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Aug 19, 2017 15:17:59   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
salmander wrote:
She lost the election, because Trump voters voted for change and hope. Sounds good, and there's been change all right, but a lot of negative change that is difficult to defend. The "fully embedded in the system" was not an outright endorsement, but meant that we would have more of the same, bad as it was, but not the seemingly downhill path we seem to be on currently, with losing our prestige with essentially every other country in the world, except Russia, the loosening of environmental and safety standards that will eventually cost American lives - the list goes on. "More of the same" would have been preferable to what we're getting now. It may feel like a "breath of fresh air" now, but it is rapidly becoming stale. It's not going to get better, because he is an amateur politician, he doesn't know how to pick good advisors and he doesn't trust them, and he doesn't know how to think in depth about anything. His spontaneous outbursts on Twitter prove this. Sure, he is honest about his feelings, but they are not the feelings of someone who knows what he is doing. And his honesty is skin deep. He has lied more than any other President in history, so far. More than 300 times - you can look it up. The lists say what the lie was, when he said it, and what the truth of the matter is, and we're not talking opinion here. Many times he said one thing during his candidacy, and then did something else while in office. Trump voters were conned.

The ACA has problems, for sure, but one of the best things about it was the availability of medical care for pre-existing conditions. The Trumpcare attempts saved money by taking out the pre-existing condition part and giving it all to the very rich! Really? The rich don't need any more money, and it has been proven that any positive effects on the economy would be minuscule. Removing the pre-existing part will cause many people to die. This is not an opinion. You can look it up. If it was a serious attempt at repealing the ACA, they would have used the money saved to improve it in the ways it needed improvement. The Republicans were rabid about the repeal - they didn't care one bit about the Americans affected, except themselves and the very rich. The Republicans had eight years to come up with a better plan, with no ideas. What's wrong with them? The idea that they could, or would, fix it after repeal goes against reason.

"We need to elect new people that (sic) can and will work for our welfare and step over party lines." True, but, unfortunately, Trump has shown himself to be incapable of either action.
She lost the election, because Trump voters voted ... (show quote)


Being almost 90 I know almost nothing about Obama care or Trump care. The problem is; when Trump tries to do something, the left just hollers and bellyaches so much that he is having a hard time doing what he wants to do. That's why most of his programs are stalled

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Aug 19, 2017 15:50:11   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
shelty wrote:
Being almost 90 I know almost nothing about Obama care or Trump care. The problem is; when Trump tries to do something, the left just hollers and bellyaches so much that he is having a hard time doing what he wants to do. That's why most of his programs are stalled



Sir:
That is just not true --- The Presidents party has a full voting majority in both Houses & more conservative judges then liberal on the Supreme Court --- In the individual States there are far more conservative Governors then Liberal ---
The bottom line or at least one of the the major causes for all the crap that's been going on for the last 6/7 months is:
Our current President has no coherent plan for approaching and or solving any of our so many-many problems
My hope is that both parties will join hands & start solving these issues in spite of the Totally Unqualified One sitting in the White House

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Aug 19, 2017 16:06:11   #
fhadfield
 
See what I mean. It seems now to never end? Adios to all and from a former hedgehoger let me say, to salamander and the rest of your like, Kiss My Ass.

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Aug 19, 2017 16:09:37   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
fhadfield wrote:
See what I mean. It seems now to never end? Adios to all and from a former hedgehoger let me say, to salamander and the rest of your like, Kiss My Ass.


NO THANKS
For the kissing part ---
and that's coming from a registered - 4yrs in the USMC - Republican

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Aug 19, 2017 16:13:43   #
fhadfield
 
If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. Semper Fi

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Aug 19, 2017 16:18:41   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
fhadfield wrote:
If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. Semper Fi



I'm assuming that you understand as I do --- that at the Rifle Range they did there very best to train us not to ----
Shoot ourselves in the foot

Semper Fi

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Aug 19, 2017 16:30:56   #
fhadfield
 
Ken, My original rant was directed to salamander. That's not you is it?

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Aug 19, 2017 16:39:52   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
fhadfield wrote:
Ken, My original rant was directed to salamander. That's not you is it?


It's hard to tell sometimes but probably not
Look ----
go out & take some photos & share them ---
I'm currently working on & finishing up with a bunch I'll probably send on to the HOGS in the next week or so
looking forward to seeing some of yours

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Aug 19, 2017 18:39:45   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
DavidPhares wrote:
He is no doubt a wiz when it comes to running a business, where he has no checks and balances, nor a press to hold him accountable, but he does not have a clue as to how to be the President of the United States! Period. Also, very sad. Someone needs to take his tweeter away from him.


Hillary can't spell "Clue"! Agreed Trump is a wild card but he sure beats any of the Clintons.

