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Aug 13, 2017 15:47:46   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Canada. I will post some shots later. I always shoot Raw, but I read that in order to do HDR, the camera has to be able to do it with a jpeg, so I set the camera to Raw + jpeg normal on the off chance I might try it out to see what the electronics could do. Never tried it. When I started downloading from the drive, I noticed the icon identified the shots as jpeg. I checked the menu and the camera was still set the way it was. I had no reason/occasion to have accessed the menu, but every shot is jpeg! I took the camera out last night, shot a few, reviewed the card and got one Raw and one jpeg as the camera was set. Is it possible to have done something to change this setting without going to the menu? I am pissed and hope I mostly got my settings right, as I know I won't have the same options using jpeg in pp. Any ideas? Thanks.
Bernie

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Aug 13, 2017 15:55:41   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
If you were shooting in HDR and failed to turn it off the camera will not record NEF files.

Start with page 141 of your owner's manual.

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Aug 13, 2017 15:57:26   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Einreb92 wrote:
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Canada. I will post some shots later. I always shoot Raw, but I read that in order to do HDR, the camera has to be able to do it with a jpeg, so I set the camera to Raw + jpeg normal on the off chance I might try it out to see what the electronics could do. Never tried it. When I started downloading from the drive, I noticed the icon identified the shots as jpeg. I checked the menu and the camera was still set the way it was. I had no reason/occasion to have accessed the menu, but every shot is jpeg! I took the camera out last night, shot a few, reviewed the card and got one Raw and one jpeg as the camera was set. Is it possible to have done something to change this setting without going to the menu? I am pissed and hope I mostly got my settings right, as I know I won't have the same options using jpeg in pp. Any ideas? Thanks.
Bernie
Hello all. We've returned from a great trip to Can... (show quote)

I guess it differs from camera to camera. If I do it in mine, I shoot in raw and the the camera keeps all the raw images for my use in pp, and also processes it in the camera, the final image being a jpeg!

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Aug 13, 2017 16:08:27   #
cmc65
 
Make sure your software is not stacking the jpeg over the NEF file.They could both still be there but only showing the jpeg on the top.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:23:33   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Thanks Bill, but I never activated HDR. It was just in case I wanted to. I checked that and it is still off.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:25:24   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
cmc65 wrote:
Make sure your software is not stacking the jpeg over the NEF file.They could both still be there but only showing the jpeg on the top.


For what app is this the case? I have Creative Cloud and brought the files into Bridge.

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Aug 13, 2017 16:57:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
The only thing I can think of on the camera body that would prevent net recording is turning the dial to effects. A few of the special effects are jpg only.

Is it possible you had 2 cards in with one recording jpg and one recording nef?

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Aug 13, 2017 17:02:01   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Bill_de wrote:
The only thing I can think of on the camera body that would prevent net recording is turning the dial to effects. A few of the special effects are jpg only.

Is it possible you had 2 cards in with one recording jpg and one recording nef?

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Unfortunately, the second slot was set to overflow. Boo boo! But having said that, it would only have duplicated the jpegs. I guess I shouldn't complain until I run up against an image that needs more than I can get from the jpeg. BTW: how constrained was held I be editing a jpeg? I hear folks speak about the limits but don't have any experience with them.

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Aug 13, 2017 17:14:23   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Einreb92 wrote:
Unfortunately, the second slot was set to overflow. Boo boo! But having said that, it would only have duplicated the jpegs. I guess I shouldn't complain until I run up against an image that needs more than I can get from the jpeg. BTW: how constrained was held I be editing a jpeg? I hear folks speak about the limits but don't have any experience with them.


The only advice I will give you is to look at what I post. They are all jpg. I believe Imagemiester also uses jpg.

I use an older version of PhotoShop. If the exposure looks a little off I go to "shadows/highlights first. After any cropping or resizing I tweak the exposure with levels or curves. Very seldom do I feel a need to use my nef files unless there is a real problem or printing larger than 8x10.

Go at your jpg files with an open mind, rather than feeling defeated.

Good Luck

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Aug 13, 2017 17:18:37   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Bill_de wrote:
The only advice I will give you is to look at what I post. They are all jpg. I believe Imagemiester also uses jpg.

