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Apr 5, 2017 11:47:31   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Keenan wrote:
Steve, quite justifying EyeSawYou's disgusting, potty mouth juvenile behavior just because you share his politics. There is no justification for such vicious, abusive behavior. He did not merely "ask her to show evidence." He accused he of being a liar and a bunch of other stuff that he had no business spewing at her, particularly when he doesn't even know her, and she just joined in the discussion and is new to the Attic. She likely won't be back because of how she was treated by the right wing foul mouthed asshole trolls, who drive a lot of good people away. I don't blame her if she never comes back. Why should anyone put up with such abuse?

You really should stop making excuses for the unjustifiable behavior of so many disgusting trolls on your team. You right wingers have a HUGE problem with such rampant immaturity and viciousness, and you need to face this reality. Something is wrong with the conservative mindset to have such a consistent proportion of these disgusting, angry, hateful, juvenile name callers. It gives ALL of you conservatives a bad name. Additionally, such extreme double standards and excuse-making reflects badly on you.
Steve, quite justifying EyeSawYou's disgusting, po... (show quote)

"Justifying Eye Saw You's disgusting, potty mouth juvenile behavior?" I said I can understand her annoyance with the name calling. Do you even read these things before replying??

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Apr 5, 2017 11:49:31   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
dljen wrote:
Says Fox. Spread your wings, try listening to different stations, you could even (gulp) read. Google could open your world.

Okay Donna, why don't you provide us with the supposed evidence that Trump or his team colluded with the Russians? It should be very easy. There are tens of thousands of stories about it out there.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:49:49   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Steven Seward wrote:
"Justifying Eye Saw You's disgusting, potty mouth juvenile behavior?" I said I can understand her annoyance with the name calling. Do you even read these things before replying??


Steven, if someone behaves like a disgusting potty mouth juvenile, then what am I supposed to call him, if not a "disgusting potty mouth juvenile"? Why would you have a problem with accurately describing someone's behavior? You're being intellectually dishonest here, and again making excuses for those on your side and trying to deflect the issue. Shame on you. Just like a typical right winger, you divert from the real issue, in order to defend anyone on your team caught engaging in despicable behavior.

Interestingly, this is exactly the same way you guys deflect and excuse Trump's behavior, and try to change the subject to attack the people calling out his reprehensible behavior.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:51:44   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Keenan wrote:
Steven, if someone behaves like a disgusting potty mouth juvenile, then what am I supposed to call him, if not a "disgusting potty mouth juvenile"? Why would you have a problem with accurately describing someone's behavior?

I had a problem with you saying I justified it. I didn't say it was inaccurate.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:53:37   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I had a problem with you saying I justified it. I didn't say it was inaccurate.


If you agree that it is an accurate description, then why did you complain? You don't make any sense.

Me thinks thou doth speaketh out of both sides of thy mouth.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:55:55   #
EyeSawYou
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I had a problem with you saying I justified it. I didn't say it was inaccurate.


I can vouch for you that you were in no way justifying my behavior in any degree, you even addressed it. Don't expect Keenan to be clear and honest with you, it's not in his best interest.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:15:51   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Keenan wrote:
If you agree that it is an accurate description, then why did you complain? You don't make any sense.

Me thinks thou speaketh out of both sides of thy mouth.

I complained about Lala's notion that Trump will be impeached for colluding with the Russians. Eye Saw You was absolutely right on that and she was wrong.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:30:45   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I complained about Lala's notion that Trump will be impeached for colluding with the Russians. Eye Saw You was absolutely right on that and she was wrong.


You're changing the subject again. That's not the issue we were just discussing.

Oh never mind. You are just going to continue to deflect and divert from the issue of the behavior of those on your team. Because that's what you right wingers always do. Deny, deflect, and make excuses whenever anyone on your team is called out for despicable behavior.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:39:33   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Okay Donna, why don't you provide us with the supposed evidence that Trump or his team colluded with the Russians? It should be very easy. There are tens of thousands of stories about it out there.


