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Oct 30, 2011 15:45:53   #
normsImages Loc: Alabama for now
 
Lightroom is a very good place to start. with you just starting out LR is an outstanding cataloging program also. Start now to get a handle on your files the more you get the harder it is to get a handle on them later. LR has all your basic editing and has a perfect interface with photoshop. As being a newbee LR is a none distuctive editer. you can alway reset the pic to the orginal and try again or make a duplicate copy to get different edits of the same pic.

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Oct 31, 2011 01:48:14   #
Sharon1
 
normsImages wrote:
Lightroom is a very good place to start. with you just starting out LR is an outstanding cataloging program also. Start now to get a handle on your files the more you get the harder it is to get a handle on them later. LR has all your basic editing and has a perfect interface with photoshop. As being a newbee LR is a none distuctive editer. you can alway reset the pic to the orginal and try again or make a duplicate copy to get different edits of the same pic.


Thank you Norm, I will also consider this software.

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Oct 31, 2011 02:05:52   #
Elle Loc: Long Island, NY
 
As a rule of thumb, you don't want to buy an upgrade from one release to the next because there are seldom enough significant changes to warrant it.
Another thought is do you use all of the tools in Photoshop? It is kind of overkill for the average person for tweaking a photo imho..Elements or Paint Shop Pro take all of the Adobe filters and offer some pretty cool tools at less than half the price of a Photoshop upgrade. The difference could buy some some nifty external filters and you still have Photoshop to handle anything that the others can't.

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Nov 6, 2011 12:28:40   #
sjbegres Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
There are a bunch at http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/free-photoshop-plugins-collection/

Not sure which are compatible with PSE 3.

Good luck.

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Nov 6, 2011 16:37:24   #
peewee008 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, MI
 
I agree. Use Elements 9 and have tons of free plugins from internet sites.

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Nov 7, 2011 15:28:31   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Hi, Folks

I was avoiding buying Elements because I thought the free program GIMP would do.

Then we got a Costco announcement that they are putting it on sale on Nov. 10 for $30 off. They currently have Elements 10 on Costco.com for $79, so it should be off that. So I decided to go for it.

I don't know if you need a Costco membership to buy from Costco.com.

You can download a free 30-day trial from Adobe and then just insert the key when you buy it. I downloaded it last night. After some initial fussing with their attempt to get you to sign up for online storage it is fabulous. I have a Gimp book coming but know already I am not going to be using it.

Word of warning: the download took 3 hours on my relatively fast DSL.

Regards,
Larry Leach

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Nov 7, 2011 16:27:48   #
peewee008 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, MI
 
I tried GIMP and was disappointed. I believe you'll get everything you want from Elements.
If you want to get artistic(oils etc) I suggest Painter. I have Painter 10 and use it for special rquests. Best,

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Nov 7, 2011 20:47:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Thanks.

I am going to focus on learning Elements.

Regards,
Larry

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Nov 7, 2011 22:55:32   #
peewee008 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, MI
 
Lots of U-tube tutorials on Elements such as tricking it into masking.(not supposed to have that function)
Search and you will find.

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Nov 8, 2011 01:09:59   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Photoshop has a very steep learning curve. It took me 2-1/2 years before I felt comfortable with it, and that was years ago. It's got a lot more features now. GIMP has many of the same capabilities, but learning how to use it is at least as challenging, in my opinion. On the flip side, you can do some amazing things with them. PSE is supposedly 80 percent of Photoshop's capabilities for 20 percent of the price, with a much friendlier interface. Something like that is a good, relatively inexpensive starting point. If you outgrow it, upgrading to PS or GIMP won't feel as painful. www.russellbrown.com has some great tutorials and techniques, and even if you don't have the high-end software, it's worth looking at just to see some of the things you can do.

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Jun 4, 2012 12:25:21   #
Boo Boo Loc: Mass
 
I have a friend who's been doing photography for about 5 years now. She says she has barely ever used Photoshop? Any thoughts on this? Does anyone have an opinion on whether to use Photoshop or not?

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Jun 4, 2012 12:51:20   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Boo Boo wrote:
I have a friend who's been doing photography for about 5 years now. She says she has barely ever used Photoshop? Any thoughts on this? Does anyone have an opinion on whether to use Photoshop or not?

Just depends on what you want to do.

Depending on what I want to do, I use Lightroom 4.1, Photoshop CS6, PaintShop Pro X4, Photo-Paint, CorelDRAW, and sometimes even Word 2010, which has some nice frames and special effects.

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Jun 4, 2012 13:30:08   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
I agree with the recommendation for Photoshop Elements 10 but must clarify that it has quite a learning curve also. If you don't wish to be frustrated buy the book on it by Kelby and Kloskowski. I have tried several other books and a myrid of WEB resources but none worked as well for me.

I've been using it about eight months now and am getting pretty good at it. It is complex software so I doubt I'll ever know it all. You can do marvelous things with it. I really enjoy working with it. But there were three months of frustration before the K&K book created a breakthrough for me.

Also I use it a lot...up to several hours almost every day. A more casual user is likely to take much longer to get proficient at it.

From everything I hear Photoshop is more complex. While that gives you even more features it also makes it harder. The good news is that nearly everything you learn to do in Elements will work the same in Photoshop should you ever decide you need it. I don't see ever needing it.




RMM wrote:
Photoshop has a very steep learning curve. It took me 2-1/2 years before I felt comfortable with it, and that was years ago. It's got a lot more features now. GIMP has many of the same capabilities, but learning how to use it is at least as challenging, in my opinion. On the flip side, you can do some amazing things with them. PSE is supposedly 80 percent of Photoshop's capabilities for 20 percent of the price, with a much friendlier interface. Something like that is a good, relatively inexpensive starting point. If you outgrow it, upgrading to PS or GIMP won't feel as painful. www.russellbrown.com has some great tutorials and techniques, and even if you don't have the high-end software, it's worth looking at just to see some of the things you can do.
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Jun 4, 2012 15:40:41   #
peewee008 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, MI
 
I would recommend. Photoshop Elements. Easier and has all the features you could ever want or need. Just my opinion. I have PSE8 and was able to load all the features now included in PSE10. Good luck. p.s. The is always "gimp" it's free

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