Nikon D850 scarcity
Sep 17, 2017 12:24:48 #
My local camera store manager told me that they have five D850 cameras on back order. He also told me that B&H Photo has 2,500 on back order. I purchased a D810 three weeks before Nikon's web site announced the D850. The D810 was purchased as a high res camera to compliment my D3 and D300s. I purchased direct from Nikon and saved $1,000. The D810 is a great camera. I will likely purchase the D850 in a year or so, after I purchase the Nikkor 8-15mm zoom lens and the Nikkor 19mm PC lens. I did purchase my D3 the month it was introduce. It was a photographic game changer as the D850 will be. Don Gorzek
Sep 17, 2017 12:47:10 #
cjc2 wrote:
And none of that is a good thing! I buy from salespeople who have proven themselves honest. I would be MTShooter's best customer, IF I lived closer!
Sep 17, 2017 13:00:33 #
I could be wrong but I assume Amazon is their largest dealer then B&H, Adorama Etc., based on how much market presence each has on the web. Amazon is say early November delivery, B&H and Adorama aren't saying. Beach Camera(on Amazon) is now saying 9/29 for pre-orders already in place, their 3rd delay. People in the know (several large dealers) got an initial quantity and shipped all of those units to professionals like the media and well known individuals that would post videos of their first impressions. Once these folks use their cameras and report any problems or lack thereof, then Nikon will release units. One would think any company suffering economic (profit) woes would have waited until they were sure units would work, then make release announcements and at the same time or shortly thereafter, release large quantities to consumers. With all of the negative press Nikon has received lately they sure don't need to add any additional bad news about recalls etc. And let me be clear Nikon is no Apple, not in quality, engineering, marketing or revenue, so their approach with this camera is just another marketing mistake from someone that doesn't need anymore negative publicity. Explanation for the current scenario? Arrogance at the top of the food chain at Nikon pure and simple, something that has existed for a long time. So wait we all will, hopefully the product will live up to all the hype with minimal quality/performance issues. Time will tell, it always does. All of this info is IMHO of course.
Sep 17, 2017 13:07:31 #
goraw61 wrote:
I could be wrong but I assume Amazon is their larg... (show quote)
Their approach with this camera is the same as just about any tech company's. Hell Apple even had TV news reporters announcing their latest release for them, pretending it was a news story. (Gotta wonder if the talking heads each got a new phone or maybe their whole family did). can you run down to your local phone store and pick up a new one yet, off the shelf?
Sep 17, 2017 13:12:59 #
I suspect that the D850 scarcity is nothing more than a clever marketing tactic by Nikon. It's as if the company is trying to tell customers, "this camera is so awesome, so desirable, our factory can't keep up with demand!" If the camera would have sold out after a month or so after its initial market release, then it would be conceivable that Nikon had simply underestimated demand and not produced enough units in time. But the scarcity was already there right from the start, with the camera shipped in limited quantities. Nikon had full control over the manufacturing schedule and release date. They've been doing this for a long time. They know how to plan production, and postpone release if necessary. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is a warehouse full of D850's right now, the cameras quietly sitting there for the past few weeks ready to go, but shipment put on hold by management until the time is right!
Sep 17, 2017 13:17:52 #
Much to do about a whole lot of nothing. What I see is just another thing for a bunch of grumpy old men to complain about and yet another excuse to fling insults about to people they personally don't know. Another opertunity for the conspiracy theorists to stoke the rumor mill.
Sep 17, 2017 13:25:29 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Much to do about a whole lot of nothing. What I see is just another thing for a bunch of grumpy old men to complain about and yet another excuse to fling insults about to people they personally don't know. Another opertunity for the conspiracy theorists to stoke the rumor mill.
Sep 17, 2017 13:40:02 #
rook2c4 wrote:
I suspect that the D850 scarcity is nothing more t... (show quote)
OR is it that Nikon have to sell a few before they can afford to make any more? I would guess that the D850 is sh1t or bust for the company.
