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May 21, 2012 11:50:35   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Festina Lente wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?


Jerry, Jerry, Jerry! For the fixed shape wing you described, it will indeed descend.
Now stop changing the subject before MWAC catches you and flies off the handle. :lol:


PLEASE do not attempt to belittle me, especially in threads I am not participating in, it makes you look like nothing more than a internet bully.

Pluse when have I ever told anyone to stay on topic? Gesh and people here wonder why I get upset and feel like I am picked on my certain members here, I don't even have to post in a thread to have people pick on me.... would you do this to anyother member here on this board? No of course not, but for some reason people seem to think I am fair game.... sorry I am not.

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May 21, 2012 12:07:50   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Regarding the aircraft wing there are two things at work to make it fly, the high/low pressure thing and the every action has an equal and opposite reaction thing.

If you don't believe in the high and low pressure effect lifting a surface try this. Take a piece of paper, like a plain old sheet of office copy paper and tear down the whole sheet, about a 1.5 inch thick strip. Now take this long narrow strip of paper and place it just under your bottom lip and hold it tightly in place with your fingers, letting the rest of it dangle below your chin.

Now begin to blow along the top surface of this paper, but very close to the paper's surface. As you increase your blowing speed the airspeed on top increases relative to the air below the paper strip. As the air speed on top increases it will create a lower pressure than the pressure of the air below the paper. As this happens the paper will lift, just as an aircraft wing begines to lift as speed increases.

When blowing hard enough and smooth enough, you will see the whole strip has now raised itself almost level as you blow along the top surface of the paper. This proves that the low pressure area will most definitely raise the wing of an aircraft and the angle of attack also helps the wing to climb with forward airspeed, so both effects help the wing to climb into the sky, not just one of them.

Just for info a 747 wing has less suction acting upon it's top surface, per sq. inch than a baby's suction on his/her bottle rubber nipple, when in flight (the wing not the baby). But there is a lot of sq. inches to that wing, don't forget.

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May 21, 2012 12:14:03   #
JerrysPhotos Loc: Arkansas
 
I would figure my cost to make the prints (Paper and Ink as a minimum) then add some for your time spent working on the photos. I also think you did a great job with the photo you posted. As a pilot, he probably wants the photo to look like it did when he took it, I would not change anything about the sun..... There is nothing worst than having someone print a photo for you and have them change it to make it look like what they think it should look like without asking you about it first, and you getting a photo that does not look like what you wanted or expected...

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May 21, 2012 12:33:19   #
AUminer Loc: Brandon, Ms
 
Flap orientation. Just the same as landing.
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?

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May 21, 2012 13:06:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
brokeweb wrote:
You can write it off as a charitable donation.

...only if he is a registered charity.

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May 21, 2012 13:42:00   #
CanonJC
 
Buddy Bob wrote:
To St3v3M & egnblack : I appreciate your patriotism. My Father served in the Korean war, I put 4 yrs in stateside, and my Son just finnished his 4th tour in Iraq, and "re-upped" for another 6. Unfortunately, Canon doesn't "give" me free paper & ink in "gratitude" for my families service. It cost me full price just like everyone else.


You can do is "Write Tax Off" for donoring to him.

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May 21, 2012 14:37:51   #
phishkillr Loc: Frostproof, Fl.
 
Just because he has some pictures of some aircraft, they think he was a pilot. He didn't say his Father was a pilot. It takes a lot more personnel to get the plane in the air than just the pilot. If he had a pictures of an aircraft carrier, they would think he was the captain. I would give him the pictures, and tell him to tell his Dad thank you....

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May 21, 2012 15:05:56   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
PlushToy wrote:
Buddy Bob wrote:
I have an associate who asked me if I could take some of his old photographs taken by his Father while in the Navy, and restore them. He has 2 B&W and 2 Color. He wants 4 "8x10" of all 4 of the originals and 2 "8x10" of each of the enhanced. A total of 24 "8x10". He also wanted me to copy them to a CD with both JPEGs and TIFFs. I used a Canon MG5220 to scan the originals, PSE 9 and Noise Ninja for the enhancements, and a Canon Pro9000 Mark II w/ Pro Platinum paper for the prints. I have 5 1/2 hours in the work. I've sold some "stock" work, but I haven't a clue as to how I should charge for this type of work. Any guidance towards a "fair price" from my fellow Hogs would be greatly appreciated. I've included a sample.
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There comes a time in everyone's life that we have to search inside our selves and do what we feel is right, I for one have done many things just out of the goodness of my heart, the rewards are what we make them to be.
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Goodness of heart = Cash out of pocket what value does one put on goodness of heart?

