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Dec 18, 2016 09:23:53   #
RonBoyd
 
markngolf wrote:
However, here is how to reset it.
1. Open the Windows Store app.
2. Click your profile icon in the top right corner and select Settings.
3. Under “App updates” disable the toggle under “Update apps automatically.”
Mark


I did that but the "Update Settings" still shows "updates will be downloaded and installed automatically." Do I have to reboot?

Are you sure this doesn't apply only to "Apps" and not to Windows Updates also?

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Dec 18, 2016 09:25:39   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
If you want to change it, this may work:
1. Open the Windows Store app.
2. Click your profile icon in the top right corner and select Settings.
3. Under “App updates” disable the toggle under “Update apps automatically.”
Mark


Under “App updates” disable the toggle under “Update apps automatically.”
RonBoyd wrote:
Does your "Settings>Update and Security" screen look like this? (I have Windows 10 Pro v1607 Build 14393.576 -- Settings>System>About)

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Dec 18, 2016 09:28:05   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Whoops. Sorry, I skimmed the article. You are correct - it disables app updates.
Mark
RonBoyd wrote:
I did that but the "Update Settings" still shows "updates will be downloaded and installed automatically." Do I have to reboot?

Are you sure this doesn't apply only to "Apps" and not to Windows Updates also?

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Dec 18, 2016 09:29:35   #
RonBoyd
 
markngolf wrote:
... Under “App updates” disable the toggle under “Update apps automatically.”


Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Does your "Settings>Update & Security" screen still look like the image I posted earlier? Mine does.

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Dec 18, 2016 09:39:06   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Yes. Still. I don't think there is a way to disable auto updates. There is an option to defer feature updates

"Defer upgrades in Windows 10
Some Windows 10 editions let you defer upgrades to your PC. When you defer upgrades, new Windows features won’t be downloaded or installed for several months. Deferring upgrades doesn’t affect security updates. Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available."
Mark

RonBoyd wrote:
Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Does your "Settings>Update & Security" screen still look like the image I posted earlier? Mine does.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:00:48   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
RonBoyd wrote:
Does your "Settings>Update and Security" screen look like this? (I have Windows 10 Pro v1607 Build 14393.576 -- Settings>System>About)

No it doesn't. And my Settings>System>About doesn't show the version and build numbers, although I did find that I have v1607 on another screen.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:09:30   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
markngolf wrote:
Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available."
Mark

My "Defer Upgrades" box is not checked, yet under "Update Details" I have two updates waiting for download and two updates waiting for install, but no option to download the "waiting for download" updates or install the "waiting for install" updates. How do effect those two actions?

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Dec 18, 2016 10:16:58   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
How do you navigate to, "Update Details"? What win 10 version are you running?
Thanks,
Mark
houdel wrote:
My "Defer Upgrades" box is not checked, yet under "Update Details" I have two updates waiting for download and two updates waiting for install, but no option to download the "waiting for download" updates or install the "waiting for install" updates. How do effect those two actions?

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Dec 18, 2016 10:19:42   #
cochese
 
You cannot turn Windows updates off, nor stop them from installing in 10, Windows has decided that any Microsoft Windows updates will be installed each time you start your computer. Windows 7 will soon be unsupported and then become a security nightmare. Anyone who wants to stay secure should look into Linux, which is 100% free. I use Linux Mint. It is very refined, and after a shortish learning curve very enjoyable to use. All software is free, it all has learning curves, but can do everything Windows software can. And if you absolutely have to run a Windows program it can be done in a couple different ways. Worth a look if you want to get away from Micro$oft.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:24:53   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
markngolf wrote:
How do you navigate to, "Update Details"? What win 10 version are you running?
Thanks,
Mark

Settings>Update & Security

Win 10 Pro v1607

Life would be a lot simpler had Microsoft just left the old "Windows Update" setting in Control Panel.

What I am trying to do is find an option to manually download updates when I want to, and manually install updates when I want to, just like in the earlier Control Panel "Windows Update" setting. But I can't find a way to manually do either.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:29:12   #
RonBoyd
 
houdel wrote:
Settings>Update & Security

Win 10 Pro v1607


Does your screen look like the image I posted earlier? If so, where do you find "Update Details"?

It is probably the Build Number that is in variance.

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Dec 18, 2016 10:38:00   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
RonBoyd wrote:
Does your screen look like the image I posted earlier? If so, where do you find "Update Details"?

It is probably the Build Number that is in variance.

No, my screen does not look like yours. I find "Update Details" by Settings>Update & Security.

For now I have turned automatic updates back on, since the four updates waiting for download and/or install appear to be something useful. Once Windows decides to update I will take another look and see if anything has changed. Apparently there is no way to force an update download and/or install so I'll just have to wait impatiently.

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Dec 18, 2016 11:40:47   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
You can limit the time interval for installation. However, no setting to not update (anymore). I have the same version. I believe by not allowing that setting, MS can control which and the number of PC's being sent an update. Just my intuition. Deter seems to be the only option. That pushes an update to a future time until it has been tested. Security updates will always download install. Actually, that is a positive and saves MS from a take down by hackers. It used to be that our only concern was for an attack by mice.(field not PC)
Thanks for the response.
Mark

houdel wrote:
Settings>Update & Security

Win 10 Pro v1607

Life would be a lot simpler had Microsoft just left the old "Windows Update" setting in Control Panel.

What I am trying to do is find an option to manually download updates when I want to, and manually install updates when I want to, just like in the earlier Control Panel "Windows Update" setting. But I can't find a way to manually do either.

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Dec 18, 2016 13:11:29   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I just chatted with MS. Definitely, that option of being asked before installing an update has been removed from Win 10.

Here is the text:
"Talk to a person

Jessie E. has joined the chat
Microsoft Answer Tech
Thanks for contacting Microsoft support, my name is Jessie E.. Please allow me a few moments while I review the information you provided.
sure. Thanks Jessie
You're welcome.
Upon checking here you want Windows 10 to ask our permission before updating, is that correct?
yes. I have win10 pro. That used to be an option, but I cannot find it anymore.
I do apologize for the inconvenience. Yes the option has been removed for the security purposes. Basically Windows 10 will automatically download the update, however you will have the option when to install that update and you can set when your pc will restart.
What update removed that option?
The update will be the November update so called 1511, however the current update now is 1607.
Would I have a record of that particular update?
I'm so sorry however it is a system update, which update the build version of Windows, it's like installing a new Operating System.
OK. Thanks for the information, Jessie.
You're very much welcome.
By the way here's your case number 1366996626, this will serve as your reference number for this chat."

houdel wrote:
Settings>Update & Security

Win 10 Pro v1607

Life would be a lot simpler had Microsoft just left the old "Windows Update" setting in Control Panel.

What I am trying to do is find an option to manually download updates when I want to, and manually install updates when I want to, just like in the earlier Control Panel "Windows Update" setting. But I can't find a way to manually do either.

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Dec 18, 2016 13:15:59   #
RonBoyd
 
markngolf wrote:
I just chatted with MS. Definitely, that option of being asked before installing an update has been removed from Win 10.


Thank you for taking the time to do this.

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