Obama Care (Page 8): Reddog, why don't you just sit yourself down in a nice quiet corner, and read the entire Obama Health Care Bill, before you make a fool of yourself

jolly1

Reddog wrote:

So much false info out there check before you post!

Reddog, why don't you just sit yourself down in a nice quiet corner, and read the entire Obama Health Care Bill, before you make a fool of yourself - again.

Don't forget to read the pages I pointed out.

Bob.J Loc: On The Move

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealing is in it.This article came up false!!! Those darn facts Again!!!

TimS wrote:

quote=Bob.J quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a ... (show quote)

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealin... (show quote)

The current incarnation of the group of citizens that call themselves The Repbulican Party are the closest thing to Facists we have ever seen in this country.

quote=Reddog This is bogus Politifact it! End of ... (show quote)

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Why is the GOP against education? Because every educated group with 4 yrs or more of college is for Obama!As Santorum would say what snobs.Seperation of church and state made him want to throw up!I guess he wanted a theocracy Like Iran with Christian sharia law!

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealing is in it.This article came up false!!! Those darn facts Again!!!

TimS wrote:

quote=Bob.J quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a ... (show quote)

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealin... (show quote)

The current incarnation of the group of citizens that call themselves The Repbulican Party are the closest thing to Facists we have ever seen in this country.

quote=Reddog This is bogus Politifact it! End of ... (show quote)

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Bob.J wrote:

quote=RixPix quote=Bob.J quote=RixPix quote=Bo... (show quote)

So was that your costume for Southern Decandence or do you usually wear that to Wilton Manors?

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Bob.J wrote:

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealing is in it.This article came up false!!! Those darn facts Again!!!

TimS wrote:

quote=Bob.J quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a ... (show quote)

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealin... (show quote)

The current incarnation of the group of citizens that call themselves The Repbulican Party are the closest thing to Facists we have ever seen in this country.

quote=Reddog This is bogus Politifact it! End of ... (show quote)

quote=RixPix quote=Reddog This is bogus Politifa... (show quote)

I prefer his Presidential Portrait....

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Bob.J wrote:

quote=RixPix quote=Bob.J quote=RixPix quote=Bo... (show quote)

So when your child comes to you and says dad I am gay what will you do? You know karma is a bitch the amount of bad you are sending is bound to come back to you and the thought of that makes me all warm inside like a hot chocolate on a winter's night.

jolly1

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Your paper comes up false please fact check!

jolly1 wrote:

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

quote=RixPix quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a... (show quote)

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Reddog wrote:

Your paper comes up false please fact check!

jolly1 wrote:

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

quote=RixPix quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a... (show quote)

Your paper comes up false please fact check! quote... (show quote)

Check out this link for your answer. http://www.seiu.org/2012/03/seiu-rns-rally-for-obamacare-at-supreme-court-hear.php

TimS Loc: GA

I've seen a couple people post this executive order about blending HEU. What is the point you are trying to make?

TimS Loc: GA

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

Your paper comes up false please fact check!

jolly1 wrote:

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

quote=RixPix quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a... (show quote)

Your paper comes up false please fact check! quote... (show quote)

Check out this link for your answer. http://www.seiu.org/2012/03/seiu-rns-rally-for-obamacare-at-supreme-court-hear.php

quote=Reddog Your paper comes up false please fac... (show quote)

If the SEIU is for something then that's all the more reason to be against it and vice versa.

johnritter Loc: Durango, CO

Remember when the HC Bill was first introduced and had somthing like 4000 pages, no one read it and they passed it saying "We have to pass the bill to see whats in it", so this is now the new rule?? Don't read it just pass it is the most stupid thing I ever heard.. All Bills should be put online for us to read before it goes to a vote..
In this day and age it should be required in my opinion..
JRR in Colorado

jolly1

Reddog wrote:

Why is the GOP against education? Because every educated group with 4 yrs or more of college is for Obama!As Santorum would say what snobs.Seperation of church and state made him want to throw up!I guess he wanted a theocracy Like Iran with Christian sharia law!

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealing is in it.This article came up false!!! Those darn facts Again!!!

