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Oct 11, 2016 07:33:44   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Glossy paper is coated, so it uses less ink. Matte requires a bit more ink.


Thanks.

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Oct 11, 2016 08:15:50   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Do check Red River, I think they did a ink comparison chart a year or two ago, I know I saw one somewhere, bob.

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Oct 11, 2016 08:16:59   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Longshadow wrote:
Doesn't the printer spit out a set amount of ink?
How would the printer know that the paper is absorbing more ink and it has to put out more???


In settings you tell the printer the type of paper, at least on my Canon I do.

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Oct 11, 2016 08:37:17   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
Longshadow wrote:
Doesn't the printer spit out a set amount of ink?
How would the printer know that the paper is absorbing more ink and it has to put out more???


Because most printer software requires you to tell it what type paper you are using, and the Red River Paper profiles are even more specific than just "matte", "premium matte", "glossy", "linen", "metallic", "satin", etc. As previously suggested order the Red River sample pack and download their profiles.

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Oct 11, 2016 12:01:14   #
Billy Bob
 
I used Canon and HP photo paper for years, BUT I'm sold on Red River now. At one time I refilled my ink. But now I use Canon printers and buy my refills on ebay. 5 colors cost me $18. for 30 refills and it dose not dry out for none use.

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Oct 11, 2016 12:01:53   #
Billy Bob
 
I used Canon and HP photo paper for years, BUT I'm sold on Red River now. At one time I refilled my ink. But now I use Canon printers and buy my refills on ebay. 5 colors cost me $18. for 30 refills and it dose not dry out for none use.

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Oct 11, 2016 13:20:22   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
TomZ wrote:
On the Red River Paper website they have a lengthy discussion of the cost of making prints. As part of that they conducted some controlled experiments to measure ink consumption. In some of the tests they conducted the experiment twice; once with a satin/gloss finish paper and once with a matte finish paper. In these comparisons, there was a difference in the actual amount of ink consumed. Surprisingly, those that I read showed the matte paper took less ink to print the same test sheets. But mind you these tests were naturally being run with the ICC profiles installed for the paper being used, which is the way we should all do our printing.
On the Red River Paper website they have a lengthy... (show quote)


The Red River Paper website has a lot of different types of articles that are very helpful. Not only do they have cost analysis for printing, they also have reviews of different printers. Plus, when you get their newsletter, there is always a list of links that can direct you to some good sites and good information. I, too, "discovered" them through a recommendation! Bought the sampler first, and tried out each different paper to see how it affected the image. That is how I decided which would be my favorites...

Just purchased a box of their Polar Pearl Metallic when it was on sale recently! My "go-to" paper is the Ultra-Pro Satin, but my all-time favorite is the Luster paper. I use that for the "best" photographs which "deserve" special treatment.

They also have downloadable ICC profiles of their papers. The instructions are good, and I can select from the list for whichever paper I am using.

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Oct 11, 2016 13:32:27   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Doesn't the printer spit out a set amount of ink?
How would the printer know that the paper is absorbing more ink and it has to put out more???


Before printing, my printer software let's me choose from among various kinds of paper, gloss, matte,etc. I have always assumed that this is controlling something, not just asking to toy with me. LOL For clarification, this was true with my previous Canon printer and now with my epson 860. (Sorry, I don't run with the big boys.)

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Oct 11, 2016 13:51:10   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Robert R wrote:
I have been following the current topic on using Canon ink or ink from different manufactures for Canon Pixma Pro 100. I have been using various papers, such as Canon's pro platinum, glossy, luster, semigloss, and matte, along with Red River polar pearl metallic which I really like for some applications. My question is if different papers use more or less ink to print. The matte paper from Canon seems more porous, so does it suck up more ink. Just asking.


When your printer software was designed, the ICC profiles for each type of Canon paper are all different in that they all need different amounts of ink and the saturations needed to be different. I've attended several seminars at the Canon Learning Center about their different inkjet printers starting with the Pro-100 up to the Pro-2000. They showed us charts with amounts of ink used for a certain example picture. (each picture is different and uses different amounts of ink) I was surprised to see that the same picture printed on different paper used much different amounts of ink. On Luster paper for example, the picture might use mostly a lot of red pigment and on matte it used mostly cyan and red pigment was way down on the chart. So to answer your question, yes, different amounts of the different colors are used on the same picture if printed on different media. \

One thing Canon does with it's higher end printers i.e. the Pro-1000, after you print an image there's information that can be gleaned from the print software that shows you the amount of ink in ML's and the cost per page according to the prices of ink sold by Canon direct. The lower end printers like the Pro-1, Pro-10 and Pro-100 don't have this feature. Too bad, I can't see why they don't include this with the lower end printers too. It couldn't take that much to produce this information from the print driver.