Sep 17, 2017 13:48:30 #
No but when they announce the release of the 8 and then the X they will ship boatloads and they will work flawlessly even as they "bug fix" along the way. I've owned Nikons for years and love their gear, but when I received an email from them stating the 850 was available for pre-order on 8/24 and I immediately ordered one from Amazon (12months same as cash & no sales tax) with a 9/9 ship date, I assumed I was going to receive One. Then the delivery date was revised to 9/16 and now 9/29. So I started calling around to their largest dealers to get the straight scoop and Nikon has misled their dealers that have taken pre-orders for a product that was in limited supply and they are deluged with phone calls from consumers that want to know when they can expect to receive their 850's and the dealers have no idea, as Nikon has pushed back their delivery dates with no definite ship dates. I would imagine when Apple tells their store managers and their cellular partners what the shipping schedule will be they deliver. Misleading your supply chain by telling them to accept preorders and then not shipping when promised is inexcusable in today's tech world is all I'm saying. So now NIKON USA people are praying that there are no performance issues and God forbid recalls, at least the ones wanting to stay employed. And I have to believe if I pre-ordered an iPhone on last week it would arrive in less than 30 days 
Sep 17, 2017 14:06:43 #
thegrover wrote:
It could be he was misinformed or had bad information. I doubt if it was in his best interest to lie. Most likely he told you what he thought to be true. Most salesman I know do not lie or do they love to lie. Their biggest mistake is not saying "I do not know," when they do not know.
Providing an answer when you really don't know is one of those bad things I mentioned.
Sep 17, 2017 15:36:49 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Reading your post shows nothing more than that you have NO CLUE as to the business NOR the industry and can only make up wild fairy tales to entertain your feeble mind.
No, actually, you're the one showing ignorance. So badly so, you have no idea the fool you are making of yourself.
Sep 17, 2017 16:10:58 #
Delderby wrote:
OR is it that Nikon have to sell a few before they can afford to make any more? I would guess that the D850 is sh1t or bust for the company.
A large company such as Nikon? I'm sure they can get advanced credit if they need to. Nikon has plenty of assets. Plus, DSLR sales make up a relatively small amount of their profit; Nikon designs and manufactures imaging and optical devices for a variety of industries. They won't bust because of a single failed camera model.
Sep 17, 2017 16:16:36 #
whitewolfowner wrote:
When a company announces a product, they have so l... (show quote)
When a company announces a product, they have so long to put it on the market or they face penalties fro the government.
I question if that is true as there are product announcement quite often which have not gone into production. Do you have a link?
With Nikon's recent history, since they have started making their cameras over seas and can't seem to keep their quality control
Nikon is overseas! If you mean that not all their products are made in Japan, then that has bee the case for a long time.
I suspect they are having quality control issues that is holding up the release of the camera.
No that is a possibility and it would be smart of them to make sure the bugs (that all new products have had since the start of the industrial revolution 100 plus years ago) are gone
By shipping a few around the globe they are probably avoiding penalties while the stock of cameras that should be out in the stores sits in the factory waiting to be fixed.
Pure speculation with a touch of bias
Sep 17, 2017 16:25:28 #
Release a camera when your production can't meet demand is not a smart thing. It's a case of selling something you can't make which is just as bad as making something you can't sell. When like right now the demand is high and would benefit the black market for those who could buy one early and sell it at a profit. Doesn't benefit Nikon bottom line. If Nikon were able to supply cameras to all the ones that have been ordered right now they would score good money. As people using them they started to get tired of them, competition release competitive models, people don't buy as much any more.
Sep 17, 2017 16:35:09 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Release a camera when your production can't meet d... (show quote)
Conversely, ramping up production on a product before you can be sure of the demand is poor business. Even though you think you have the greatest toy ever made, after what the DSLR market has gone through the past several years, being cautious is probably the right move.
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