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Jul 12, 2016 11:24:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
dfran wrote:
Add Stabil for ethanol to your gas cans that you use for your small engines, it's available at any Lowes/Home Depot store!



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Jul 12, 2016 11:37:42   #
Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN
 
dfran wrote:
Don't know where you got that idea....there are VERY few gas stations in Pa that sell non-ethanol gasoline.


According to the website recommended there are 124 stations in PA that offer non-ethanol gasoline. Maybe there are a few near you.

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Jul 12, 2016 11:46:02   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
It will eat the rubber in your gas lines and eat at the gasket in the carb.

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Jul 12, 2016 11:56:26   #
imageal Loc: Ocala, FL
 
Look for a RaceTrac gas station in your area. Here in Central Florida they do sell gas w/o Ethanol but it is more expensive. Also look for "Gas Stabilizer" in Home Depot which you can add to your gas with ethanol to balance it out.

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Jul 12, 2016 12:11:33   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's ridiculous! Return it! 10% ethanol is the standard now. If there's a warranty problem, they'll blame it on the fuel. I've had quite a few mowers over the years, and not one required non-ethanol fuel. What kind of mower is this?

http://wivb.com/2015/06/03/unleaded-regular-in-your-lawn-mower-could-be-doing-harm/


Between my brother and myself, we have 5 tractors, a 1954 Gravely, a 1956 Gravely, a 1972 Simplicity, a 1984 Cub Cadet given to a friend, a 2011 John Deer, a 2014 John Deer, a 12 year old lawn mower, a 1976 chain saw, a 1985 chainsaw, 2 old gas trimmers, and we put regular gas, whatever the Ethel content is. All this stuff still runs fine, and we don't drain the gas, or put stabilizer in. My lawnmower started on first pull after sitting all winter with regular gas in it. All this stuff runs fine, we rebuilt the engine on the '54 Gravely about 50 years ago, long before Ethel gas was around.
I rebuilt the chainsaw engine the first year I had it (1976), also before Ethel gas. It was a bear to start when new, and still is unless I prime it with ether.

I'm not saying don't use fuel additives, or don't drain your gas, all good things to do, but, my experience is as stated, so do your thing, but, I wouldn't get an ulcer worrying about it. BTW, my 93 year old next door neighbor repaired lawnmowers for a living, and he told me to always run the gas out, cause the old gas would turn gummy/varnish if left in the carburetor. I found he was wrong. My brother, who worked as a chemical engineer for Gulf Research in his youth said he was right, in the old days, but refineries put additives that ended that long ago. I found my brother to be right.

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Jul 12, 2016 12:30:44   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
PaulR01 wrote:
It is almost impossible to find Ethanol free gas when you really need it. I run all of my carburetor-ed engines with Sea Foam added to the tank with no issues. Lawnmower, Boat, 4 wheeler, edger, chainsaw.


what if he doesn't live close to the ocean??? LOL

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Jul 12, 2016 12:34:50   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
I have a Toro.

Thanks to all for your responses.


I have a Toro and if has a Briggs & Stratton engine. Yours probably does too.

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Jul 12, 2016 12:39:39   #
ad9mac
 
ad9mac wrote:
Usually find ethanol-free gas at a station that caters to boating. Live near a marina?


Your call.
My string trimmer or lawnmower want 89 octane. Reg gas is 87.
I've got a Marathon station about 5 mile away that has ethanol-free high test. Worth the trip for me.
And I add StaBil also.

Do as you wish.

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Jul 12, 2016 12:40:01   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Between my brother and myself, we have 5 tractors, a 1954 Gravely, a 1956 Gravely, a 1972 Simplicity, a 1984 Cub Cadet given to a friend, a 2011 John Deer, a 2014 John Deer, a 12 year old lawn mower, a 1976 chain saw, a 1985 chainsaw, 2 old gas trimmers, and we put regular gas, whatever the Ethel content is. All this stuff still runs fine, and we don't drain the gas, or put stabilizer in. My lawnmower started on first pull after sitting all winter with regular gas in it. All this stuff runs fine, we rebuilt the engine on the '54 Gravely about 50 years ago, long before Ethel gas was around.
I rebuilt the chainsaw engine the first year I had it (1976), also before Ethel gas. It was a bear to start when new, and still is unless I prime it with ether.