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Aug 19, 2017 19:00:40   #
canarywood1 Loc: Sarasota,Florida
 
jaymatt wrote:
Look at it this way: He's not perfect, but he's a refreshing leader after the terrible mess Obama got us into in the last eight years. And there's one scarier thought: The crooked Clinton witch might have been elected.

Waiting on adm to send this all to the attic, where it probably belongs.


This bozo will never be a leader, and what terrible mess did Obama get us into, talking about crooked, this clown takes the cake.

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Aug 19, 2017 19:05:30   #
fhadfield
 
Canarywood1
Who are you calling a clown?

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Aug 19, 2017 19:28:53   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
ken_stern wrote:
News Flash:
Steve Bannon is leaving the White House

With all these folks either leaving and or getting "Shit Canned" --- It eventually comes down to the only one to blame -------
"Is The Obvious"

Looking forward to the
"FINAL LEAVING"


And the sooner the better. We need more than one to leave, Pence is even worse!!

Don

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Aug 19, 2017 20:33:30   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
ken_stern wrote:
Sir:
That is just not true --- The Presidents party has a full voting majority in both Houses & more conservative judges then liberal on the Supreme Court --- In the individual States there are far more conservative Governors then Liberal ---
The bottom line or at least one of the the major causes for all the crap that's been going on for the last 6/7 months is:
Our current President has no coherent plan for approaching and or solving any of our so many-many problems
My hope is that both parties will join hands & start solving these issues in spite of the Totally Unqualified One sitting in the White House
Sir: br That is just not true --- The Presidents p... (show quote)

Ken you will find this to be true ...
Ken you will find this to be true ......
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Aug 19, 2017 20:34:09   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
salmander wrote:
She lost the election, because Trump voters voted for change and hope. Sounds good, and there's been change all right, but a lot of negative change that is difficult to defend. The "fully embedded in the system" was not an outright endorsement, but meant that we would have more of the same, bad as it was, but not the seemingly downhill path we seem to be on currently, with losing our prestige with essentially every other country in the world, except Russia, the loosening of environmental and safety standards that will eventually cost American lives - the list goes on. "More of the same" would have been preferable to what we're getting now. It may feel like a "breath of fresh air" now, but it is rapidly becoming stale. It's not going to get better, because he is an amateur politician, he doesn't know how to pick good advisors and he doesn't trust them, and he doesn't know how to think in depth about anything. His spontaneous outbursts on Twitter prove this. Sure, he is honest about his feelings, but they are not the feelings of someone who knows what he is doing. And his honesty is skin deep. He has lied more than any other President in history, so far. More than 300 times - you can look it up. The lists say what the lie was, when he said it, and what the truth of the matter is, and we're not talking opinion here. Many times he said one thing during his candidacy, and then did something else while in office. Trump voters were conned.

The ACA has problems, for sure, but one of the best things about it was the availability of medical care for pre-existing conditions. The Trumpcare attempts saved money by taking out the money for pre-existing conditions and giving it all to the very rich! Really? The rich don't need any more money, and it has been proven that any positive effects on the economy would be minuscule. Removing the pre-existing part will cause many people to die. This is not an opinion. You can look it up. If it was a serious attempt at repealing the ACA, they would have used the money saved to improve it in the ways it needed improvement. The Republicans were rabid about the repeal - they didn't care one bit about the Americans affected, except themselves and the very rich. The Republicans had at least seven years to come up with a better plan, with no ideas. What's wrong with them? The idea that they could, or would, fix it after repeal goes against reason.

"We need to elect new people that (sic) can and will work for our welfare and step over party lines." True, but, unfortunately, Trump has shown himself to be incapable of either action.
She lost the election, because Trump voters voted ... (show quote)


Sorry but you have a short memory. "Hope and Change" was the other guy, the last 8 years. Prior to ACA we the working that had our doctor, our plan were lied to and told we could keep it and with ACA our cost was going down and we would save about $2,500.00 a year. So what happened? That was not true because no one even read all those pages prior to voting it into law, all Democrats. The ACA is and will always be the Democrats baby. Does it need fixing or replaced, yes, but again please show me where health care is a right of citizenship, it isn't. Once the ACA is repealed it then becomes the burden of congress to work together to fix it and figure how it's going to be paid for, something that President Obama and the rest of those that voted for it never thought of. Strange how so many get it for free and that's how the Democrats work, get so many people dependent on government handouts that they will always continue to not bite the hand that feeds them. It seems they want it from cradle to grave.

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Aug 19, 2017 20:34:17   #
truckster Loc: Tampa Bay Area
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
And the sooner the better. We need more than one to leave, Pence is even worse!!

Don


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