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Jul 31, 2017 21:17:45   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
Did call you decide yet? Let us know your decision, ok

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Jul 31, 2017 21:25:07   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Recently I was asked this question by someone who is writing a profile on me and my photography to accompany a display of some of my wildlife pictures. "If you were to go back in time to give yourself one tip (when you first started out in photography) what would it be?" My answer (verbatim) "My tip to myself, and I hope I would be totally convincing, is to spend more time and money on learning photography (training courses, workshops etc) than on photo equipment. More on acquiring skill and less on acquiring the latest and greatest bit of kit." Your description of yourself suggests to me that the best favour you could do yourself is to take a basic photography course before spending a thousand dollars on a camera. Buy a basic used camera for the course, or rent one. Questions like yours usually result in a string of recommendations to buy what the recommender uses. The cameras I use were carefully selected to fill my needs for wildlife photography so I won't recommend them to you. And I really don't know enough about the current crop of available cameras to advise something I don't use. By the way, I am 75 years old and have been taking pictures since I was 12.
Sincerely.
Don

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Aug 1, 2017 04:48:25   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Toni Girl wrote:
I have been without a camera for about two years. The one I had was an "elementary digital" but it awakened me to a desire to learn and do much more photography. I have reluctantly settled for taking photos with my cell phone. Looking at endless reviews, researching DSLR versus Mirrorless, Nikon vs. Canon, all the bells & whistles, etc., I am OVERWHELMED with information. I want to photograph people in their normal life activities, hoping to capture candid shots, not greatly interested in video, and my other desire is on detailed close-ups. I want to be able to have at least one lense to do close ups of still objects or people's expressions while laughing, reading, crying, etc. I've seen far too many "packages" & am slowly coming to the conclusion-- I need to keep this as simple as possible. Perhaps one camera, one lense? I have yet to take even the most basic photography course. The photos of mine that are posted here (please look to get an understanding of my desired type of photo) were my earliest attempts. I am probably most interested in thoughts, as if you were starting fresh, between DSLR vs. Mirrorless, if you were to buy one additional lense for close ups. I need this to be simple as I am an "illiterate" in photography terms! Most of my friends photograph with DSLRs and have secured many lenses. They are unwilling to switch, understandably, and have no experience with mirrorless. I am also not wealthy, by any means, so under $1000 is a must! You'll note from my signature stamp...I'm still driving a 30 yr. old car, by choice. Thus, not expecting a flamboyant camera kit! I am at the very beginning now, and can start over. Help a "photography child" please.
--Toni
I have been without a camera for about two years. ... (show quote)


The Olympus E-M10 mrII and E-M5 mrII with a 14-42 lense on it is small and unobtrusive and will meet your requirement of under $1K. If there is a chance that you might like to shoot in the rain, choose the E-M5 because it is rainproof. And if you should choose the E-M5, remember to choose a rainproof lense. Some of the cheaper Olympus and Panasonic lenses are not rainproof (yes, you have a choice of 90+ interchangeable Olympus and Panasonic lenses). The E-M5 also makes a good hiking and/or travel camera. Be sure you go to your local camera store and try all the cameras out including the non-Olympus cameras. But I can promise you there are quite a few UHHs that are quite happy with their Olympus cameras.

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Aug 1, 2017 05:44:25   #
georgiapeach2 Loc: Georgia the Peach State
 
Have you checked out Panasonic Lumix 2500?
I seen some below $ 1000 it is the upgrade from Lumix 1000

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Aug 1, 2017 06:54:59   #
epd1947
 
Toni Girl wrote:
EPD1947,
Thank you for your advice. I'll check those out!
-Toni


You're welcome 😊

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Aug 1, 2017 07:53:18   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
Pegasus wrote:
Lots of good answers so far, I don't have any suggestions that are much different from what has already been said but I would like to address three points.

Many people have suggested a refurbished Nikon D7XXX. That is definitely a great camera, but as the current owner and user of a D5200, I was amazed at the size and heft of the D7xxx compared to the D5xxx. I looked a D7500 at BestBuy this weekend, and picking it up was an eye opener. I'm still going to get the D500, but now I know how heavy these things are.

A few people, including the one listed in this message have mentioned that the D3xxx and D5xxx series from Nikon do not have lens focusing motors. What they neglected to tell you is that the focusing motors are built in the lenses so it doesn't matter to you. Unless for some reason, you bought a very old Nikon lens that did not have a focusing motor in it. I just don't see how this would apply to you, so just ignore that.

Of course, at least one person here would suggest that you go full frame (FX) when you're trying to stay within a tight budget and probably looking for something on the smaller side. I think the Micro 4/3 sensor cameras used in most mirrorless would fit your purposes, small camera body, small lenses and good choices. I'm staying away from the 4/3 sensor size because I like the size of the Nikon APS-C sensor, and the lenses are not genormous and super expensive. With my D5200, I have several lenses and they will work very well with the D500 when I get around to getting one.