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Oct 11, 2016 20:08:35   #
don646
 
Have you ever used Inkproducts.com for your ink. I have just brought a Canon ip8720 so far so good. I would like to know what you think ?
Thanks Don646

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Oct 15, 2016 08:29:45   #
Dun1 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I own and have used a Canon Pixma Pro 100. It my second choice now for print jobs I need quickly and print my self. I primarily used Canon Glossy Papers from the least expensive to the higher priced Canon papers. I have also used Kirkland (Costco Wholesale) papers and it is my preferred brand based on not only the results but the price. If the situation arose I would purchase Kodak papers, in most instances they are available at any number of sellers, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Staples, Office Depot. I use Color Munki to profile my monitor and printer and establish profiles based on the printer and papers. I find that if I print several 8x10 size prints almost without fail that toward the end of the printing project. It always seemed that I would get a signal that an ink cartridge was low or needed to be replaced, of course it seemed it was at time that I could not find that cartridge. So many sellers and Wal-Mart is an example carry cartridges for the printers they have available for sale, if they no sell the printer, the likely hood of them having the cartridge in stock is dwindles. If I have print projects I need like yesterday, my go to local printer was Costco, however they no longer in store color prints while you wait. The exception is they have one store in the Atlanta, GA area that prints in-store, the Costco store is 31 miles from my home, so much for being able to drive a few miles and getting good quality prints quickly. The moral of the story so to speak is that you have to plan a printing session or sessions. Check ink and paper supplies before starting to print several prints <the best laid plans of mice and men of course. Canon printers were my choice I am a Canon Camera user, and I always felt that buying and using a printer that was made by Canon might give better results < fallacy. Just like cameras, it's about the shooter or user, the same holds true for printing its all about the time and preparation you take to prepare, but be prepared to spend $17.00 for make that low cartridge ink warning disappear.

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Oct 15, 2016 10:58:27   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Dun1 wrote:
I own and have used a Canon Pixma Pro 100. It my second choice now for print jobs I need quickly and print my self. I primarily used Canon Glossy Papers from the least expensive to the higher priced Canon papers. I have also used Kirkland (Costco Wholesale) papers and it is my preferred brand based on not only the results but the price. If the situation arose I would purchase Kodak papers, in most instances they are available at any number of sellers, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Staples, Office Depot. I use Color Munki to profile my monitor and printer and establish profiles based on the printer and papers. I find that if I print several 8x10 size prints almost without fail that toward the end of the printing project. It always seemed that I would get a signal that an ink cartridge was low or needed to be replaced, of course it seemed it was at time that I could not find that cartridge. So many sellers and Wal-Mart is an example carry cartridges for the printers they have available for sale, if they no sell the printer, the likely hood of them having the cartridge in stock is dwindles. If I have print projects I need like yesterday, my go to local printer was Costco, however they no longer in store color prints while you wait. The exception is they have one store in the Atlanta, GA area that prints in-store, the Costco store is 31 miles from my home, so much for being able to drive a few miles and getting good quality prints quickly. The moral of the story so to speak is that you have to plan a printing session or sessions. Check ink and paper supplies before starting to print several prints <the best laid plans of mice and men of course. Canon printers were my choice I am a Canon Camera user, and I always felt that buying and using a printer that was made by Canon might give better results < fallacy. Just like cameras, it's about the shooter or user, the same holds true for printing its all about the time and preparation you take to prepare, but be prepared to spend $17.00 for make that low cartridge ink warning disappear.
I own and have used a Canon Pixma Pro 100. It my ... (show quote)


Dun1,

I agree with what you have written, I too, have a Canon MX920 printer, and like you it will cost me to replace ink cartridges. There is something you can do to lessen the annoyance of running low on ink in the middle of a job.
1. When you purchase your next ink cartridges, purchase the XL sized. Build up two sets of these OEM cartridges.
2. When the ink warning light turns on it is just a warning the ink is getting low and time to think about replacing the cartridge. You don't have to replace it that day.
3. If you have a spare set of cartridges wait until the low cartridge fails to print. (You may get an additional 50 prints).
4. By using the XL cartridges you get a lot more ink and that translates to many more prints.
5. When the XL cartridges become empty take them back to Fry's Electronics, COSTCO, or your favorite photo supply store for refilling and testing, you may spend $12.00 per cartridge in place of the expensive OEM products.
6. In the big stores, like those mentioned above, the printer inks are mostly all the same. The popular printer manufacturers use the same inks unless specifically stated in the user instructions.

The important thing here is you don't have to replace all your ink cartridges when the printer flashes the low ink warning lamp. Be prepared and replace the ink cartridge when it does run dry.

Michael G

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Oct 15, 2016 13:14:56   #
don646
 
I have been using Inkproducts.com for 15 years have printed thousands fo pictures have never had a print head to clog
the ink they have is as good or better than the mfg. give them a try I think you will be PLEASED

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