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Jul 12, 2017 17:09:22   #
Winslowe
 
MtnMan wrote:
BTW the selection of metering mode, not mentioned so far, is probably more important.

Could be because it has nothing to do with manual/auto mode. Probably no one else wanted to hijack the thread.

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Jul 12, 2017 18:49:27   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
cthahn wrote:
There is no auto ISO in manual mode.


Yes there is, at least on the Canon bodies I own.

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Jul 12, 2017 20:56:50   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
Gene51 wrote:
I agree. In the 60s, I had a bunch of fully manual cameras. They didn't even have internal metering systems. I had to set the ASA, shutter speed and aperture. Autofocus lenses? Nope. And my first 35mm lenses were preset aperture - you had 2 aperture rings, one to "preset" the aperture - and a second one that actually controlled the opening. You would look at your meter, get your settings, adjust the camera for shutter speed, then preset the aperture for your shot - then look through the viewfinder to compose at maximum aperture, then rotate the true aperture ring to the stop, then press the shutter. Today's photographers have no idea what we all went through to take pictures. Oh, and you had to bring enough film, in different ASAs, so you could handle all the different lighting conditions. Film was either 35mm or 120mm or sheet film. The 35mm only came in rolls of 20 or 36, and 120/220 roll film was 12/24 shots if you used a 6x6 camera like a Rollieflex or Hasselblad.

The youngsters are definitely spoiled.
I agree. In the 60s, I had a bunch of fully manual... (show quote)


The youngsters are spoiled and we're not? I don't know about you, but I have no intentions of going back to film, even if I could find a place to buy it. I started on Dad's old Ansco guess and shoot. After nine years, i'm wondering why I'm hanging on to my AE-1P, and if it's worth anything to anyone? With digital, I don't have to have an expensive Dark Room nor toxic chemicals. I don't have to wait to have the pictures to be developed. I know immediately if my image needs to be retaken. I've learned more about photography correcting my photos on the spot than I ever could have waiting on developing.

I'd say that we are all definately spoiled. And I'm not complaining one bit!

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Jul 12, 2017 21:31:28   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Winslowe wrote:
Could be because it has nothing to do with manual/auto mode. Probably no one else wanted to hijack the thread.


Auto white balance, anyone?

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Jul 12, 2017 22:05:04   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
cthahn wrote:
There is no auto ISO in manual mode.


I'm sorry but why are you making assumptions about the OP's intent? If you take his post literally, the title is 'Manual "MODE"' is it not? If your camera allows you to select 'M' mode and you can select Auto ISO when in this mode then his question is perfectly valid. It seems to me the OP was looking for advantages/disadvantages of Auto ISO when using 'M' mode. I don't believe they were looking for a lesson in semantics. SHEEEESH!

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Jul 12, 2017 22:08:13   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
rmalarz wrote:
The photographer chooses and sets the ISO, then selects an aperture, then adjusts and sets the shutter speed for the exposure they wish to achieve

Agreed, but completely bass ackward from my sequence. First I set shutter speed for the amount of subject movement. Then aperture for the depth of field or bokey. And lastly ISO that will accommodate the other two settings.

Considerations: I shoot RAW. When I goof, RAW processing can recover several stops of underexposure. New cameras are good at high ISO's but there's a limit. Nikon claims up to one million ISO with the D500, but there's no way you'll get a recognizable image.

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Jul 12, 2017 22:11:24   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
Oh man. This poor guy is trying to come to grips with ISO sensor and you want to blind side him with white balance. But then, white balance may be an easier concept to figure out than ISO.

You are correct, White Balance is an often forgotten setting that can go either way.

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Jul 12, 2017 22:18:19   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
ralphfr wrote:
I'm sorry but why are you making assumptions about the OP's intent? If you take his post literally, the title is 'Manual "MODE"' is it not? If your camera allows you to select 'M' mode and you can select Auto ISO when in this mode then his question is perfectly valid. It seems to me the OP was looking for advantages/disadvantages of Auto ISO when using 'M' mode. I don't believe they were looking for a lesson in semantics. SHEEEESH!


Exactly. Just more of the usual negative one-liners (which are typically mistaken).

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Jul 12, 2017 22:51:23   #
ewforbess Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
It appears that this may be either a love it or hate it feature. I have used auto ISO, but tend not to. I did, however, find a video that gives a good explanation of the use of auto ISO. I say at least try it, then decide if it's something you want to stick with. Here is the link I found. Good luck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFLxYMLsv8I

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Jul 12, 2017 23:06:50   #
BebuLamar
 
I do use the auto ISO feature. I put my camera on A and auto ISO on. Fixed my lens at f/8. It works fine really until.. I run into a scene where the background is brighter than my subject. So I need to increase exposure and what I normally do it such a situation is to switch to manual (I don't use the EC) but when I switched to manual I realized that I have to turn auto ISO off too in order to increase exposure. The first time I ran into this situation I didn't know short cut to turn off Auto ISO and I had to go thru the menu and it was a pain.

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Jul 13, 2017 02:30:23   #
ewforbess Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I do use the auto ISO feature. I put my camera on A and auto ISO on. Fixed my lens at f/8. It works fine really until.. I run into a scene where the background is brighter than my subject. So I need to increase exposure and what I normally do it such a situation is to switch to manual (I don't use the EC) but when I switched to manual I realized that I have to turn auto ISO off too in order to increase exposure. The first time I ran into this situation I didn't know short cut to turn off Auto ISO and I had to go thru the menu and it was a pain.
I do use the auto ISO feature. I put my camera on ... (show quote)


I would have to watch the video again, but I believe the gentleman in the video link I posted above addressed this. If I recall correctly, he used auto ISO in conjunction with the EV +/- function. Just a thought...

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Jul 13, 2017 05:35:45   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
lmTrying wrote:
The youngsters are spoiled and we're not? I don't know about you, but I have no intentions of going back to film, even if I could find a place to buy it. I started on Dad's old Ansco guess and shoot. After nine years, i'm wondering why I'm hanging on to my AE-1P, and if it's worth anything to anyone? With digital, I don't have to have an expensive Dark Room nor toxic chemicals. I don't have to wait to have the pictures to be developed. I know immediately if my image needs to be retaken. I've learned more about photography correcting my photos on the spot than I ever could have waiting on developing.

I'd say that we are all definately spoiled. And I'm not complaining one bit!
The youngsters are spoiled and we're not? I don't ... (show quote)


I try to keep my personal spoiling in perspective. I am glad, though, that I entered photography when I did - in 1967 - because I learned many things that have affected all of my photography since.

I will never ever go back to film - too slow, too much work, and I hate the smell of chemicals and what they do to the environment.

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Jul 13, 2017 05:35:57   #
joseph premanandan
 
it is better to set your ISO manually even if you shoot in aperture or shutter mode so that you have the control over your exposure triangle as opposed to white balance which you can set to "Auto" as long as you shoot in RAW and you can correct inpostprocessing

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Jul 13, 2017 05:36:03   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
I sometimes shoot in Manual wit auto ISO, sometimes set ISO where I want it, but you can use Auto in Manual mode. D7000, D7200

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Jul 13, 2017 05:40:19   #
BebuLamar
 
ewforbess wrote:
I would have to watch the video again, but I believe the gentleman in the video link I posted above addressed this. If I recall correctly, he used auto ISO in conjunction with the EV +/- function. Just a thought...


Yes you can but I am one of those who never touch the EC.

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