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Jun 10, 2012 22:16:45   #
pbfcpa Loc: Central Maryland, USA
 
I have moved from LR 2 to 3 and now to 4. I have taken some classes sponsored by our local photo stores. Check out Adobe TV and search for Lightroom. 4. There are severalw great videos that you can watch over again. Start with the video in importing and organizing. It helped me greatly and the ability to go back and review them is very helpful

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Jun 10, 2012 22:55:43   #
rcurrie Loc: Kingsport, TN
 
I highly recommend 10 hour tutorial by Laura Shoe. Shows you how to do most everything you may want to do. It costs about $40. Go to laurashoe.com.

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Jun 11, 2012 00:10:47   #
Birdog9999 Loc: New Jersey
 
Goto www.slrlounge.com click on lightroom then you can select either lightroom 3 or 4 tutoril on the right hand side however, lightroom 4 is still under costruction and will take about a year to complete but lightroom 3 will take you through every aspect of lightroom except the new features of 4. It's an excellent free Tutorial.

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Jun 11, 2012 08:09:40   #
Jerry M
 
thanks to everyone for their input on this. Jerry M

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Jun 11, 2012 09:16:08   #
Schwabo Loc: Florida
 
Julianna Kost is still up.
http://jkost.com/lightroom.html
have fun.

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Jun 11, 2012 09:37:14   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
There are Lightroom forums where you can ask specific questions. You mentioned that it was completely messed up. That covers a lot of ground and not sure specifically what could be the issue.
It's hard for someone to solve your problem without either seeing what you see, or getting you to describe what you see and what you don't.

http://www.lightroomforums.net/forum.php

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Jun 11, 2012 09:42:22   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
Sometimes, dealing with external drives and Lightroom, there can be an issue if you mount the drives later and they are assigned different drive letters than when initially set up in the catalog.

If this is the case, when you go through the library, you will see your thumbnails, but they will have question marks, indicating that Lightroom can't find the image.

What you do in that case is to "relocate" the image. What you would do, (and I can't remember the exact way to do this, but) you can go in to the library, and reset the location of that library to where it actually is. I have run into this before.

I had a bunch of images that I cataloged on a local drive, and then later moved to an external drive. All I had to do is to tell the library the new location. Everything was fine. I didn't have to reimport or anything like that.

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Jun 11, 2012 11:27:14   #
Zenith701 Loc: Southern California
 
Go to a blog from Julieann Kost. She has a bunch of great tutorials. She has one cataloge that has over 18,000 pics. From that she sets up folders and sub folders. Lightroom will only access one cataloge at a time so if you have created more, that could be why you can't see all your pics

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Jun 11, 2012 12:36:29   #
tulsimm
 
Great info.
I think people, starting out in LR, get behind the 8 ball when they, all of a sudden, 1st thing have to think about Files. File location, placement and format. Most already figured out those and don't want to change. They aren't shown that they don't have too. They can use it just as they did before.

Instead of "IMPORT" maybe it should say "GO LOOK AT" or "GO GET PHOTO" or "?" After being successful editing or getting the photo to look like you want it to, then go back and introduce "IMPORT". Let them have confidence and invest faith. Isn't that what we are told to do. Test and invest.

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Jun 11, 2012 12:38:01   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
tulsimm wrote:

Instead of "IMPORT" maybe it should say "GO LOOK AT" or "?


yes, "Look in this location". and if you change locations or drive designation, then you would have to tell Lightroom where the new location is.

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Jun 11, 2012 18:01:26   #
inkslinger
 
Hi, I have used Lightroom for a few years & now on Lightroom 4.1. I find I can do 90% of editing within Lightroom + v4 has the latest v7 Raw editor.
The main thing you cannot do in Lightroom is to work in layers. If you right click on a file you get a sub menu where you can ask to edit in Photoshop/Elements etc. Depending on how the prefences are set up it will place any edited images in photoshop back into Lightroom & next to the original. Then when you create a back up it will back up the edited & original files as they appear in the actual catalogue. I post my images to various web sites i.e. Facebook, Flickr, HDRcreme. Regarding my Hdr images they are mostly bracketed images (3). In lightroom you export direct to Photomatix, Nik Efex Hdr Pro + Hdr within CS5. When I am happy with an image within lightroom I export the file to the folder/s relating to the website I wish it to go to. Lightroom will allow you to export files direct & create albums in Facebook & Flickr.....Hope this helps...

