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Nov 22, 2016 16:48:06   #
Djedi
 
Yeah, well, they're starting to get the message like epson's new ink tank printers. Too bad those are for general office stuff only and the quality does not stand up to the real photo printers. Maybe they are just trying to compete with the laser printers. Anyway, my R2400 is chugging along nicely on a CIS system.

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Nov 22, 2016 21:47:41   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
How does the "path to the nozzles is short" minimize wasted ink? The same ink that goes in comes out...
I'm not trying to promote Canon or Epson. The Canon argument is if the hose is shorter, the amount of ink to flush it is less. I have a Canon Pro-100. It is well suited to my fun and enjoyment of photography. That's good enough.

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Nov 22, 2016 22:40:09   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
bsprague wrote:
I'm not trying to promote Canon or Epson. The Canon argument is if the hose is shorter, the amount of ink to flush it is less. I have a Canon Pro-100. It is well suited to my fun and enjoyment of photography. That's good enough.

That is true for switching between Photo Black and Matte Black inks using the same nozzle. Not so for simple cleaning routines.

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Nov 22, 2016 22:50:19   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
That is true for switching between Photo Black and Matte Black inks using the same nozzle. Not so for simple cleaning routines.
I don't think my printer does that. I have no idea what you're writing about.

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Nov 22, 2016 23:44:38   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
I don't think my printer does that. I have no idea what you're writing about.


It's an EPSON thing. Some of them have matte black and photo (gloss) black inks to use on different papers. They share the same nozzle, so switching inks wastes some. High volume users have two printers, so they don't have to switch inks.

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Nov 23, 2016 00:01:31   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
burkphoto wrote:
It's an EPSON thing. Some of them have matte black and photo (gloss) black inks to use on different papers. They share the same nozzle, so switching inks wastes some. High volume users have two printers, so they don't have to switch inks.

It is not just an Epson thing, though it was always less of an issue with Canon. Early Epson printers require swapping the cartridges to change inks. We're talking $60 of ink wasted! Two printers made lot of sense.

That is not true with current models. For printers that mount both Mk and Pk cartridges, whether Canon or Epson, the ink wasted when switching is perhaps $3 worth. Don't do it between every 8x10, but between every third or forth print means nothing.

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Nov 23, 2016 03:00:46   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
PA Shutterbug wrote:
I recently read that it is not recommended an inkjet printer NOT be turned off (and never by turning it off using a "power strip") unless it will not be used for an "extended time."

Depends on the printer. Brother says to leave the MFC-J5520DW on, the Canon Pixma Pro-100 has an automatic shut-down.

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Nov 23, 2016 03:23:01   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
RWR wrote:
Depends on the printer. Brother says to leave the MFC-J5520DW on, the Canon Pixma Pro-100 has an automatic shut-down.

Virtually all printers will have an "automatic shutdown". After some period of no activity the head will be positioned for shutdown and the printer will go into a very low power standby mode. It may have timers still working which will at appropriate intervals do what is needed to keep the printer ready.

In the standby state it can be powered down for things like maintenance or shipping.

When powered up again it will do a "power clean" on the heads that uses quite a bit of ink more than happens if the printer goes from standby to ready.

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Nov 23, 2016 03:36:21   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Apaflo wrote:
Virtually all printers will have an "automatic shutdown". After some period of no activity the head will be positioned for shutdown and the printer will go into a very low power standby mode. It may have timers still working which will at appropriate intervals do what is needed to keep the printer ready.

You mean I should follow my own advice and read the manual?? There’s a good chance I’ve been doing it wrong all this time. Thanks.

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Nov 23, 2016 03:56:46   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
RWR wrote:
You mean I should follow my own advice and read the manual?? There’s a good chance I’ve been doing it wrong all this time. Thanks.

To be honest I hate user manuals for printers. But the Service Manual for a printer is usually really interesting!

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Nov 23, 2016 09:24:46   #
viscountdriver Loc: East Kent UK
 
I have used generic ink for some years and never had a problemI have had Canon and Epsom printers and they have never clogged up, failed or shown much difference with the manufactures ink.

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Nov 25, 2016 10:21:09   #
PinOakEO Loc: NA
 
Thanku'all for the info!

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