No Steve, I'm not going to support your laziness. You know that there are tens of thousands of stories out there so look them up and read them. If three security agencies have been looking into Trump's possible collusion with Russia, you surely have to be worried. For god's sakes, use your head, Steve. Trump puts one thing above all other--money. He couldn't get money from US banks and had to go elsewhere. All roads lead to Moscow. His cabinet is stuffed with those having ties to Russia. I am not trying to be nasty, I'm just surprised that he still has ppl believing him. He's batting 0 as a president. We don't and can't have a country run like a business, look how Tillerson is bombing as the SOS. Everything can be secretive when you're running a company, especially ones that don't answer to shareholders. When you're a public official, there's transparency in government, when that doesn't exist, it's rife for corruption. We now have Jared in charge of virtually everything. Trump is wrong for the US in so many ways but ppl have to recognize it first.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:49:43   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
dljen wrote:
No Steve, I'm not going to support your laziness. You know that there are tens of thousands of stories out there so look them up and read them. If three security agencies have been looking into Trump's possible collusion with Russia, you surely have to be worried. For god's sakes, use your head, Steve. Trump puts one thing above all other--money. He couldn't get money from US banks and had to go elsewhere. All roads lead to Moscow. His cabinet is stuffed with those having ties to Russia. I am not trying to be nasty, I'm just surprised that he still has ppl believing him. He's batting 0 as a president. We don't and can't have a country run like a business, look how Tillerson is bombing as the SOS. Everything can be secretive when you're running a company, especially ones that don't answer to shareholders. When you're a public official, there's transparency in government, when that doesn't exist, it's rife for corruption. We now have Jared in charge of virtually everything. Trump is wrong for the US in so many ways but ppl have to recognize it first.
No Steve, I'm not going to support your laziness. ... (show quote)

So you are not going to provide the evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians and that makes me lazy???

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Apr 5, 2017 13:36:16   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
So you are not going to provide the evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians and that makes me lazy???


You know where they are, why should I take my valuable time and effort to type it out for you because of your laziness? Duh, that must be a toughie.

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Apr 5, 2017 16:07:30   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
dljen wrote:
You know where they are, why should I take my valuable time and effort to type it out for you because of your laziness? Duh, that must be a toughie.

Is this truly the way you think? Or is it just an excuse to cover up the fact that there isn't any actual evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia? Come on, this is so easy, I'm giving you a curveball that you can hit right out of the park. You can show my ignorance to all by pointing to the evidence. Like Dirtpusher, you don't even have to waste your time typing your own thoughts, you could just send a link to something to do the talking for you. Instead I get nothing, nada zilch, zip. Anybody else care to help her out? PLEASE! Show me where I am wrong.

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Apr 5, 2017 16:10:23   #
MsLala Loc: Kingston, NY
 
dljen wrote:
I'm ashamed of most of you guys on here. Someone joins who is new, doesn't agree with every word Fox spews and you're all over her. MsLala, there is a reason they do it, an immature one but still this will give you an idea of their IQ. Quite simply, they want to run off anyone who doesn't agree with them, they're old men, decrepit and may have one brain cell left. They hate it if a woman puts them in their place because they are basically, anti-women. They act like the Neanderthals they are believing women have a place and it's not to question a man's intelligence. They're all Fox-bots, do very little reading (unless there are pictures) and clearly, not too bright.

There are a lot of nice ppl here too, some are even among the GOP but right now they're busy defending Trump and kicking themselves for having voted for the idiot. :)
I'm ashamed of most of you guys on here. Someone j... (show quote)


dljen,
Thank you for clarifying the reasons for the unnecessary attacks, I really couldn't understand at first. But, you've opened my eyes to the fact that since I'm a woman, I've challenged their precious POTUS and I've made comments they obviously didn't care for upset the status quo. I was a bit confused because I thought the Hog was a place where other's opinions were permitted even if not agreed upon. I also believed that there were a set of standards that were in place where members were at least civil to each other, but I guess in the Attic everyone is fair game. Again, I appreciate your insight and although I was a bit put off, I find this chat room, the Attic, an interesting part of the Hog. I'll definitely be keeping my eye on the topics and commenting now and again. Hope to chat with you again, whether it be here or about photography.
Laura

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Apr 5, 2017 16:12:13   #
MsLala Loc: Kingston, NY
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I can understand your annoyance with the name calling, but Eye Saw You has a point when he asks you to show evidence that Trump or his campaign aids colluded with the Russians. Despite the avalanche of news stories about it, there hasn't been a shred of evidence so far to suggest that. Even the FBI, who is investigating it, said so. There is overwhelming evidence however, that Obama surveilled the Trump team during the election, and this gets almost no news coverage.


Where's the evidence President Obama had surveillance on the Trump campaign?

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Apr 5, 2017 16:18:04   #
MsLala Loc: Kingston, NY
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Keenan posts -"right wing foul mouthed asshole trolls"???? <<<<< ROTFLMBO the irony


In my opinion, and I'm permitted to have one whether YOU agree or not, you do have a potty mouth and that's being kind. Two questions, if your so sure of your parties commitment then why are so many republicans running from the GOP and Trump? Secondly, if Trumpcare was so good as he and Ryan stated why did Trump pull it? I'm just curious as to your opinion.

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