Nikon D850 scarcity
Sep 17, 2017 09:12:17 #
cjc2 wrote:
Pray tell, where did you get this information, or did you just make it up, as usual?. The serial number on my D850 is 268 and it works perfectly. Not real useful to me yet as there is no grip and Lightroom can't read the files. (Photoshop can.)
If read my post, your question is answered.
Sep 17, 2017 09:15:08 #
MT Shooter wrote:
This is the exact same BS as the Portland salesman was spewing. Absolutely FALSE!
Same to you; read my post and you have your answer. I simply mentioned a possibility of the cause and with Nikon's recent history, it has a good chance of being true. When companies withhold the real reasons that production numbers are not met, then they leave us only to speculate.
Sep 17, 2017 09:18:55 #
whitewolfowner wrote:
Same to you; read my post and you have your answer. I simply mentioned a possibility of the cause and with Nikon's recent history, it has a good chance of being true. When companies withhold the real reasons that production numbers are not met, then they leave us only to speculate.
Reading your post shows nothing more than that you have NO CLUE as to the business NOR the industry and can only make up wild fairy tales to entertain your feeble mind.
Sep 17, 2017 09:21:34 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Reading your post shows nothing more than that you have NO CLUE as to the business NOR the industry and can only make up wild fairy tales to entertain your feeble mind.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
Sep 17, 2017 09:30:59 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Professional "salesmen" are paid to lie for the purpose of making a sale at any cost. He didn't have a clue so he picked a ridiculous number out of the air to try and impart his knowledge on you! The one thing he had right was that the first shipment was limited.
I have to take exception to that statement while understanding where it comes from. Professional sales people are paid to make sales. Period.
The better sales person can convince the prospective customer that they need have the product by pushing its features and benefits in a way that overcomes any objections. The less skilled or dishonest, lie. Far to many take the personal decision to make the sale anyway they can. They also change jobs a lot because they have damn few repeat customers.
Sep 17, 2017 09:34:15 #
Rich1939 wrote:
I have to take exception to that statement while understanding where it comes from. Professional sales people are paid to make sales. Period.
The better sales person can convince the prospective customer that they need have the product by pushing its features and benefits in a way that overcomes any objections. The less skilled or dishonest, lie. Far to many take the personal decision to make the sale anyway they can. They also change jobs a lot because they have damn few repeat customers.
The better sales person can convince the prospective customer that they need have the product by pushing its features and benefits in a way that overcomes any objections. The less skilled or dishonest, lie. Far to many take the personal decision to make the sale anyway they can. They also change jobs a lot because they have damn few repeat customers.
And none of that is a good thing! I buy from salespeople who have proven themselves honest. I would be MTShooter's best customer, IF I lived closer!
Sep 17, 2017 09:58:15 #
cjc2 wrote:
And none of that is a good thing! I buy from salespeople who have proven themselves honest. I would be MTShooter's best customer, IF I lived closer!
Which part of this is bad? (beside the missing word 'to'
)The better sales person can convince the prospective customer that they need have the product by pushing its features and benefits in a way that overcomes any objections.
When a customer is hesitant and through conversation you discover what the objections are and point out honestly how those objections are unfounded, what is wrong with that? MTShooter would have a hard time keeping is doors open if he only counted on the advertising programs of his principles.
When you aren't the only pebble on the beach finding ways to attract customers away from your competition requires, among other things, that you learn as much about them as possible and what rings their bell, then responding to that. In MT's case that personal touch is far more important than it would be for B&H or Adorama.
That process is not dishonest, after all it is much the same way we make friends.
Sep 17, 2017 10:07:13 #
Yes, wait... and while you're waiting, perhaps now is a good time to upgrade your computer and storage for handling those larger files...
grtday wrote:
I want to buy a new D850, and no one has one to sell me. I've placed an order at Adorama, but they say November. Does anyone have ny ideas?
Sep 17, 2017 10:12:18 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Professional "salesmen" are paid to lie for the purpose of making a sale at any cost. He didn't have a clue so he picked a ridiculous number out of the air to try and impart his knowledge on you! The one thing he had right was that the first shipment was limited.
Disappointing disparagement...
Sep 17, 2017 10:41:50 #
grtday wrote:
I want to buy a new D850, and no one has one to sell me. I've placed an order at Adorama, but they say November. Does anyone have ny ideas?
Nikon has taken marketing lessons from Apple!
Sep 17, 2017 10:46:56 #
grtday wrote:
I want to buy a new D850, and no one has one to sell me. I've placed an order at Adorama, but they say November. Does anyone have ny ideas?
You can buy one on Ebay....
Sep 17, 2017 11:05:26 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Which part of this is bad? (beside the missing wor... (show quote)
The bad part is sales people acting in that manner. Where I'm from, you get better results with complete honesty. You're right, not much of that left today. I'm lucky in that there is a wonderful pro-oriented camera store an hour away. I buy big items from them as they treat me right. I also use A&B for the same reason. Best of luck, and here's hoping Adobe gets off its a--, and releases a new ACR for Lr!
Sep 17, 2017 11:36:28 #
cjc2 wrote:
The bad part is sales people acting in that manner. Where I'm from, you get better results with complete honesty. You're right, not much of that left today. I'm lucky in that there is a wonderful pro-oriented camera store an hour away. I buy big items from them as they treat me right. I also use A&B for the same reason. Best of luck, and here's hoping Adobe gets off its a--, and releases a new ACR for Lr!
Chris, I don't understand you when you say "acting in that manner". I certainly don't understand why what I described falls under dishonest.
Sales people are not inherently dishonest as a "species" but like so many other groups you meet, one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
Sep 17, 2017 12:02:58 #
It could be he was misinformed or had bad information. I doubt if it was in his best interest to lie. Most likely he told you what he thought to be true. Most salesman I know do not lie or do they love to lie. Their biggest mistake is not saying "I do not know," when they do not know.
Sep 17, 2017 12:14:31 #
My local camera store manager told me that they have five D850 cameras on back order. He also told me that B&H Photo has 2,500 on back order. I purchased a D810 three weeks before Nikon's web site announced the D850. The D810 was purchased as a high res camera to compliment my D3 and D300s. I purchased direct from Nikon and saved $1,000. The D810 is a great camera. I will likely purchase the D850 in a year or so, after I purchase the Nikkor 8-15mm zoom lens and the Nikkor 19mm PC lens. I did purchase my D3 the month it was introduce. It was a photographic game changer as the D850 will be. Don Gorzek
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