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Aug 5, 2017 15:27:38   #
erinjay64
 
Toni - You are welcome. Let us know what you decide on. Another thing to consider is-as I have said elsewhere-Canon pro cameras all use CF memory cards...which are a bit obsolete, and less easy to find. Canon consumer cameras all have OLFP filters...which combat the Moire you may get when shooting some shots of some subjects, but will always certainly make all of your images a bit blurrier. Nikon offers several cameras which have no OLFP filters.

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Aug 5, 2017 15:35:13   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
erinjay64 wrote:
Toni - You are welcome. Let us know what you decide on. Another thing to consider is-as I have said elsewhere-Canon pro cameras all use CF memory cards...which are a bit obsolete, and less easy to find. Canon consumer cameras all have OLFP filters...which combat the Moire you may get when shooting some shots of some subjects, but will always certainly make all of your images a bit blurrier. Nikon offers several cameras which have no OLFP filters.


Thank you Erinjay! I appreciate your dedication to help me. I have saved your comments as well.

Regards,
Toni


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Aug 5, 2017 20:32:17   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Toni Girl wrote:
I have been without a camera for about two years. The one I had was an "elementary digital" but it awakened me to a desire to learn and do much more photography. I have reluctantly settled for taking photos with my cell phone. Looking at endless reviews, researching DSLR versus Mirrorless, Nikon vs. Canon, all the bells & whistles, etc., I am OVERWHELMED with information. I want to photograph people in their normal life activities, hoping to capture candid shots, not greatly interested in video, and my other desire is on detailed close-ups. I want to be able to have at least one lense to do close ups of still objects or people's expressions while laughing, reading, crying, etc. I've seen far too many "packages" & am slowly coming to the conclusion-- I need to keep this as simple as possible. Perhaps one camera, one lense? I have yet to take even the most basic photography course. The photos of mine that are posted here (please look to get an understanding of my desired type of photo) were my earliest attempts. I am probably most interested in thoughts, as if you were starting fresh, between DSLR vs. Mirrorless, if you were to buy one additional lense for close ups. I need this to be simple as I am an "illiterate" in photography terms! Most of my friends photograph with DSLRs and have secured many lenses. They are unwilling to switch, understandably, and have no experience with mirrorless. I am also not wealthy, by any means, so under $1000 is a must! You'll note from my signature stamp...I'm still driving a 30 yr. old car, by choice. Thus, not expecting a flamboyant camera kit! I am at the very beginning now, and can start over. Help a "photography child" please.
--Toni
I have been without a camera for about two years. ... (show quote)


Toni, I know everyone of us has offered advice; bridge camera, 4/3rds, APS-C, full frame. There are threads on this fourm where someone has bought a sophisticated point and shoot or bridge camera 2 or 3 years ago and now is seeking advice on moving up. From what you have told us, I would advise against buying such because I think in less that two years you would be asking us about interchangeable lense cameras and moving up. If that would be the case, then the things I think you should be looking at would be size, weight, cost, image quality and low light ability, and how the equipment feels in your hands. There are some on this fourm that feel 4/3 rds and even APS-C will be of less image quality than full frame. If you intend to "pixel peek" from 6" to 9" from a large print, that can be true. But if you intend to view your prints from proper viewing distances, there is very little differences if you can see them at all. All three formats will print 30" with no problems. People like burkphoto, tdekany, cdouthitt, and myself would not shoot with 4/3rds if we could not print a proper 30" print. Now in general, 4/3rds will be the smallest, lightest, and least costly while full frame in general will be the largest, heaviest, and most costly. Of course, APS-C is sort of in the middle of size, weight and cost. Sensor size does come into play if you are aways shooting in low light at very high ISOs (>6400). At high ISOs, full frame is the best and 4/3rds the least with APS-C a little better than 4/3rds (pixels are not that much bigger). For some of us UHHs, any camera will fit in our hands in no time at all. But for others, there are only a few cameras that feel good, with the controls in the positions for their needs and the size that feels good in their hands. If you plan to travel a lot, 4/3rds wins hands down. For example, my normal personal carry-on, not the larger carry-on, meets the 9x10x17 and carrys a 35mm equivalent of 14mm to 800mm in three lenses and one teleconverter, a 180mm f2 macro, a small and large flash, filters, spare chips, and spare battery. One cannot fit that coverage into that size with full frame. And my next trip is to Germany with tighter requirements by the tour company: 6x11x12. For this trip, I will be carrying the 35mm equivalent of 14-28 f2.8, 24-200 f4, 180 f2 macro, small and large flash, filters, spare chips, and spare battery. Again, it is hard enough for the 4/3rds to fit that 6x11x12 size. And there will be no tripod and I should be able to handhold up to 5 seconds. The fact that I travel often enough would have forced me to 4/3rds no matter what in the long run.

