment. I wish you said Harrisburg Pa. I'd be there real quick, pay you for your time, and add a dinner in too!
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Not downloaded yet, these zoo ones look pretty good to me...
I am not sure how well the 1.4x TC III works with the VersionI of the 70-200. It was designed to work with later lenses I believe. I have the 70-200 2.8 IS II. I would try taking some photos with the TC out of the equation and just using the 70-200. Is the IS turned off? If you have IS on and are using higher shutter speeds I believe this could cause problems perhaps. I don't use IS for sports shooting...that would be my last resort to slow down my shutter speed very slow...

We have a place near Sharon, Pa but that is a long drive from NJ too...on the PA Ohio line... I would help you out if you were closer...bummer... Well, we can work on it this way as long as you want and think we are getting closer to an answer.

Best,
Todd

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Sep 24, 2017 17:45:23   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Cookie,

To me when zoomed in in Lightroom the 1st shot of the second group is still soft in focus, but it could be related to the TC being in play. I have the 2.0x TC III that I use with my 70-200 2.8 II. The Gen III TCs are the best Canon makes. I think the second shot in the second group is pretty sharp with the 24-105 and no TC. I attached a version I did a couple weeks to in Lightroom for you to compare. Which version of the 70-200 do you have? Do you use back button focus or focus with the shutter button? Back button focus would be the best in my opinion. Do you have your shooting parameters displayed not the rear LCD screen? It is a menu setting to do that... I find that handy vs looking in the viewfinder or at the top LCD screen... especially if shooting with a tripod or monopod...

Best,
Todd
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On my old T-5i while holding the shutter button half way I was able to see the focus change, and all the focus points. On this camera, I know it has about 65 points, but all I see is a box in the middle of my view finder. .
I never used the LCD, it's usually too sunny, nor the top display, I always look through view finder. Now I'm wondering if my eyes are part of the problem. All my pictures look crystal clear through the finder, but they sure as heck don't come out that way. I only have the Canon TC

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Sep 24, 2017 17:49:51   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
This is the first time I used the TC.

I can't thank you and TriX enough for trying to help me out. My granddaughter has another game in Seton Hall next week. I'll be starting from scratch by removing all the custom settings, and reading up much deeper on my camera. I'll let you folks know how that went.

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Sep 24, 2017 18:46:53   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Perhaps think about just resetting the camera to factory defaults and trying some test shots with a magazine page and your lenses without any TC in the loop. Let me know if you have any other questions. I don't have a 7DII but my Canon camera has a similar focus system.

Best,
Todd

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Sep 24, 2017 19:25:35   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks Todd.
I already cleared the settings I put in the custom selections. I noticed an option on clearing the factory settings but not to reset them. I'll figure it out and keep you posted.

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Sep 24, 2017 19:40:36   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Cookie223 wrote:
Thanks Todd.
I already cleared the settings I put in the custom selections. I noticed an option on clearing the factory settings but not to reset them. I'll figure it out and keep you posted.



Here is a sample from the DOF calculator app that I have. I used settings that can work for your lenses. Generally with all things being equal the closer you are to the subject and the longer the focal length the lens is the shallower the DOF. A 300mm lens at 10 feet at F4 has a DOF of about .05 feet IIRC...


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Sep 24, 2017 19:51:55   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Cool, thank you!

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Oct 1, 2017 10:23:15   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Good morning everyone.

Thanks to your great advice and patience, I've made some significant improvements. I know that it's not at the level you folks are at, but to me these are great!

For these sets, I used 2 lens, a 70-300 1:4-5.6 IS USM, and my 24-105L 1:4 IS USM. The 70-300 was giving me problems, the focus and zoom rings were easily coming out of my desired setting. The slightest movement would move either ring, it was like playing with one of those new spinning widgets that everyone is playing with. So the majority of the shots were taken with the other lens.

I used a couple of different settings that were recommended by you folks. I did some cropping and minor adjustment, but overall I had a lot more keepers than I ever had.

