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Jul 1, 2012 08:13:53   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
Do you watch Fox News or read foxnews.com? I wonder how many Fox-bashing liberals actually read/watch fox. It's easy to generically slam Fox, it's much harder coming up with a valid reason why.

I love Fox because they are super critical of Obama. Has Fox ever doctored a video like MSNBC has....twice in recent months? Fix was the only media outlet that reported on the radical agendas by Obama's czars. It was Fox that got Vann Jones out of there and we all have Fox to thank for that. During the elections, none of the other media outlets did any amount of vetting of Obama. None of them questioned his policies or did any amount of investigation into his background. Yet when Palin was announced as VP, teams of journalists flocked to Alaska to weed through mounds of documents to 'figure out' who Sarah Palin was and to find anything in her background that could be used against her.

Tea Party rallies were reported on very unfavorably by most media outlets where occupy protests were generally heralded as a bunch of honorable & heroic nobles trying to end corruption on corporate America. The list goes on and on and on.

So do I care if the head of Fox has ethical behavior or not? Nope. That's got nothing to do with journalistic integrity interfering with the story. Thats as ridiculous as questioning whether Starbucks sells genuine coffee or not because the head of starbucks drinks nothing but teavana.

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Jul 1, 2012 08:23:09   #
swimbob Loc: Columbia, S.C.
 
sinatraman wrote:
and dan rather does? and the Kennedy boys had ethics? LBJ and the missing texas ballot boxes? chris mathews calling conservative women columists sluts and whores is ethical? Let's talk about Bill "alley cat" Clintons ethics. At least Richard Nixon never cheated on and loved Pat Nixon dearly!!! Unlike Ted Kennedy, roger ailes car never killed anyone, nor did he wait 9 hours untill he sobered up before reporting the "accident" to the police.


And let's not forget the hanging chads in Florida.

Re-elect Al Gore!

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Jul 1, 2012 08:56:27   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
prove roger ailes has no ethics please. and even if he doesn't prove that it affects what is being produced at Fox News. Your bluff has been called sir show your cards. I will also add to my list Barry O has no ethics. As President he is sworn to uphold the laws of this land. By refusing to enforce the IMMIGRATION laws, and to grant amnesty to Illegal aliens despite congress not authorizing him to do so is unethical, illegal and quite frankly an IMPEACHABLE offense.

if you are going to charge the right with unethical behavior, you should be intellectually honest enough to also recognize unethical behavior from the left.

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Jul 1, 2012 09:02:43   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
Let's not forget Obama making recess appointments when Congress was not in recess.

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Jul 1, 2012 09:05:00   #
wrr Loc: SEK
 
This is about as interesting as watching donrant and sinman play Ring Around the Rosie...

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Jul 1, 2012 09:09:53   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
i would prefer not to be called sinman either use my screenname or adress me as ken. As a born again christian, i despise sin!

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Jul 1, 2012 09:39:46   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
sinatraman wrote:
being liberal, it beats having to think for yourself.


Actually Sinatraman you have the right quote but you understand it backwards. Conservativism by definition is "the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change."

Hence, if one holds conservative views they strongly resist change therefore they hold on to the past and to established norms. Therefore,
thinking in the sense of visionary thinking or creative thinking would be fearful to a conservative.........

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Jul 1, 2012 09:39:47   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I hate Fox News because it is not a news channel and they make stuff up!

University Study: Fox Viewers More Misinformed

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I have a warm spot in my heart for the University of Maryland. Though I didn't end up in College Park, they were nice enough to offer me admission when few other colleges (given my high school grades) were inclined to do so. The Terps saw something in me that others did not. They have now come under fire from Fox News, and I rise to their defense.

Scholars at the university have conducted a survey on the impact of the news business on good citizenship. Not surprisingly, they found that voters who made the effort to watch TV news and read about the issues were less likely to be misinformed. Not surprisingly, there was a significant exception: Fox News.

MSNBC took some hits, but it was the daily viewers of Fox News who were significantly more misinformed about healthcare, climate change, and Barack Obama. They were 14 points more likely to mistakenly believe that "the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts," and 13 points more likely to erroneously believe that "the auto bailout only occurred under Obama," and 12 points more likely to hold the incorrect belief that "when TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it." By 30 points, they mistakenly believed that "most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring."

[See photos of the Obamas behind the scenes.]

And of course, they were 31 percent more likely to believe the Birther whopper that "it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States."

It was not a matter of partisan self-selection. Democrats who watched Fox, as well as Republicans, came away misled and misinformed.

