Nightski

I am curious about one thing concerning the crop sensor vs the full frame sensor for bird shooting. When I am shooting wildlife, I find that I am hard pressed to fill the frame with my bird. Considering that the pixels are more spread out on the full frame sensor, isn't it better to shoot birds with a crop sensor? Aren't the pixels more dense on the crop sensor? Doesn't that mean that the crop sensor gets better detail? Now I realize that the Mark VI has a 30.4 mp sensor so it's not really comparable, but the Mark II and Mark III are comparable. Thoughts on this??

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Nightski

...and check this out! You just can't ignore the fps on the 7DII .. it's huge ... I mean HUGE .. I use my 6D now and I press that continuous shutter and it's crazy how slow it is.

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SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

The reason the photog is unknown is because he froze to death shortly after the pic was snapped and wasn't fount till the thaw!!! LoL
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rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Then the answer is clear to me. If the OP wants a camera that does a great job at everything he will ever use it for, then the 1DX II is the answer. Its great for sports and wildlife and it's no slouch in the studio either. Sure it doesn't have 30 or 50 megapixels like some of the 5D series have but unless you're making wall size prints, who cares. All the OP's lenses will work and the biggest thing, next to the physical size of the camera, the bragging rights that come in the box with every 1DX II sold.

Nightski

Now lets look at the specs on that Sony...
42MP - impressive
5 fps? ... not for bird shooting my friend

and let me tell you something about that silent shutter and electronic viewfinder .. they eat battery like crazy. If you are out in the cold, you want your battery to last. I have never understood why bird shooters want silent shutter. If I get close to an eagle or bird of prey or any type of bird, the sound of my shutter freezes them and then it makes them tilt their heads in various ways to figure out what the sound is before they fly. There are countless times I've gotten the catchlights in a birds eye because of the sound of the shutter.

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rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

FF is better because the individual elements in the sensor are larger. The larger the individual elements, the more light they gather, the more light they gather the less amplification needed, the less amplification needed the cleaner the signal, the cleaner the signal the less digital noise which results in a cleaner image.

Nightski

Thank you for clearing that up for me Morrison .. well ... it is what it is .. there's no way I could have talked the hubby into a 1DX.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

My 2 cents worth... If a 1DX or even a 1DX II is conceivably in the budget, even if some sacrificing needs to be done, then I'd figure out a way of making it happen. I have a "camera stuff" fund that's separate from the household budget. I put funds into it when I can and I try to invest it wisely to help it grow. I've been able to afford a few cameras I probably shouldn't have bought but I saved specifically for them. I didn't need a 5DSr and at first I had no intension of buying one, but eventually I did and it's a great camera. I was the first one to order and take delivery of an 80D at the camera store I frequent for Canon stuff. Again, didn't need it, already have a 7DII but I use the 7DII mainly with a long lens for wildlife. The 80D is more my everyday camera, the it's pretty good at everything it does but not the best at anything, camera. I have designated my 70D as my wife's camera. I set it up in program mode, attach the EF 24-105 f/4L and she gets some pretty darn good pics with it. The 5DSr spends a lot of time on a tripod with a big lens attached. It's great for animal portraits and realistically, anything as long as it's in decent light and not moving to fast.

Point is, I didn't need any of then, well, maybe the 7DII, but I wanted them and I made sure I saved up the funds to get them. I currently have a 1DX II fund going. I was seriously looking at the new 5D IV but I've decided if I need lots a pixels, use the 5DSr; and in a few months or so maybe I'll have saved enough to get my dream camera, maybe, depends on how many creative new ways the wife comes up with to spend it. If the 1DX is something you really want and are going to use it if you get one, figure out a way to get it, you will be happy, and if your husband is anything like my wife's husband, making her happy makes me happy.

Bill_de Loc: US

My point was that there doesn't have to be a monetary interest for someone to strongly believe in something.

I said I didn't know that this was the case here. But we shouldn't always jump first to the negative possibilities.

We should all be happy and think positive thoughts.

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SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

By THAT, do you mean like throwing one of your young virgin daughters into the cauldron of a roiling volcano?!?!?
Yeah, I'd say he deserves a 1Dx!!!
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Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY

Mr.FT,

I know I am a little late to respond here, but here is my .02 for what its worth. I shoot Nikon, but get the Canon 5D MkIII, unless cost is not an object, then go for the MkIV. One of my good friends shoots Canon, and has had all of the 5D models as they have come out. He shoots mainly fire photos which can happen at all different times of the day and night, some landscapes, and other miscellaneous shoots. His gets excellent results with his Canon's. You can view his work, google fdphotounit and follow the link to his site. Plus, you already have Canon glass, so why would you want to go out and buy into a new system. Sony does not have anywhere near the lenses available that Canon has. I think that shop owner just wants to sell you a Sony. Also, you should be able to get a good deal on the 5D MKIII now the the 4 is out, unless as I said previously money is no object, then go for the 4.

Good luck.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Since all my daughters either have children or are pregnant, I guess I can kiss that 1Dx goodbye... drat...

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Life's a vitch and then you DIE!!!
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CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The news yesterday was DxO, who hates Canon, gave the 5D IV their highest rating for any Canon sensor. That is, the highest rating within the Canon line.

Abo

That can't be true because he was wearing more than
these 3 (good reasons to visit Siberia), and they survived.

'Tog unknown