cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

As a Nikon shooter, I say "Who cares?". Nothing wrong with the current systems that include a wide range of professional gear, regardless of nameplate. As I own all Nikon gear, I'm unlikely to purchase a Canon body, even if I think it's better, as I would have nothing to use it with. For my main work, sports action, I'll stick with my D5 and my 400/2.8, thank you very much. Pair that with a D500, and a D850 (soon, I hope) and I'm a very happy camper. A Fuji something is in my near sights as a lightweight but capable "Sunday" camera. Best of luck to all. Go out and shoot instead arguing nonsense!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

The issue people are complaining about here, and I hear the same thing from Pentax users, is the opposite. Normally I consider a camera body to be a failure if I don't use it for at least four years - and I don't usually purchase a body the year that it is introduced {currently my primary camera is a "2012" K-30 which I purchased in 2015}; others also seem to want to continue to use "older" bodies but feel ignored by the company when it issues newer lenses with neat features that won't work on these slightly long-in-the-tooth bodies.

mas24 Loc: Southern CA

Nikon makes two versions of their AF-P 70-300mm lens for DX cameras. There is one with VR and the other without. The VR version is about $60 more expensive than the non-VR. The non-VR version is assembled with Nikon's two lens kits that are the D3000 and D5000 series cameras. Budget camera two lenses deals that are holiday sells. However, you can buy separately, the non-VR and VR versions of these lenses. But, who wouldn't want to spend the extra $60 to have VR. This has nothing to do with the upcoming D850, because neither of the AF-P DX lenses would be acceptable on pairing with this new camera. One would assume that anyone buying a D850, would be using FX lenses that one already owns, or intends to buy. Nikon's FX lenses are some of the finest made. Especially the gold ring versions. And there some full frame format third party lenses that very good too.

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

I suspect that the newer cameras that can use the P series have firmware that can be updated and the older ones don't. It could be as simple as that. I believe a pulse motor requires a different feed back and or timing set up than a more conventional motor. It's been too many years (decades) to be sure and I'll gladly leave that speculation to the more currently informed.

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

Now that I agree with. I was just stating that it isn't incompatible with the newer cameras. It isn't my first choice for a lens but it does work. I do know that Canon has worked hard to solve their issues and If I owned a boat load of Canon lenses, I would be a Canon user. I have Nikon and most are older lenses. I just get tired of Canon owners (and to a certain degree, Nikon owners) carping at each other about camera choices. My camera choice is Nikon because I have Nikon lenses that if replaced would cost a lot more than any Canon body (much less also buying corresponding lenses). But If I owned Canon lenses, I would definitely buy Canon bodies so I could use my current lenses. My beef isn't with the companies, its with Nikon and Canon users that are claiming that theirs is best. In any given year, Nikon or Canon will come out with a really nice camera and then a few months later the other will come out with a correspondingly nice competitor. The choices are the user's based on what they already have and where they want to go. I have 3 Nikons.. That is my direction. I also have an old Hasselblad with 3 lenses and 3 film backs. I haven't used it in years because I don't have my color darkroom any more and don't want to buy film or pay for processing. But I don't want to sell it either. I may occasionally buy film, shoot and send it for processing. I have 2 old Rolleiflex cameras, each with a wide, a normal and a telephoto lens. I also have a couple of old Kodak, and a Miranda cameras. They are worth more to me as artifacts (antiques) than I would want to sell them for and yes they still work.
My point is that we are all photographers, whether we shoot Nikon, Canon, or are some poor schlep stuck with a Sony or GoPro (wink). It isn't the brand that is important but the results of the photographer. I doubt very much that you would ever hear of Da Vinci saying that Michelangelo's work was garbage because he used the wrong brand of brushes or chisels.
The camera is a tool and if the photographer produces good work with it, generally it isn't the equipment but the user that does it. Brands are generally an economical decision based on what the photographer already has or what he/she is comfortable with.

Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA

Let me guess, your not a Nikon fan. First off, your statement that the AF-P lens is not compatible with the majority of Nikon DSLR lineup is pure BS. It was designed specifically for DX DSLRs in the Nikon Line. It is, in fact, compatible with all DSLRs, but loses some of its capability with the FX line. However, don't fret too much because the lineup of FX Nikon lenses is probably the largest of any camera manufacturer, so if you can't find the lens you need, you aren't looking very hard. Next time please check your facts before you spout off. It will definitely make you look more knowledgeable. As to product recalls, they happen all the time to every camera maker, so I would not fret about that either. On the chance that you are simply jealous of the new D850, maybe it will serve as a wakeup call for Cannon and Notice to Sony that Nikon isn't going away anytime soon. In the case of Sony, they probably already know since they supply most of Nikon's CMOS sensors. Have a great day.

RKL349 Loc: Connecticut

Exactly!

Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA

No, and neither would you buy Cannon or anyone else except Sony. Sony is a much more diversified company than any of the other market leaders and can support significantly more R&D as evidenced by the development of its sensors. Sony has become one of the chief competitors in the camera industry in a relatively short period of time. The only thing holding them down at this point is the selection of glass. However, they seem to be offering more Leica lenses which might be an omen for the future. It's ok that you are a Cannon guy, but try not to put other camera lines down just to make yourself feel better about being a Cannon guy. Nikon still makes great gear and will be a formidable competitor in the future.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Well, at least that's a pretty minor point....., right?!?! LoL
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Trustforce Loc: Chicago, Illinois

No, the D850 needs the extended battery and grip to achieve 9 frames per second. With the in camera battery, the fastest is 7fps. Nikon did not make this camera to replace the D5. Even so, the D850 has very impressive stats, and is everything one could hope for as a successor to the 810. My hope is that the update of the D750 will have some of the features of the D850 (like Expeed 5 processor, touch screen tilting LCD, and 4k video), and perhaps a scaled down version of the back sensor cmos (at 36 megs?). No one knows anything really about the D750 successor, just all kinds of rumors. I wonder if Nikon will offer the D850 as a kit with the 24-120 mm nikkor. I don't imagine that will happen for at least 6 months or so.

Fotomacher Loc: Toronto

The 9 frame burst rate requires a grip, the D5 battery and its associated charger for a total cost of about $900 to go from 7fps to 9fps. I am not that impressed. I will use my D810 until my skill level overtakes my gear capacity...... PS - you can compensate for a slower burst rate by getting better at anticipating the critical moment. Try it.

portcragin Loc: Kirkland, WA

I love the positive messages from everyone. A year ago everyone was sitting around biting their lip, afraid Nikon and big cameras were all going away. You are all right, there is some great new equipment out there I'd like to continue but I have to go shopping for a new camera......loving it!!!!

Good shooting

CO

The selection of glass may be one of the things holding Sony down at this point but I wonder if having an electronic viewfinder is another. I'm not sure if pro photographers will adopt mirrorless. The big test will be the new Sony A9. It's meant to compete head to head with the Nikon D5 and Canon 1DX Mk.II. Will we see the A9 at NFL games and the Olympics? I'm not trying to bash Sony but they would need get a lot of people to switch from using DSLR's.

Trustforce Loc: Chicago, Illinois

As long as your old nikkor lenses have the AI tab, it will work in manual mode and register the f-stop. If you didn't upgrade the lens mount and the only index for the lens to register aperature to the meter is the old metal tab that fit into the FTN's meter, then the lens will not register f-stop to the sensor/computer. I had to upgrade all of my nikkor lenses when I went to my F3 body, so all of my old glass will work with the D850 (manual focus of course, and aperature priority).

portcragin Loc: Kirkland, WA

I love all the new equipment on the market. It's funny; a year ago we were all sitting around biting our lip, afraid the big cameras were going away. I guess Nikon has shown us they are planning on being around for the foreseeable future. Love it. I'd like to say more but I have to go out and buy a new piece of equipment.

Good shooting