Now, for my next question. I have a great opportunity to sell my 70-200mm 1:2.8L IS USM and a Samyang 24mm ED AS IF UMC (I have used this lens to take 3 pictures, and haven't used it in over a year).
I'm considering the newer 70-200 2.8L IS II USM, or maybe going to the 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS II USM. Since I have the 24-105, and a 50mm, I don't think I will need to replace the 24mm Samyang. I also have the Canon 1.4X III extender. So for the type of shooting I do which is softball and Lacrosse, what would you suggest is a better choice, the 70-200, or the 100-400?

As always your suggestions are appreciated.


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Oct 1, 2017 11:02:46   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Congrats on the improvements in your shots! Instead of selling your 70-200 f2.8L, what about selling the 70-300 and the Samyang (and maybe even the 1.4 EX if necessary) and purchasing either the 100-400L IS Mk2 (if your budget will allow it) or the 100-400L Mk1? While the new 70-200L Mk2 is certainly sharper than its predecessor, the 100-400L (either version) is a noticeable improvement over the 70-300, both in reach and sharpness, and considering you're shooting with a crop body as I recall, the 100-400 should be plenty long enough for most uses handheld without an extender. The 100-400 mk2 is certainly an improvement over its mk1 predecessor as well, but the 100-400L MK1 is no slouch. It's a "push-pull" zoom, which some dislike and some prefer (for speed) - it's a personal choice.

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Oct 1, 2017 11:36:27   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
WOW Cookie!!! I can see things are moving in the right direction with your changes! Keep it up and don't hesitate to ask me or others more questions if you have them.

With regard to lenses my two most used lenses are Canon's 24-70 2.8II and the 70-200 2.8 II. These are two great lenses and very versatile. I am shoot them on a FF body and an APS-H body which has a 1.3 crop factor. I also have the Canon TC 2.0x III that I use with the 70-200. I feel I get acceptably sharp results with the TC and the 70-200, but it becomes a f5.6 lens at all zoom settings. I counter that issue with a body that has great high ISO capability. I can post an example or two of shots taken with this combo if you are interested. If you use the 1.4 TC you will not get the Aperture penalty as it will be an F4 lens. And with your crop body you will get a narrower field of view too. In part it comes down to whether you would use the faster 70-200 at 2.8 more than the 100-400 which is a slower lens. I like my options but your needs might be different.

That said, the 100-400 II is an awesome awesome lens. My friend Tara Bowker shoots a ton with it. You can look at her shots on her Facebook page Black Rock Photography. It is a big lens and it extends as you zoom. If you use a Speedlite on the camera with that lens you can be using a setup that weighs 7-8 pounds. Not something you want hanging around your neck...but on a sling or belt holster setup. You may also want to use a good monopod with it at times. You could use your 1.4 TC with that lens too and that will give some long reach with your 7DII. But it will be a f/5.6 to f/8.0 maximum aperture. It is always a trade off in some way or another. It is a great well built L lens and worth the money. I personally am still thinking the II is the way to go vs the I version. So, there are good options you just have to decide what you want overall now and maybe in the future and what you can afford to spend and what you might part with too. A 100-400 II might be in my future, but there are more costly options that also interest me too... I had the chance to play with a 200-400 with the built in 1.4 TC a few months ago and that is a fantastic lens too, but new it is north of $10k... But we can dream...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Oct 1, 2017 12:01:45   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
TriX wrote:
Congrats on the improvements in your shots! Instead of selling your 70-200 f2.8L, what about selling the 70-300 and the Samyang (and maybe even the 1.4 EX if necessary) and purchasing either the 100-400L IS Mk2 (if your budget will allow it) or the 100-400L Mk1? While the new 70-200L Mk2 is certainly sharper than its predecessor, the 100-400L (either version) is a noticeable improvement over the 70-300, both in reach and sharpness, and considering you're shooting with a crop body as I recall, the 100-400 should be plenty long enough for most uses handheld without an extender. The 100-400 mk2 is certainly an improvement over its mk1 predecessor as well, but the 100-400L MK1 is no slouch. It's a "push-pull" zoom, which some dislike and some prefer (for speed) - it's a personal choice.
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TriX, thank you very much! With more practice, and more studying I should get a bit better. I would like to sell the 70-300 (The picture taken from the rear and in the stand of the empire and the catcher were taken with the 70-300, but I'm concern since the focus and zoom rings move way to easy on it it may need some sort of adjustment.