Of course your requirements are not necessarily the same as everyone that replied to you. But if you review where you want to go with your photography, consider size, weight, and cost, whether you want to go larger than 30" or 40" prints or shoot consistantly in low light, and how the equipment feels in your hands, you will come up with a camera that will be perfect for you. Good lucky with your hunt.

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Aug 7, 2017 07:39:48   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
wdross wrote:
Toni, I know everyone of us has offered advice; bridge camera, 4/3rds, APS-C, full frame. There are threads on this fourm where someone has bought a sophisticated point and shoot or bridge camera 2 or 3 years ago and now is seeking advice on moving up. From what you have told us, I would advise against buying such because I think in less that two years you would be asking us about interchangeable lense cameras and moving up. If that would be the case, then the things I think you should be looking at would be size, weight, cost, image quality and low light ability, and how the equipment feels in your hands. There are some on this fourm that feel 4/3 rds and even APS-C will be of less image quality than full frame. If you intend to "pixel peek" from 6" to 9" from a large print, that can be true. But if you intend to view your prints from proper viewing distances, there is very little differences if you can see them at all. All three formats will print 30" with no problems. People like burkphoto, tdekany, cdouthitt, and myself would not shoot with 4/3rds if we could not print a proper 30" print. Now in general, 4/3rds will be the smallest, lightest, and least costly while full frame in general will be the largest, heaviest, and most costly. Of course, APS-C is sort of in the middle of size, weight and cost. Sensor size does come into play if you are aways shooting in low light at very high ISOs (>6400). At high ISOs, full frame is the best and 4/3rds the least with APS-C a little better than 4/3rds (pixels are not that much bigger). For some of us UHHs, any camera will fit in our hands in no time at all. But for others, there are only a few cameras that feel good, with the controls in the positions for their needs and the size that feels good in their hands. If you plan to travel a lot, 4/3rds wins hands down. For example, my normal personal carry-on, not the larger carry-on, meets the 9x10x17 and carrys a 35mm equivalent of 14mm to 800mm in three lenses and one teleconverter, a 180mm f2 macro, a small and large flash, filters, spare chips, and spare battery. One cannot fit that coverage into that size with full frame. And my next trip is to Germany with tighter requirements by the tour company: 6x11x12. For this trip, I will be carrying the 35mm equivalent of 14-28 f2.8, 24-200 f4, 180 f2 macro, small and large flash, filters, spare chips, and spare battery. Again, it is hard enough for the 4/3rds to fit that 6x11x12 size. And there will be no tripod and I should be able to handhold up to 5 seconds. The fact that I travel often enough would have forced me to 4/3rds no matter what in the long run.

Of course your requirements are not necessarily the same as everyone that replied to you. But if you review where you want to go with your photography, consider size, weight, and cost, whether you want to go larger than 30" or 40" prints or shoot consistantly in low light, and how the equipment feels in your hands, you will come up with a camera that will be perfect for you. Good lucky with your hunt.
Toni, I know everyone of us has offered advice; br... (show quote)


Thank you again wdross for clarifying and encouraging. Your advice is greatly appreciated and will be put to good use.
Regards, Toni

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Aug 7, 2017 08:52:58   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
To be honest I would recommend a bridge camera which has all the lens sizes in the body. Easier to use no lenses to carry around and good quality results.
I am older now and carrying my kit is a chore. I know people swear by DSLR but do you really want all those lenses.
I agree with others to go to a camera shop and feel the cameras.

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Aug 7, 2017 08:55:30   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
I would try the Sony H 200v
Or 400.
Well under budget new and many effects.
Up to you which way you go.

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Aug 7, 2017 09:26:16   #
Toni Girl Loc: Maryland's Eastern Shore
 
alggomas wrote:
I would try the Sony H 200v
Or 400.
Well under budget new and many effects.
Up to you which way you go.


Thank you!

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