Good luck on your quest; you've taken a great first step asking questions first. As others have said the first decision is mirrorless with the 4/3 sensor or DSLR with an APS size sensor.

ETA: For your stated needs, either will work and you don't need big lenses. If you really want to get into portrait photography, a DSLR with a nice 80-some mm lens and a flash that you can bounce and do things with would be just the ticket. Someone talked about a hot shoe, that will be critical for your stated goals.
Lots of good answers so far, I don't have any sugg... (show quote)


Pegasus,
Thank you kindly for this suggestion. Very thorough and keeps me focused on priority question to ask myself!
Regards,
Toni

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Aug 1, 2017 07:54:14   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Digital1022 wrote:
<snip> I live north of Philadelphia and I would probably go to New York to B&H or Adorama. <snip>


Try Allen's in Levittown. Or Webb Cam in the city.

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Aug 1, 2017 07:54:33   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
geogiapeach09 wrote:
Have you checked out Panasonic Lumix 2500?
I seen some below $ 1000 it is the upgrade from Lumix 1000


Georgia peach,
Love your user name! I have not checked it, but plan to. Thank you kindly!
Toni

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Aug 1, 2017 07:55:08   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Try Allen's in Levittown. Or Webb Cam in the city.


Thank you again, dsmeltz!

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Aug 1, 2017 07:56:52   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
wdross wrote:
The Olympus E-M10 mrII and E-M5 mrII with a 14-42 lense on it is small and unobtrusive and will meet your requirement of under $1K. If there is a chance that you might like to shoot in the rain, choose the E-M5 because it is rainproof. And if you should choose the E-M5, remember to choose a rainproof lense. Some of the cheaper Olympus and Panasonic lenses are not rainproof (yes, you have a choice of 90+ interchangeable Olympus and Panasonic lenses). The E-M5 also makes a good hiking and/or travel camera. Be sure you go to your local camera store and try all the cameras out including the non-Olympus cameras. But I can promise you there are quite a few UHHs that are quite happy with their Olympus cameras.
The Olympus E-M10 mrII and E-M5 mrII with a 14-42 ... (show quote)


Wdross,
Great points. Thank you for offering your ideas. Like the concept of rainproof!
-Toni

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Aug 1, 2017 08:04:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Toni Girl wrote:
Thank you again, dsmeltz!


That was to the person in Philadelphia going to NYC for a camera store. I am not sure about the Eastern Shore area. But Philadelphia is not tooooo far.

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Aug 1, 2017 08:23:41   #
georgiapeach2 Loc: Georgia the Peach State
 
[quote=geogiapeach09]
I just decided I will sell my Panasonic Lumix 1000 I don't need both since I have the Lumix 2500

I have two batteries with it, charger and strap.

I just purchased the Canon 80D you may want to look at it they have a special at B&H.
hmpatton@knology.net

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Aug 1, 2017 12:16:07   #
jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
Your comments about the mirrorless viewfinder makes a lot of sense. I usually shoot with a Nikon D7200 (18-300 mm lens and also a f1.4 50 mm prime lens), but wanted something lighter as a grab and go. Bought an Olympus OMD-EM5 Mark II. Loved it but the viewfinder had some slowness/lag and i ended up selling it on eBay because I love my Nikon that much. Having said that, Nikon and Canon both have great cameras, but try a Mirrorless. As a first good qualify type camera, the Four Thirds MAY be okay if the viewfinder lag doesn't bother you.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:02:50   #
1950Dan Loc: Lockwood, Nevada
 
Wow...lots of good advice posted here. I bought a digital camera several years ago and the slow shutter speed made me loose a lot of candid shots that would have been perfect with my 35mm cameras so it spent most of the time in the hall closet. Overwhelmed with all the info available now I went to a camera store a few months ago, I held and shot several new cameras. They had a used Canon 7d that I fell in love with and I have lenses and flashes that work with it. Carrying this heavy 7d all day gets to be cumbersome. Try out the Cameras on that Mirrorless list posted. Viewfinder, fast shutter, and changeable lens are a must.

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Aug 1, 2017 13:39:16   #
radiojohn
 
A lot depends on how the photos will be displayed and how much you want to carry.

As with the case of writing, there is a movement towards "distraction-free" devices.

What camera will least get between you and the photos you want to take? How much of the camera is devoted to HD video and stereo sound you won't use much?

Even a decent point and shoot can do closeups when set on macro. I saw a very simplified 20 MP Nikon compact camera on clearance for $30! A decent used Canon Powershot with 10-12 MP sensor can do great work. If you are doing portraits, you are only in the 85mm-100mm (equiv) lens range. My Fuji X-10 with 16 MP, optical finder and manually set zoom range suits me well.

There are also a few so-called "bridge cameras" with DSLR like performance from Pentax and Fuji that have decent non-removable lenses. They have electronic viewfinder and screens. The viewfinders are not as good as the latest "Mirrorless" cameras with removable lenses, but they are also not $1,000 for the body only.

Odd to note that with the exception of DSLRs ALL digital cameras in the past 15 years have been mirrorless.

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