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Jun 17, 2016 21:39:28   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
robertjerl wrote:
Ah, I must have spent too much time reading your posts and it rubbed off.


Again, attempts to blame others for your own behavior, misdirection, evasion....what else is new?

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Jun 17, 2016 21:47:54   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Keenan wrote:
Again, attempts to blame others for your own behavior, misdirection, evasion....what else is new?


Nothing, I am just copying your tactics.
However "There you go again!"

The longer we can keep you tied up on the keyboard the less time you will spend out in the public. We do it long enough and your state might give us a medal for public service and improving the other residents lives.

However I have to go to the store and run some other errands.

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Jun 17, 2016 22:07:32   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
robertjerl wrote:
Nothing, I am just copying your tactics.
However "There you go again!"

The longer we can keep you tied up on the keyboard the less time you will spend out in the public. We do it long enough and your state might give us a medal for public service and improving the other residents lives.

However I have to go to the store and run some other errands.



Keenan wrote:
"Again, attempts to blame others for your own behavior, misdirection, evasion....what else is new?"


Are you a right winger, by chance? You sure remind me of one, Robert. You have certainly memorized the "mommy, he did it first!" war cry of the right wing manchildren.

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Jun 18, 2016 09:37:15   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Keenan wrote:
No, your attempt to claim that my point about assault weapons being a relevant issue to how many potential victims there are, which also happens to be in keeping with the topic of this thread, is somehow "changing the narrative", is what is revisionism and your attempt to divert and misdirect. It is also bullshit. Fail. Try again.



As usual, your wrong, a revisionist, etc. Come on, man! You tried a revisionist attempt at your post and you got called in it.

Cowgirl up and move on, Keenan. You lose.

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Jun 18, 2016 10:19:08   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Keenan wrote:
Why is that? Re-read the topic of the thread. Here, I'll help you:

"Someone on Fox News actually has some intelligence about the assault weapon issue"

My comment was on topic to the thread, so why does that make it a sanctimonious barrel of laughs and uncalled for? You sure like to use a lot of big words that you don't understand the meanings of in order to spew your bullshit, don't you, Hondo?

Oh, and by the way. No one elected you the thread policeman.


But, then again, what else can one expect from an ammosexual such as yourself?
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Why is that? Re-read the topic of the thread. Here... (show quote)


You are mistaken. It is not a fetish for guns that keeps us going but a longing and a demand for Freedom.

Dennis

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Jun 18, 2016 10:41:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Keenan wrote:
Thank God he wasn't using a semi-automatic military style assault rifle with 100 round drums. Imagine how many people he could have mowed down when he "proceeded to shoot as many people as he could on the campus below and the nearby streets" in the same amount of time he spent having to load, aim, shoot, reload, aim, shoot, reload, aim, shoot, etc., with the hunting rifle? They only hold 3 rounds. Not dozens or hundreds.

Instead of killing a dozen people from the tower, he could have killed hundreds.

Thanks Robert for helping to make the case that yes, the firepower and lethality of the weapon makes a HUGE difference. You gun nuts may not care, but the hundreds of potential victims that were not killed that day due to the fact that Charles Joseph Whitman did not have a military assault rifle and just a hunting rifle certainly would tell you it makes a difference to them and their families..."
Thank God he wasn't using a semi-automatic militar... (show quote)


As usual you are totally wrong in your thoughts and in your facts. I own or have owned numerous types of hunting rifles. The only ones I know of that are limited to 3 shots are rifles used for African game or large game in America. The cartridges have a larger diameter than the usual hunting calibers such as 30-06, 270 or 257 Roberts. The larger calibers that might have a 3 shot magazine, but not necessarily, would be .338 Winchester Magnum, 416 Rigby or Weatherby, 505 Gibbs etc. Almost all rifles that shoot the first group of calibers mentioned have a 5 shot magazine. Even the older Winchester lever action rifles such as the 1892, 1894 or even the 1886 carry more than 3 cartridges in their tubular magazines. The original Henry rifle which evolved into other Winchester Lever action rifles was a 44 caliber which held sixteen cartridges, similar to the 20 round magazine of modern rifles.

The main reason that Whitman killed so few people is that there were only a few people that day. The M1 Carbine he used came with a 15 or 30 round magazine. The Remington Model 700 in 6mm Remington which holds 5 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber making it a 6 shot.

Please get your facts straight.

Dennis

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Jun 18, 2016 14:06:16   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You are mistaken. It is not a fetish for guns that keeps us going but a longing and a demand for Freedom.

Dennis


I sure hope you guys will give women the same freedom, the freedom of choice.

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Jun 18, 2016 14:26:29   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dljen wrote:
I sure hope you guys will give women the same freedom, the freedom of choice.



Donna,

That's a nice platitude, but I would encourage the normal left (I hope that includes you) to not isolate on the furthest right. It is my observation that out here, in Wisconsin, and in New Mexico, there are very few people who want to actively eliminate "abortion". However, I would say that close to everyone I know in the three places, including Dems and GOP, are dead set against late term abortions and most are against publicly funded abortions.