One would think that, in replying to the findings of the Maryland survey, Fox would strive to be reasoned and accurate. A major American university, after all, had raised serious questions about Fox's objectivity and reliability. These are core journalistic values.

Instead, a Fox spokesman told the New York Times that Maryland is a school for lazy inebriates.

"The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having `Students Who Study the Least," and being the `Best Party School.' Given these fine academic distinctions, we'll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was 'researched' with," said Fox's Michael Clemente.

Apparently, Clemente was...um...misinformed.

The Times' Brian Stelter checked the facts. He reports that "for the record, the Princeton Review says the University of Maryland ranks among the 'Best Northeastern Colleges.' "

And, much as its students and alumni would like to claim the honor, Maryland was not Number One on the Review's list of party schools.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed



sinatraman wrote:
DAN RATHER and CBS "news"
Chris Mathews and MS NBC "news"
The New York Times "news"
Newsweek "news" aka the pr dept for the obama white house
The Washington Post "news
The commie news network "news"
The Los Angeles Times "news"
etc etc etc.

liberals HATE FOX because they do not toe the liberal line unlike the rest of the national media. Also Fox is the ONLY news media to dare question Barry o's administration on fast and furious. The rest of the media wants to give Barry a pass, just like they did on bill ayers, the presidents unrepentant terrorist friend, Rev Jeremiah wright (the Louis Farrakhan of fringe Christianity), and the blatant anti Semites and criminality of the occupy movement.
DAN RATHER and CBS "news" br Chris Mathe... (show quote)

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Jul 1, 2012 09:40:20   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
docrob wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
being liberal, it beats having to think for yourself.


Actually Sinatraman you have the right quote but you understand it backwards. Conservativism by definition is "the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change."

Hence, if one holds conservative views they strongly resist change therefore they hold on to the past and to established norms. Therefore,
thinking, in the sense of visionary thinking or creative thinking would be fearful to a conservative.........
quote=sinatraman being liberal, it beats having t... (show quote)

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Jul 1, 2012 09:45:29   #
Gnslngr
 
Yet another study has concluded that people who only watch Fox News are less informed than all other news consumers.

Researchers at Fairleigh Dickinson University updated a study they had conducted in late 2011. That study only sampled respondents from New Jersey, where the university is located. This time, the researchers conducted a nationwide poll.

The poll asked questions about international news (Iran, Egypt, Syria and Greece were included) and domestic affairs (Republican primaries, Congress, unemployment and the Keystone XL pipeline.)

The pollsters found that people were usually able to answer 1.8 out of 4 questions on foreign news, and 1.6 of 5 questions on domestic news, and that people who don't watch any news were able to get 1.22 of the questions on domestic policy right.

As the study explained, though, people who watched only Fox News fared worse:

The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly -- a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.

Other networks also did badly in some sections; MSNBC viewers and Fox News viewers both fared worse in answering international questions than people who watched no news.

People who only listened to NPR or watched Sunday morning talk shows or "The Daily Show" did the best in the study.

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Jul 1, 2012 09:45:31   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
ole sarg wrote:
I hate Fox News because it is not a news channel and they make stuff up!

University Study: Fox Viewers More Misinformed

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I have a warm spot in my heart for the University of Maryland. Though I didn't end up in College Park, they were nice enough to offer me admission when few other colleges (given my high school grades) were inclined to do so. The Terps saw something in me that others did not. They have now come under fire from Fox News, and I rise to their defense.

Scholars at the university have conducted a survey on the impact of the news business on good citizenship. Not surprisingly, they found that voters who made the effort to watch TV news and read about the issues were less likely to be misinformed. Not surprisingly, there was a significant exception: Fox News.

MSNBC took some hits, but it was the daily viewers of Fox News who were significantly more misinformed about healthcare, climate change, and Barack Obama. They were 14 points more likely to mistakenly believe that "the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts," and 13 points more likely to erroneously believe that "the auto bailout only occurred under Obama," and 12 points more likely to hold the incorrect belief that "when TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it." By 30 points, they mistakenly believed that "most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring."

[See photos of the Obamas behind the scenes.]

And of course, they were 31 percent more likely to believe the Birther whopper that "it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States."

It was not a matter of partisan self-selection. Democrats who watched Fox, as well as Republicans, came away misled and misinformed.

One would think that, in replying to the findings of the Maryland survey, Fox would strive to be reasoned and accurate. A major American university, after all, had raised serious questions about Fox's objectivity and reliability. These are core journalistic values.