I would love to keep my 70-200 but if I do I won't be able to buy the 100-400. The main reason for me to sell it is to upgrade to the 70-200 II, or the 400. As for the 1.4 III, that unit is brand new and I only used it last week to take a few pictures. I'll probably take a beating by selling it. To be honest, I had a GAS attack and in hind sight probably shouldn't have bought it.

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Oct 1, 2017 12:06:49   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
WOW Cookie!!! I can see things are moving in the right direction with your changes! Keep it up and don't hesitate to ask me or others more questions if you have them.
Best,
Todd Ferguson


Thanks Todd, much appreciate your help.

See my response to Trix.

Whatever I do get it will most likely be the last thing I get for this hobby. I'm retiring early next year and my urges's to buy things have to come under control! A perfect example is the 1.4 III extender, I really didn't need it, and to sell it I would lose an easy $100 and probably more!

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Oct 1, 2017 13:26:28   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Cookie,

If I read your reply to Trix and understand your future spending plans I would suggest the following:

If you are satisfied with the REACH of your 70-200 with the TC 1.4 III I would suggest you upgrade that lens to the 2.8 II. It will work better with your TC. I think this is the best versatile solution on the 7D2 as it gives you a shorter usable length than the 100-400 and the 100-400 is probably not a lens you are going to use in the house for family photos...

If you are looking for more REACH then I would say get the 100-400 II. Keeping the TC or not then becomes a more of a choice in my mind. If you are staying with the 70-200 then I would probably keep the TC for a while at least and see if you use it or not.

Other inexpensive Canon lenses I can recommend as great values are the 40mm Pancake STM and the Nifty 50. Either of these lens are good pieces of kit and would be usable on your 7D2 even with the crop factor. If you have a 24-70 that is good then there is no need to mess with these two.

I would also suggest that you think about a good Speedlite. Canon 580EX II or 600EX-RT I or II are not inexpensive but will improve your shooting in lower light situations with any lens. I have the 600s and they will reach out 200' to provide additional light. Also a Speedlite will be usable indoors for family photos, etc. I got my last 600EX-RT II on sale at B&H for $450 IIRC.

The other thing that will help your photography all around if you are shooting in RAW is a $100 Xrite ColorChecker Passport. This is a great tool for getting accurate color and white balance. There are a number of Youtube videos on it and what it does. It is probably the best money I have spent on my photography. It is one of those things that you think you probably don't need or want to bother with but once you use it you will love it I believe. Maybe ask for one for a gift this season...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Cookie223 wrote:
Thanks Todd, much appreciate your help.

See my response to Trix.

Whatever I do get it will most likely be the last thing I get for this hobby. I'm retiring early next year and my urges's to buy things have to come under control! A perfect example is the 1.4 III extender, I really didn't need it, and to sell it I would lose an easy $100 and probably more!

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Oct 1, 2017 14:25:07   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Cookie,

If I read your reply to Trix and understand your future spending plans I would suggest the following:

The other thing that will help your photography all around if you are shooting in RAW is a $100 Xrite ColorChecker Passport. This is a great tool for getting accurate color and white balance. There are a number of Youtube videos on it and what it does. It is probably the best money I have spent on my photography. It is one of those things that you think you probably don't need or want to bother with but once you use it you will love it I believe. Maybe ask for one for a gift this season...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
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Todd,
I'm leaning more and more towards the 70-200 II. From what you're telling me, and a couple of others, it should be a better combo with the 1.4 III too. I already have the Canon 50mm 1:1.4 AF/MF lens.
Hopefully I'll have my new lens sometime late next week or the next, and I'll give you folks an update.
Take care
Cookie

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Oct 1, 2017 14:39:51   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
I like No.5 best but would like to see it cropped with her more to the left, creating an open space she is running towards. IMHO.

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