I'm not saying don't use fuel additives, or don't drain your gas, all good things to do, but, my experience is as stated, so do your thing, but, I wouldn't get an ulcer worrying about it. BTW, my 93 year old next door neighbor repaired lawnmowers for a living, and he told me to always run the gas out, cause the old gas would turn gummy/varnish if left in the carburetor. I found he was wrong. My brother, who worked as a chemical engineer for Gulf Research in his youth said he was right, in the old days, but refineries put additives that ended that long ago. I found my brother to be right.
Between my brother and myself, we have 5 tractors,... (show quote)



Bet the elbow in your bathing suit is wearing out too!

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Jul 12, 2016 13:54:42   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
If you use regular gasoline with ethanol in your lawn mower, be sure to run it dry so there is no fuel sitting in the carb or tank or lines when idol. The engine will run fine with the ethanol added fuel but it doesn't store well in these small machines; gums up the works, begins to dissolve some plastic and rubber parts, just not good to have it sitting, the mower, with ethanol blend fuel in it...


How very, very true!

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Jul 12, 2016 14:29:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DaveO wrote:
Some of the manufactures are recommending 89 octane,who the heck knows? I have to use high octane in my car at 50 cents a gallon more,so I use the 89 in Stihl,Honda,John Deere,Cub Cadet, I'm easy! The extra few bucks a year I could save could go to camera equipment,but my wife isn't that easy!


Everything I own with an engine specifies 87 octane - which makes things easier (and cheaper).

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Jul 12, 2016 14:30:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
foathog wrote:
what if he doesn't live close to the ocean??? LOL


Contact a UHH member who lives near the coast and ask him to send some. :D

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Jul 12, 2016 14:31:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
imageal wrote:
Look for a RaceTrac gas station in your area. Here in Central Florida they do sell gas w/o Ethanol but it is more expensive. Also look for "Gas Stabilizer" in Home Depot which you can add to your gas with ethanol to balance it out.


Have you noticed how most things get more expensive when they take something out?

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Jul 12, 2016 14:38:13   #
whitewolfowner
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
My new lawn mower says I should NOT use gasoline with ethanol.

I can't find anywhere that sells gasoline without ethanol.

What is the "harm" in using gasoline with ethanol?



Ethanol is NOT good for any engine. It reduces performance of an engine and destroys gas mileage too. Gasoline, if you put some on your fingers and feel it, you will notice that it has a slipperiness to it. Gas provides lubrication to the moving parts, especially in the upper part of the motor and in the cylinders. Ethanol does not provide this lubrication, thus the lowering of performance and gas mileage. It also shortens the life of engines too. Racers and auto engineers are violently against any ethanol in any gas at all. The whole idea is ludicrous from the beginning; another stupid move from the government which has no logic too it all and actually causes damage to our motors. Small engines have no extra engineering in them to attempt to compensate for the lack of lubricating from the ethanol, so they warn you against using it, but I'll bet the government won't let them tell you why.

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Jul 12, 2016 14:50:35   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Many gas station have non ethanol in their premium pumps. Where I live all Stewarts quick-rips have it. We get 10 more miles a gallon on non-ethanol- so we seek it out as we have to run premium anyways= the extra mileage practically pays for itself. Ethyl Alcohol in gas is just like dry gas added. It binds with water and allows the water to mix into the gasoline. Then the water basically runs through the engine rather than a layer of water floating on top of the gasoline- where if you get enough it can freeze etc. etc. You get water in tank when temp changes and moisture in air fogs the inside of your tank, it can then accumulate... why you needed to add some dry gas in the beginning of winter. The problem is not alcohol gumming up anything, but it can disolve non-metal seals, hoses and plastic etc. as alcohol is a powerful solvent to things it can react with. I suppose that residue can gum up tiny ports etc. Old engines never had to deal with alcohol... and any thing new should be built with resistant parts I would have to think. Non-ethanol burns way better and cleaner with more horsepower than the political football of adding expensive alcohol to the mix- in a small engine- it can make all the difference!.

How do i know all this! LOL there is an art connection. Denatured alcohol is used when necessary, in the cleaning of fine artworks, but not (just) for the alcohol cleaning properties... but for its water absorbing qualities allowing the use of water to clean water based stains etc., then making the water quickly evaporate ( due to the evaporative qualities of the alcohol that takes the water right along with it) before it can attack artwork or paper fibers... ie; you go in... clean the dirt etc., and then get out quick. :)

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