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May 21, 2012 15:07:33   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
brokeweb wrote:
If the guy insists that he pay you, just cover your expenses. You can write it off as a charitable donation. Or an even better trade, that releases a copyright license to you.

Just remember that this guy risked his life for you. You should take that into consideration.


The guy fulfilled his responsibility and duty to country, know for sure he wasn't thinking of you or anyo one other person. That sounds foolish

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May 21, 2012 15:08:02   #
CeeJay Loc: Southeast PA
 
Great job on the resto. Since you've already don the work..materials and a few bucks for time seems fair. Next time, price it first. (i.e. "how much did you want to spend?")

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May 21, 2012 15:08:12   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Buddy Bob wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Buddy Bob wrote:
He has plenty of money, whereas I'm looking for any means of additional income.

See? Everything is relative. He asked you to provide a service. I doubt if he expected you to do the work for free. If it was so simple, he could have done it himself.


Thanks Jerry. You seem to be the only one capable of "seeing the forest for the trees". His words.... "I'm willing to pay you whatever for your time and materials". I know what the materials cost "me" and that's all I will charge "him". 50 bucks for 5 1/2 hrs work, plus the cost of materials doesn't seem unreasonable to me, .... but I dare not ask anyone else's opinion. Thanks again for your time.
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We all know how much work it is to make old photos new again. Fifty bucks plus the price of the materials is fair price. And I'm going out on a limb myself and say this: Those with money are always looking for the cheapest way to get something done. He very likely thought you would do it for nothing and that's why he asked. Oh, and what is the definition of 'fair price'? ? Charge him what you want and don't feel guilty over it!
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:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 21, 2012 15:11:21   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Lucian wrote:
brokeweb wrote:
"Just remember that this guy risked his life for you. You should take that into consideration."

This is true therefore, he also did it for you as well, so why don't you consider sending a small cash donation to cover your gratitude as well, to the OP to help him with his expenses? That would seem the correct thing to do, because from your posting, that too should be taken into consideration.

Soldiers do risk their lives for the safety of the general public but so do some policemen and firemen but you do not see these people getting everything for free everywhere.

I am sure there is no one amongst us who does not feel thanks for all three of these occupations, but at the same time, we live in a world where we all must earn something to be able to survive (pay our biils and buy food) and therefore it is no insult to ask for payment for your time in doing a job for them, just as they do their job but also expect to be and get paid for doing it.

You are free to offer a discount but it does not have to be free and I'm sure most soldiers would not expect it to be free, if you were to ask them. They wish to come back into society as an equal not a worshipped god or icon. Therefore give them that respect.
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Thank you Lucian, well said

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May 21, 2012 15:13:15   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
MWAC wrote:
Festina Lente wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?


Jerry, Jerry, Jerry! For the fixed shape wing you described, it will indeed descend.
Now stop changing the subject before MWAC catches you and flies off the handle. :lol:


PLEASE do not attempt to belittle me, especially in threads I am not participating in, it makes you look like nothing more than a internet bully.

Pluse when have I ever told anyone to stay on topic? Gesh and people here wonder why I get upset and feel like I am picked on my certain members here, I don't even have to post in a thread to have people pick on me.... would you do this to anyother member here on this board? No of course not, but for some reason people seem to think I am fair game.... sorry I am not.
quote=Festina Lente quote=jerryc41 Aeordynamic q... (show quote)


yes mam

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May 21, 2012 15:20:57   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Holy Inversion! I came late to this discussion, and saw more flak than help. As to the question, charging for materials and time is a time-honored tradition. Is photography, or art in general, worth less than plumbing? [Oops, of course it is, but still........] So, I'd charge for the materials and whatever I think my time is worth, comparable to others. You show the skill, in my mind, worthy of $40-60 per hour. If this is your first time, ask for $225 and materials--check with your associate the way someone suggested earlier, sort of slipping into it, so there's no embarrassment.

As for the plane's inversion, I wonder if the position of the horizontal stabilizer and the thrust allow it to maintain more pressure on the "wrong" side of the wing to keep the monster in horizontal flight.

Gotta go use the flight bag.

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May 21, 2012 15:38:42   #
Barb Jewett
 
I am like you, mainly do it for a hobby but most people are willing to pay you for your time and abilities. Just tell him the hours you put into it and tell him to pay you what he thinks it's worth to him. You may be presently suprised of what he will give you. On the other hand you may receive a little less but this way you are at least getting paid something. Moving forward set a price per hour of editing and the cost per picture and give them the price list and then let them determine how many they would like to purchase from you. This way they aren't suprised when you hand them the bill.

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