I use an older version of PhotoShop. If the exposure looks a little off I go to "shadows/highlights first. After any cropping or resizing I tweak the exposure with levels or curves. Very seldom do I feel a need to use my nef files unless there is a real problem or printing larger than 8x10.

Go at your jpg files with an open mind, rather than feeling defeated.

Good Luck

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I appreciate your sane, sage helpful advice. I vow to keep calm, and carry on๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ

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Aug 13, 2017 21:55:48   #
Woodsman Loc: North of Peterborough Ontario
 
I assume you have looked at the card in a file explorer to verify there are no NEF's on the card. I shoot RAW+Jpg all the time with my Nikons and Canon DSLR and have not had this issue. I have no idea why there would not be a NEF with the option set for both.

You can still use bridge to get to camera raw with a jpg. What I do is start photoshop, then choose file and "Browse in Bridge". When Bridge starts I right click on the jpg file I want to open and then from the drop down menu select "open in Camera Raw". The jpg will open in camera raw and you have access to the same controls as if it was a NEF file. You may not have the same full range of a raw file but you can make a lot of the adjustments you likely familiar with before sending it to photoshop. I do this a lot with Jpgs from P&S and Bridge cameras with good results. Just remember, all is not lost without a NEF to work with.

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Aug 13, 2017 23:12:08   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
I am with Woodsman and think the RAW files are on the card. Check it outside of the Adobe system - in Windows use Explorer and in OS X use the Finder - and check for the NEF files on the card. If they are there copy them to a folder (like on your desktop) and import the NEFs from there. And then stay away from JPEGs - you have now seen what can happen!

And I may be wrong but I think your camera will automatically take JPEG where it is required like HDR and panoramas - or those options will be not available when in RAW only.

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Aug 14, 2017 01:18:18   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Woodsman wrote:
I assume you have looked at the card in a file explorer to verify there are no NEF's on the card. I shoot RAW+Jpg all the time with my Nikons and Canon DSLR and have not had this issue. I have no idea why there would not be a NEF with the option set for both.

You can still use bridge to get to camera raw with a jpg. What I do is start photoshop, then choose file and "Browse in Bridge". When Bridge starts I right click on the jpg file I want to open and then from the drop down menu select "open in Camera Raw". The jpg will open in camera raw and you have access to the same controls as if it was a NEF file. You may not have the same full range of a raw file but you can make a lot of the adjustments you likely familiar with before sending it to photoshop. I do this a lot with Jpgs from P&S and Bridge cameras with good results. Just remember, all is not lost without a NEF to work with.
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Really good information that I will try tomorrow. I can't for the life of me, figure out what happened, since the camera was set for both. But I am stoked to try your method and will report back. Thanks for looking into this for me.

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Aug 14, 2017 01:30:11   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
MichaelH wrote:
I am with Woodsman and think the RAW files are on the card. Check it outside of the Adobe system - in Windows use Explorer and in OS X use the Finder - and check for the NEF files on the card. If they are there copy them to a folder (like on your desktop) and import the NEFs from there. And then stay away from JPEGs - you have now seen what can happen!

And I may be wrong but I think your camera will automatically take JPEG where it is required like HDR and panoramas - or those options will be not available when in RAW only.
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I am running the latest version of Mac OS and the card just doesn't have NEFs from that part of my trip. I took shots on the way up there, and have both versions of them. But all 1100 shots in Canada are jpeg only, and as I said, nothing was changed from the menu. That is why I pondered if it was possible to change this setting without the menu.

My reading of the manual says there must be a jpeg involved to do HDR, and that's why I changed to Raw and jpeg, but never attempted to do it that way and didn't activate it via the menu. The camera doesn't do auto panoramas. Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate it.
Regards

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Aug 14, 2017 05:40:10   #
Woodsman Loc: North of Peterborough Ontario
 
I hope the camera RAW access for jpg works for you. One thing comes to mind on the only jpg issue. When shooting through the viewfinder is it possible you may have been touching the QUAL button while rotating the command wheel. If so this can change your settings from RAW+JPG to the other modes including jpg only.

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