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Jun 11, 2012 21:33:20   #
tulsimm
 
Inks linger, some question hope it is OK.
90% of your editing in LR4?
Is layers part of editing photos?
Isn't layers more creation of Your image that you want to show?

Most of my editing is to find out what I could do to improve my camera work, but I can do 100% in LR to find outI

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Jun 11, 2012 22:18:14   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
tulsimm wrote:
Inks linger, some question hope it is OK.
90% of your editing in LR4?
Is layers part of editing photos?
Isn't layers more creation of Your image that you want to show?

Most of my editing is to find out what I could do to improve my camera work, but I can do 100% in LR to find outI


Tulsimm; To help you make some sense of what inkslinger is trying to say, we should look at lightroom as primarily a photo adjustment tool. We "adjust" the exposure, saturation, sharpness, noise etc. Editing is the ability to rearrange things in the photo, take things out, put things in etc. Since LR is primarily "adjustment" we don't really need layers. In Photoshop, layers are used to segregate different editing functions. You can have a layer that only contains adjustments (like we do in LR), another layer that contains, for example, a sky that we want to add to a scene we took. In this case we could "Edit" or "Adjust" the sky all by itself without affecting anything else. We could have a layer for text if, for example, we were designing a photo greeting card. We could then "edit" the text discretely, without affecting anything else. Layers can be placed in different order, made more or less transparent. It is one of the most powerful tools in the photoshop arsenal.

Yes, for many of us, LR's "adjustments" are all we need but for heavier duty "Editing", like HDR, or composits Photoshop is what is needed.

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Jun 11, 2012 22:21:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
birdpix wrote:
tulsimm wrote:
Inks linger, some question hope it is OK.
90% of your editing in LR4?
Is layers part of editing photos?
Isn't layers more creation of Your image that you want to show?

Most of my editing is to find out what I could do to improve my camera work, but I can do 100% in LR to find outI


Tulsimm; To help you make some sense of what inkslinger is trying to say, we should look at lightroom as primarily a photo adjustment tool. We "adjust" the exposure, saturation, sharpness, noise etc. Editing is the ability to rearrange things in the photo, take things out, put things in etc. Since LR is primarily "adjustment" we don't really need layers. In Photoshop, layers are used to segregate different editing functions. You can have a layer that only contains adjustments (like we do in LR), another layer that contains, for example, a sky that we want to add to a scene we took. In this case we could "Edit" or "Adjust" the sky all by itself without affecting anything else. We could have a layer for text if, for example, we were designing a photo greeting card. We could then "edit" the text discretely, without affecting anything else. Layers can be placed in different order, made more or less transparent. It is one of the most powerful tools in the photoshop arsenal.

Yes, for many of us, LR's "adjustments" are all we need but for heavier duty "Editing", like HDR, or composits Photoshop is what is needed.
quote=tulsimm Inks linger, some question hope it... (show quote)

Good explanation.

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Jun 12, 2012 00:00:42   #
tulsimm
 
birdpix and GE Jerry,
Can I dis-agree? or I disagree. Editing the photo stops at adjustments. Using the photo as a canvas to produce a Product (not the best term but can't think of another) is what I would understand the difference between sftw. Photo used as a Canvas is another Art form which has been jumped on by the new generation. Age has nothing to do with generation either.

If your going to blow it out or cut it up, are you adjusting or producting (maybe a better descriptive word than product)?
If your going to Blow it up then why use adjustments to get it right to begin with? It might be improvement if you don't or maybe you don't? I haven't thought of that before either.
I have used other software for layers and HDR, so I have a concept of what they OnOne, Nik, and ? do. HDR and such sftw doesn't help me to improve my camera work.

In my mind, Comparing apple and oranges doesn't help me in coming to an answer.

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