In other words, choice is there TO A POINT. I, for one, can't figure out why that's not good enough for,us all to move on outside of political division. I fact, how about our elected idiots get together and set the definition above for abortion and as a trade off get the backround checks and a reasonable "no fly" procedure????

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Jun 18, 2016 15:06:03   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
dljen wrote:
I sure hope you guys will give women the same freedom, the freedom of choice.


Of course we do Donna. You are free to choose to exercise your 2nd amendment rights and you are free to choose to abstain from exercising them. I might add that this applies to all citizens regardless of gender, race, religion, income level, or pretty much any other demographic indicator.

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Jun 19, 2016 11:48:51   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dljen wrote:
I sure hope you guys will give women the same freedom, the freedom of choice.


The freedom of choice to do what Donna? Can you be specific please? What is it that women can not do these days if they want to?

Dennis

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Jun 19, 2016 12:46:17   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The freedom of choice to do what Donna? Can you be specific please? What is it that women can not do these days if they want to?

Dennis


The freedom to decide what women want to do with reproductive rights. Republican men want to always regulate women...they haven't learned it's not their business.

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Jun 19, 2016 13:24:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dljen wrote:
The freedom to decide what women want to do with reproductive rights. Republican men want to always regulate women...they haven't learned it's not their business.


As I recall the SCOTUS has already ruled in favor of the right of women to do what they want with their body. My question to you is who speaks out on behalf of the rights of unborn babies? There are already some people, Liberals, who believe that if a woman gives birth to a baby girl and she REALLY wanted a boy then it is OK to end the life of the girl. I think but am not positive that this is already being done in China. I have seen on a television documentary that some babies, after being aborted, are still alive and would survive if cared for. They are then killed. Is that what you want?

It seems that our society is getting more and more permissive in that these days a woman can have indiscriminate sex knowing that there are no consequences for her actions. She doesn't have to worry about birth control at all, just have fun and if pregnant then abortion is the answer. Even knowing that a woman's rights are the normal now, is there no moral value in trying not to get pregnant to begin with? Or is morality only for the Conservatives among us?

Dennis

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Jun 19, 2016 14:17:17   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dljen wrote:
The freedom to decide what women want to do with reproductive rights. Republican men want to always regulate women...they haven't learned it's not their business.


You use such inclusive phrases that do little more than to define the narrowness of your thought. Firs, why should you give a fcuk what a republican guy thinks? Why limit it to guys? Why limit it to republicans? Have you seen the recent nationwide polls on the issue?

Having said that, there is virtually NO chance of the right to abortion going away. There IS, hopefully, a chance late term abortions will become illegal w/ exceptions.

Now, Donna, are you on of those psychos that believes a person has a right to abortion at any time they deem they want one, even partial birth abortions, for any reason? Do you actually think these type of abortions are NOT murdr? All just because they/you are a woman???????

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Jun 19, 2016 14:43:11   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
As I recall the SCOTUS has already ruled in favor of the right of women to do what they want with their body. My question to you is who speaks out on behalf of the rights of unborn babies? There are already some people, Liberals, who believe that if a woman gives birth to a baby girl and she REALLY wanted a boy then it is OK to end the life of the girl. I think but am not positive that this is already being done in China. I have seen on a television documentary that some babies, after being aborted, are still alive and would survive if cared for. They are then killed. Is that what you want?

It seems that our society is getting more and more permissive in that these days a woman can have indiscriminate sex knowing that there are no consequences for her actions. She doesn't have to worry about birth control at all, just have fun and if pregnant then abortion is the answer. Even knowing that a woman's rights are the normal now, is there no moral value in trying not to get pregnant to begin with? Or is morality only for the Conservatives among us?

Dennis
As I recall the SCOTUS has already ruled in favor ... (show quote)


There would be NO babies if the woman wouldn't carry it. It's the woman's right to choose and they will do it legally or illegally, just as you will do with your guns. Though, of course, it shouldn't be that way. A fetus has NO rights. A born child has rights.

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Jun 19, 2016 14:44:59   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Cykdelic wrote:
You use such inclusive phrases that do little more than to define the narrowness of your thought. Firs, why should you give a fcuk what a republican guy thinks? Why limit it to guys? Why limit it to republicans? Have you seen the recent nationwide polls on the issue?

Having said that, there is virtually NO chance of the right to abortion going away. There IS, hopefully, a chance late term abortions will become illegal w/ exceptions.

Now, Donna, are you on of those psychos that believes a person has a right to abortion at any time they deem they want one, even partial birth abortions, for any reason? Do you actually think these type of abortions are NOT murdr? All just because they/you are a woman???????
You use such inclusive phrases that do little more... (show quote)


Republican lawmakers are very confused with women's reproduction rights. No abortions are not murder, of course not. Why do you feel you should regulate women's bodies? Isn't your party against regulation?

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