TimS wrote:

quote=Bob.J quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a ... (show quote)

This is bogus Politifact it! End of life concealin... (show quote)

The current incarnation of the group of citizens that call themselves The Repbulican Party are the closest thing to Facists we have ever seen in this country.

quote=Reddog This is bogus Politifact it! End of ... (show quote)

Why is the GOP against education? Because every ed... (show quote)

Oh Hell! There you go again, confusing me. I always thought that Herr Obama and his ragtag bunch of followers were Democrats. But thanks for setting me straight, and my apologies to the Democrats for associating them with our American Fuhrer, Herr Obama.

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

TimS wrote:

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

Your paper comes up false please fact check!

jolly1 wrote:

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

quote=RixPix quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a... (show quote)

Your paper comes up false please fact check! quote... (show quote)

Check out this link for your answer. http://www.seiu.org/2012/03/seiu-rns-rally-for-obamacare-at-supreme-court-hear.php

quote=Reddog Your paper comes up false please fac... (show quote)

If the SEIU is for something then that's all the more reason to be against it and vice versa.

quote=RixPix quote=Reddog Your paper comes up fa... (show quote)

My dad was a steelworker, my mother, brother and sister all worked in nursing. Without unions this country would never have dragged itself up out of the mud. Worker safety and working condition regulations are what separate us from the squalor of the third world. Your comment has revealed you to be an Un-American anarchist that is for all the wrong things and against the American way of life.

jolly1

TimS wrote:

RixPix wrote:

Reddog wrote:

Your paper comes up false please fact check!

jolly1 wrote:

RixPix wrote:

jolly1 wrote:

Well, let's just dig a little deeper into this Oba... (show quote)

I see NOTHING wrong with any of this. The government already has access to all of this financial information under the tax code none of that is new law. The government can at will pull all your financial records to verify any statements made on your tax return. You agree to this when you sign and submit your return.

The fact that the profit portions of the charges for healthcare services provided is controlled is also not new. This is in effect under medicare and medicaid. This is also a routine part of all health insurance policies. If you have ever received a bill for some services not covered by your insurance it is the same thing. The fact that special needs patients are restricted is nothing new...it is the same as medicaid...you must qualify to receive coverage. If you claim special needs it must be verified...nothing new and it keeps the fraud down.

The healthcare companies in this country are out of hand. They make record profits by restricting coverage. The pharmaceutical manufacturers make 90% of their worldwide profits in the United States because the U.S. is the only advanced country that does not regulate the costs of prescription medications.

There are no death panels other than those currently operated by the insurance companies that determine whether or not life saving operations are covered, whether or not heroic actions can be taken or whether or not you sign over everything you own to receive care...get real.

If some doctors decide that they no longer can make a go of their practice because they are not being paid enough...there's the door. Someone who cares and wants to be of service can replace them.

Your arguments against this are invalid. Who do you work for the insurance companies, a pharmaceutical company, or are you a paid blogger for the right?

If this bill is so bad why does every nursing organization in the United States support it?

quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a little deeper... (show quote)

"Every nursing organization in the United States supports it?"
That's funny. Every one of the sixteen nurses I know in our local hospital, and doctor's offices, including the Chief of Nursing, all say that they are against it. Both professsionally and personally.

Now just exactly where do you get your facts from? Do you dream a lot? Perhaps you should consult a nurse about that.

quote=RixPix quote=jolly1 Well, let's just dig a... (show quote)

Your paper comes up false please fact check! quote... (show quote)

Check out this link for your answer. http://www.seiu.org/2012/03/seiu-rns-rally-for-obamacare-at-supreme-court-hear.php

quote=Reddog Your paper comes up false please fac... (show quote)

If the SEIU is for something then that's all the more reason to be against it and vice versa.

quote=RixPix quote=Reddog Your paper comes up fa... (show quote)

Ninty percent of that bunch of "nurses" demostrating in Washington were paid rabble rousers hired by the SEIU to make a lot of noise and wave posters. I just called one of my nurse friends and read her the quote in the paragraph above.
She agreed with that statement one hundred percent.