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Oct 10, 2016 05:23:29   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
I have been following the current topic on using Canon ink or ink from different manufactures for Canon Pixma Pro 100. I have been using various papers, such as Canon's pro platinum, glossy, luster, semigloss, and matte, along with Red River polar pearl metallic which I really like for some applications. My question is if different papers use more or less ink to print. The matte paper from Canon seems more porous, so does it suck up more ink. Just asking.

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Oct 10, 2016 07:05:55   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
Check Red River Paper Company or Moab paper. Both companies have good selections of paper types. I personally use a lot of Red River paper and have never had a problem. Just be sure to download their software to match with your printer it's free. Red River has a series of trial packets that are inexpensive that will allow you to try out different grades and types of paper.

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/
http://moabpaper.com/

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Oct 10, 2016 07:38:17   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
WayneT wrote:
Check Red River Paper Company or Moab paper. Both companies have good selections of paper types. I personally use a lot of Red River paper and have never had a problem. Just be sure to download their software to match with your printer it's free. Red River has a series of trial packets that are inexpensive that will allow you to try out different grades and types of paper.

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/
http://moabpaper.com/


This does NOT answer the poster's question. OP I don't have the Pro 100, but my Canon printer(MX 922) seems to use more ink with the coarser papers.

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Oct 10, 2016 07:41:22   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
jethro779 wrote:
This does NOT answer the poster's question. OP I don't have the Pro 100, but my Canon printer(MX 922) seems to use more ink with the coarser papers.


That's why I suggested he try the sample sets to see if he could find something a little less porous but still give him a matt finish.

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Oct 10, 2016 07:41:36   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
jethro779 wrote:
This does NOT answer the poster's question. OP I don't have the Pro 100, but my Canon printer(MX 922) seems to use more ink with the coarser papers.


Thanks, I have no way to determine this, but it was my feeling the coarser paper would use more ink. Bu it may not be significant.

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Oct 10, 2016 07:54:27   #
Armadillo Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Robert R wrote:
I have been following the current topic on using Canon ink or ink from different manufactures for Canon Pixma Pro 100. I have been using various papers, such as Canon's pro platinum, glossy, luster, semigloss, and matte, along with Red River polar pearl metallic which I really like for some applications. My question is if different papers use more or less ink to print. The matte paper from Canon seems more porous, so does it suck up more ink. Just asking.


Robert,

To the best of my knowledge paper type does not control how much ink the printer uses for a photographic print.

The type of photographic image, and the printer software, coupled with the print head determine how much ink will be consumed for a photograph. To some minor extent the type of paper selected at the moment of printing may use a fraction more ink, but that can be controlled by the user interface in the printer software.

Sometimes a print may come out all wet and runny looking, this is most likely caused by selecting a paper that is not compatible with the ink type. High gloss paper and matte paper should consume the same amount of ink for an identical photograph. The difference between the two papers is the final coating on the surface of the paper to cause it to be gloss, or light diffracting matte.

Michael G

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Oct 10, 2016 08:40:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Robert R wrote:
Thanks, I have no way to determine this, but it was my feeling the coarser paper would use more ink. Bu it may not be significant.


Doesn't the printer spit out a set amount of ink?
How would the printer know that the paper is absorbing more ink and it has to put out more???

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Oct 10, 2016 08:44:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Armadillo wrote:
Robert,

To the best of my knowledge paper type does not control how much ink the printer uses for a photographic print.

The type of photographic image, and the printer software, coupled with the print head determine how much ink will be consumed for a photograph. To some minor extent the type of paper selected at the moment of printing may use a fraction more ink, but that can be controlled by the user interface in the printer software.

Sometimes a print may come out all wet and runny looking, this is most likely caused by selecting a paper that is not compatible with the ink type. High gloss paper and matte paper should consume the same amount of ink for an identical photograph. The difference between the two papers is the final coating on the surface of the paper to cause it to be gloss, or light diffracting matte.

Michael G
Robert, br br To the best of my knowledge paper t... (show quote)



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Oct 10, 2016 09:38:20   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
Longshadow wrote:
Doesn't the printer spit o ut a set amount of ink?
How would the printer know that the paper is absorbing more ink and it has to put out more???


Before I print I have to set the type of paper that is being used.

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Oct 10, 2016 12:47:24   #
tsilva Loc: Arizona
 
yes, that is why you pick the paper type

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Oct 10, 2016 13:51:18   #
TomZ
 
Longshadow wrote:


On the Red River Paper website they have a lengthy discussion of the cost of making prints. As part of that they conducted some controlled experiments to measure ink consumption. In some of the tests they conducted the experiment twice; once with a satin/gloss finish paper and once with a matte finish paper. In these comparisons, there was a difference in the actual amount of ink consumed. Surprisingly, those that I read showed the matte paper took less ink to print the same test sheets. But mind you these tests were naturally being run with the ICC profiles installed for the paper being used, which is the way we should all do our printing.

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Oct 10, 2016 15:48:28   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
TomZ wrote:
On the Red River Paper website they have a lengthy discussion of the cost of making prints. As part of that they conducted some controlled experiments to measure ink consumption. In some of the tests they conducted the experiment twice; once with a satin/gloss finish paper and once with a matte finish paper. In these comparisons, there was a difference in the actual amount of ink consumed. Surprisingly, those that I read showed the matte paper took less ink to print the same test sheets. But mind you these tests were naturally being run with the ICC profiles installed for the paper being used, which is the way we should all do our printing.
On the Red River Paper website they have a lengthy... (show quote)


Tom Z. Thank you for doing the research for me on the Red River website. That was what I was looking for, but I had it figured wrong, thinking the matte paper would take more ink. After reading some of the comments on this website, I started using the Red River paper along with the Canon paper. I especially like the Polar Pearl Metallic, which gives stunning prints. I really appreciate your input.

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Oct 10, 2016 20:43:21   #
TomZ
 
Robert R wrote:
Tom Z. Thank you for doing the research for me on the Red River website. That was what I was looking for, but I had it figured wrong, thinking the matte paper would take more ink. After reading some of the comments on this website, I started using the Red River paper along with the Canon paper. I especially like the Polar Pearl Metallic, which gives stunning prints. I really appreciate your input.

Glad it helped! Someone directed me to Red River Paper years ago and I have been so impressed I now use them exclusively. I completely agree with your comments on. Polar Pearl Metalic. I printed an isolated red-sided chapel captured in a Yosemite snow field on that paper and it is one of my all time favorites.

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Oct 10, 2016 20:57:58   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
TomZ wrote:
Glad it helped! Someone directed me to Red River Paper years ago and I have been so impressed I now use them exclusively. I completely agree with your comments on. Polar Pearl Metalic. I printed an isolated red-sided chapel captured in a Yosemite snow field on that paper and it is one of my all time favorites.


I also use the Red River UltraPro Satin. My last two ink refills from Canon brought me a lot of "free" Canon paper of all sizes. Since my parents taught me not to waste things, I will also be using the Canon paper for a while.

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Oct 11, 2016 07:21:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Robert R wrote:
I have been following the current topic on using Canon ink or ink from different manufactures for Canon Pixma Pro 100. I have been using various papers, such as Canon's pro platinum, glossy, luster, semigloss, and matte, along with Red River polar pearl metallic which I really like for some applications. My question is if different papers use more or less ink to print. The matte paper from Canon seems more porous, so does it suck up more ink. Just asking.


Glossy paper is coated, so it uses less ink. Matte requires a bit more ink.

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