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Aug 14, 2017 06:30:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Einreb92 wrote:
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Canada. I will post some shots later. I always shoot Raw, but I read that in order to do HDR, the camera has to be able to do it with a jpeg, so I set the camera to Raw + jpeg normal on the off chance I might try it out to see what the electronics could do. Never tried it. When I started downloading from the drive, I noticed the icon identified the shots as jpeg. I checked the menu and the camera was still set the way it was. I had no reason/occasion to have accessed the menu, but every shot is jpeg! I took the camera out last night, shot a few, reviewed the card and got one Raw and one jpeg as the camera was set. Is it possible to have done something to change this setting without going to the menu? I am pissed and hope I mostly got my settings right, as I know I won't have the same options using jpeg in pp. Any ideas? Thanks.
Bernie
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Can... (show quote)


Shooting raw is the recommended way to do HDR. I bet the NEF files are in there somewhere.

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Aug 14, 2017 06:46:34   #
Inglese
 
Your j.pegs should be very good and you can tweak them as necessary. Don't fret about it - I never use RAW and get fantastic results from my D7000 and Fuji X-Pro1

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Aug 14, 2017 08:04:35   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Well, LR can create HDR & Panoramas from RAW file: Photo Menue > Photo Merge > choices
when I take HDR in my cameras I utilize Bracketing at +/- 2

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Aug 14, 2017 09:51:04   #
stuparr935 Loc: Dallas, Texas area
 
I do HDR when I need to and set my camera to bracketing 5 RAW shots. Setting Mode to Aperture Priority and set the over and under to 1 stop. I also use the rapid fire camera setting to be able to press and hold the trigger down until the camera stops firing. Then I put the sequence of shots thru my HDR process in Post (I use the function in Photo Shop CC to put them together). Using RAW image shots gets hyoid the best of HDR...

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Aug 14, 2017 18:10:19   #
francwoods
 
A couple things I noticed with my D7200...
1) if you download using the WiFi... even if you shoot raw, you get JPG files on your phone or tablet. I tried using the cable connect but don't remember if that transferred RAW or jpg.
2) Using card 1 for RAW and card 2 for JPG and taking out the card & inserting into computer... I could transfer RAW (NEF) files. Just remember to turn off camera before removing and do a proper "eject" from slot on computer before taking it out. Almost corrupted one card by taking out too quickly.
Good luck!

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Aug 14, 2017 21:41:59   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
Einreb92 wrote:
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Canada. I will post some shots later. I always shoot Raw, but I read that in order to do HDR, the camera has to be able to do it with a jpeg, so I set the camera to Raw + jpeg normal on the off chance I might try it out to see what the electronics could do. Never tried it. When I started downloading from the drive, I noticed the icon identified the shots as jpeg. I checked the menu and the camera was still set the way it was. I had no reason/occasion to have accessed the menu, but every shot is jpeg! I took the camera out last night, shot a few, reviewed the card and got one Raw and one jpeg as the camera was set. Is it possible to have done something to change this setting without going to the menu? I am pissed and hope I mostly got my settings right, as I know I won't have the same options using jpeg in pp. Any ideas? Thanks.
Bernie
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Can... (show quote)
who ever told you that you
Can only use jpeg is out of their mind that is backwards never use jpeg for HDRI only RAW . When bracketing images . I will hold my hand up in front of the lens to mark the beginning of each bracket set ...sounds simple but it works..good luck. Need any help with HDRI just ask...

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Aug 14, 2017 21:49:17   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
nikonbrain wrote:
who ever told you that you
Can only use jpeg is out of their mind that is backwards never use jpeg for HDRI only RAW . When bracketing images . I will hold my hand up in front of the lens to mark the beginning of each bracket set ...sounds simple but it works..good luck. Need any help with HDRI just ask...


That would be in the owner's manual and refers to in camera HDR. Maybe they aren't crazy, just better informed.

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Aug 14, 2017 21:56:55   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Bill_de wrote:
That would be in the owner's manual and refers to in camera HDR. Maybe they aren't crazy, just better informed.

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I was going to point out just that same fact. As per the manual ( which I read cover to cover...twice😎)

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Aug 14, 2017 21:57:56   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Einreb92 wrote:
I was going to point out just that same fact. As per the manual ( which I read cover to cover...twice😎)






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Aug 15, 2017 00:42:24   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
That is using in camera HDRI that's not an artistic approach to me I forgot that the 7000 series had that feature , that's not a true hdr it's simulated the cameras simple plugin style HDRI you can do that with a cell phone app. I assumed you wanted to do HDRI with an advanced process using dedicated plugins in Photoshop like most photographers. Sorry for assuming .My back up camera a d7100 does that also but have never used it .It would be like swatting flies with a baseball bat. Absolutely no control of the outcome...again sorry for misunderstanding your intent I really thought no one used that feature...I am not a fan of over done garish style HDRI I prefer to be the artist not the camera .I started doing high dynamic range imaging before the camera manufacturers ever started thinking of doing it in camera. My 2nd digital camera was a Nikon d300 when they first came out that's when I started...with HDRI...