Instead, a Fox spokesman told the New York Times that Maryland is a school for lazy inebriates.

"The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having `Students Who Study the Least," and being the `Best Party School.' Given these fine academic distinctions, we'll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was 'researched' with," said Fox's Michael Clemente.

Apparently, Clemente was...um...misinformed.

The Times' Brian Stelter checked the facts. He reports that "for the record, the Princeton Review says the University of Maryland ranks among the 'Best Northeastern Colleges.' "

And, much as its students and alumni would like to claim the honor, Maryland was not Number One on the Review's list of party schools.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed



sinatraman wrote:
DAN RATHER and CBS "news"
Chris Mathews and MS NBC "news"
The New York Times "news"
Newsweek "news" aka the pr dept for the obama white house
The Washington Post "news
The commie news network "news"
The Los Angeles Times "news"
etc etc etc.

liberals HATE FOX because they do not toe the liberal line unlike the rest of the national media. Also Fox is the ONLY news media to dare question Barry o's administration on fast and furious. The rest of the media wants to give Barry a pass, just like they did on bill ayers, the presidents unrepentant terrorist friend, Rev Jeremiah wright (the Louis Farrakhan of fringe Christianity), and the blatant anti Semites and criminality of the occupy movement.
DAN RATHER and CBS "news" br Chris Mathe... (show quote)
I hate Fox News because it is not a news channel a... (show quote)


Yes, all of our media are biased. Oh how can this be? One asks incredulously. Simple - all humans have opinions and all news media are staffed by humans.

Yes, CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC and Fox are biased (see above). And yes all of the major news outlets have allowed their bias to color the slant of their news. A difference between Fox and the others is that Fox colors and slants their news consciously. They deliberately slant the days news through a known bias filter (just like the photographer who shoots everything through a polarizer filter) those who watch Fox never see unpolarized news........and Fox can be quite virulent - fanning the flames so to speak of the populace and boy does doing that sure boost ratings.

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Jul 1, 2012 09:54:07   #
pigpen
 
docrob wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
being liberal, it beats having to think for yourself.


Actually Sinatraman you have the right quote but you understand it backwards. Conservativism by definition is "the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change."

Hence, if one holds conservative views they strongly resist change therefore they hold on to the past and to established norms. Therefore,
thinking in the sense of visionary thinking or creative thinking would be fearful to a conservative.........
quote=sinatraman being liberal, it beats having t... (show quote)



Maybe you understand it backwards. Change is not always a positive thing. Embracing change simply on the merits of it being different doesn't automatically ensure better results, many times its worse.

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Jul 1, 2012 10:17:18   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
pigpen wrote:
docrob wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
being liberal, it beats having to think for yourself.


Actually Sinatraman you have the right quote but you understand it backwards. Conservativism by definition is "the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change."

Hence, if one holds conservative views they strongly resist change therefore they hold on to the past and to established norms. Therefore,
thinking in the sense of visionary thinking or creative thinking would be fearful to a conservative.........
quote=sinatraman being liberal, it beats having t... (show quote)



Maybe you understand it backwards. Change is not always a positive thing. Embracing change simply on the merits of it being different doesn't automatically ensure better results, many times its worse.
quote=docrob quote=sinatraman being liberal, it ... (show quote)


This is true however it is also true and unfortunately undisputably so that the only constant in the universe is change. So change will and must occur. Sometimes we get to have a little hand or say so in that change - other times not. But change will occur regardless of what you or I believe.

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Jul 1, 2012 10:19:26   #
hartmanr1
 
sinatraman wrote:
and dan rather does? and the Kennedy boys had ethics? LBJ and the missing texas ballot boxes? chris mathews calling conservative women columists sluts and whores is ethical? Let's talk about Bill "alley cat" Clintons ethics. At least Richard Nixon never cheated on and loved Pat Nixon dearly!!! Unlike Ted Kennedy, roger ailes car never killed anyone, nor did he wait 9 hours untill he sobered up before reporting the "accident" to the police.


BETTER NIXON should have screwed a secretary instead of screwing the country !

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Jul 1, 2012 10:23:14   #
wrr Loc: SEK
 
sinatraman wrote:
i would prefer not to be called sinman either use my screenname or adress me as ken. As a born again christian, i despise sin!


dang, I almost believed you there for a second...until these sinman quotes popped up in my mind
"STUPIDEST THOUGHTLESS,MORONIC ASSINE"
"ios tyhe biggest flaming ass**** "
""HERES A QUARTER, CALL SOMEONE WHO CARES"!!!!"

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