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Aug 15, 2017 03:23:21   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
nikonbrain wrote:
That is using in camera HDRI that's not an artistic approach to me I forgot that the 7000 series had that feature , that's not a true hdr it's simulated the cameras simple plugin style HDRI you can do that with a cell phone app. I assumed you wanted to do HDRI with an advanced process using dedicated plugins in Photoshop like most photographers. Sorry for assuming .My back up camera a d7100 does that also but have never used it .It would be like swatting flies with a baseball bat. Absolutely no control of the outcome...again sorry for misunderstanding your intent I really thought no one used that feature...I am not a fan of over done garish style HDRI I prefer to be the artist not the camera .I started doing high dynamic range imaging before the camera manufacturers ever started thinking of doing it in camera. My 2nd digital camera was a Nikon d300 when they first came out that's when I started...with HDRI...
That is using in camera HDRI that's not an artisti... (show quote)


Nothing to apologize for at all. As a new owner of this particular piece of hardware, my intention is to experience everything it can do. Then, if I eschew the use of any of its functions, I can do so knowing it is my choice and not out of ignorance. Sort of like having a convertible and never putting the top down. I have done HDR with my D800 and agree that using separate images taken for the expressed purpose of bridging large differences in exposure values certainly has advantages and puts more control in the hands of the shooter. In my earliest post, I included the information about using the camera's internal HDR software as background for my confusion about how I ended up shooting jpegs when I wanted Raw plus jpegs. This really wasn't about HDR at all: it was about the image type and how I might have inadvertently changed a setting. Thanks for weighing in.

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Aug 15, 2017 06:30:21   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Einreb92 wrote:
Nothing to apologize for at all. As a new owner of this particular piece of hardware, my intention is to experience everything it can do. Then, if I eschew the use of any of its functions, I can do so knowing it is my choice and not out of ignorance. Sort of like having a convertible and never putting the top down. I have done HDR with my D800 and agree that using separate images taken for the expressed purpose of bridging large differences in exposure values certainly has advantages and puts more control in the hands of the shooter. In my earliest post, I included the information about using the camera's internal HDR software as background for my confusion about how I ended up shooting jpegs when I wanted Raw plus jpegs. This really wasn't about HDR at all: it was about the image type and how I might have inadvertently changed a setting. Thanks for weighing in.
Nothing to apologize for at all. As a new owner of... (show quote)


You are taking the right approach. If you don't try everything you never know.

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Aug 15, 2017 11:10:53   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Bill_de wrote:
You are taking the right approach. If you don't try everything you never know.


That pretty much sums up my approach to life. I hate the not knowing part🤓. Sounds like you do too!

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Aug 15, 2017 11:14:20   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Woodsman wrote:
I assume you have looked at the card in a file explorer to verify there are no NEF's on the card. I shoot RAW+Jpg all the time with my Nikons and Canon DSLR and have not had this issue. I have no idea why there would not be a NEF with the option set for both.

You can still use bridge to get to camera raw with a jpg. What I do is start photoshop, then choose file and "Browse in Bridge". When Bridge starts I right click on the jpg file I want to open and then from the drop down menu select "open in Camera Raw". The jpg will open in camera raw and you have access to the same controls as if it was a NEF file. You may not have the same full range of a raw file but you can make a lot of the adjustments you likely familiar with before sending it to photoshop. I do this a lot with Jpgs from P&S and Bridge cameras with good results. Just remember, all is not lost without a NEF to work with.
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Woodsman, I have successfully used your suggested method. So far, so good. Thanks very much for your help and support 👍🏾

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Aug 15, 2017 11:33:17   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
[quote=Woodsman]I hope the camera RAW access for jpg works for you. One thing comes to mind on the only jpg issue. When shooting through the viewfinder is it possible you may have been touching the QUAL button while rotating the command wheel. If so this can change your settings from RAW+JPG to the other modes including jpg only

Woodsman, this comment got lost in the resulting din about HDR but provides the existence of the possibility I was searching for from the beginning: a way to change modes without using the menu. I can totally see how this might have happened and now feel like there probably is no ghost in the camera. The ISO button is right next door. (Hmmm...I might change that function to a different button). Of course it is my fault I didn't catch the change in setting. But after a while, I started paying less and less attention to the icons at the top of the viewfinder and more on exposure elements, framing and the like. I won't make the same mistake again. Thanks for providing the most likely scenario! Keep on shooting!
Regards
Bernie

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