Yup, Nikon disabled my Wasabi EN-EL15 knock offs
May 10, 2016 11:59:51 #
JCam wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with your distinctions. To me a "knock off" is a battery copy made by a manufacturer with no connection to the camera manufacturer. A battery made to the same specs, by the same manufacturer that makes the OEM batteries is a, presumably legit, private label brand. The problem is discovering which is which.
If you put a Autozone battery in a Chevy instead of a AC Delco do you consider the Autozone battery a knock-off?
May 10, 2016 12:02:48 #
JCam wrote:
I'm so glad I got rid of my Nikon and replaced it with a Canon with no associated problems!
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JCam - Of course, your image quality went down with the switch (Nikon to Canon), but Im sure you think your pics now look much better. When are you planning your next brand switch?
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May 10, 2016 12:20:49 #
quixdraw wrote:
Wasabi batteries have been great, but the chargers are even better. They are smaller than Nikon and have a built in plug so no cord. They come with a European and Auto adapters as well (I have never used those). Best of all, they have an indicator light that changes from red to green when charge is complete. The price is certainly right!
Sounds like my Canon charger.
May 10, 2016 12:22:15 #
RichardSM wrote:
Actually Wasabi battries for the 5DMk3, 7D, 7DMk2,ect (LP-E6) are coded battery's and work with no restrictions and are longer lasting then the OEM's from Canon I have used them now for a few years, I recommend them as a best alternative for the price!
I have a couple of Wasabi EN-EL-18's and a couple of stock models for my D4...Wasabi's win, the Nikon versions are backup. Been reading the horror stories about this problem for awhile, but not before I bought a couple of EN-EL15's for the D500 that hasn't arrived yet. Oh, well, I've got a bunch for my D800 now!
May 10, 2016 13:57:56 #
billwassmann wrote:
Nikons, Canons, I use a Sony. And if they still made Kodachrome I'd probably still use my old Pentax K1000.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Me too! (on the Kodachrome)! Boy do I miss that stuff!!!
May 10, 2016 14:15:20 #
cjc2 wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Me too! (on the Kodachrome)! Boy do I miss that stuff!!!
I miss Ecktacolor.
May 10, 2016 15:13:11 #
phlash46 wrote:
That's what you get for using Japanese horseradish instead of a battery... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Actually, it's the sashimi with the Wasabi that get's caught in the battery contacts that causes the problem. :twisted:
May 10, 2016 15:17:30 #
hangman45 wrote:
If you put a Autozone battery in a Chevy instead of a AC Delco do you consider the Autozone battery a knock-off?
Not a good analogy!
Battery technology whether you are buying a replacement Gel Cell, AGM, the old style flooded wet cell, or maintenance free battery, the technology is pretty much standard these days so as long as you are buying a recognized name they are all about of equal quality within the type classifications and expected life rating.
Since I'm pretty sure AC Delco doesn't make batteries, and I know Chevy doesn't, what ever brand Chevy puts in is made for, sold to and labeled for Chevy, GM or AC Delco thus are privately labeled. We know the OEM battery is of at least reasonable quality because they want it to outlast the guarantee.
What we don't know is who made the private label. When it dies, do you go back to the Dealer for an AC Delco or to the local battery shop (or even Wal-mart) for the replacement where for probably less money you can get an equal of better battery than the OEM. If it has the shop's name on it, it is a private label; if it has some strange name you should be able easily to ask or find out the name of the manufacturer. If it is not forthcoming it is probably a copy and may not be an equal. That is not true of unknown name camera batteries from the Orient.
May 10, 2016 15:33:42 #
JCam wrote:
Not a good analogy! br br Battery technology whe... (show quote)
Actually Wasabi is a well respected name that has been around for a long time and has a very good reputation. The batteries in the camera are not much different than the car battery in the sense that the same technology has been used for years as long as quality cells are used they are safe and some brands out perform the OEM. None of the camera brands manufacture they own batteries and we have no idea who does it for them at least when buying Wasabi or Watson batteries we no who made them.
May 10, 2016 15:36:30 #
JCam wrote:
Not a good analogy! br br Battery technology whe... (show quote)
For years AC Delco was OEM for Chevy and Motorcraft was OEM for Ford neither were made by Ford or Chevy.
Reminds me of all the Harley riders that insist on using inferior products just because they are Harley Branded even after it being proven they are by far not the best.
May 10, 2016 15:41:55 #
JCam wrote:
Not a good analogy! br br Battery technology whe... (show quote)
I wasn't disputing Wasabi's quality, but only addressing the difference between Private Label, "Knock Off", & OEM brands; and since automotive battery technology has long since passed beyond the Patent restrictions, his analogy was not really appropriate.
May 10, 2016 15:51:40 #
I'm not! I had used Canons for years and thought that having just retired, I'd treat myself to what 'everyone' said was the best. This was the first Nikon I bought; I should have stayed with Canon.
May 10, 2016 16:32:49 #
So here we see a less-than edifying spectacle: hogs who so cleverly circumvent and deprecate Nikons recommended (https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/322 ) use of its own Nikon products, as in batteries.
Buying non-compliant camera products is not in your global interest, for obvious reasons. Nor is this worst practice in your personal interest:
(1) You cannot know if a problem is due to non-adherence of a third party to Nikon quality standards; see case study, below
(2) You are increasing the risk of untoward substances migrating into your household
I have experience with anti-counterfeiting mechanisms for contract manufacturing that protect printers from third-party ink. So, I have long wondered why Nikon has not protected itself from third-party [sic] batteries and lenses, as the thwarting technology -- asynchronous encryption -- and its financial benefits are long-since established.
Case study, happening now: I have only Nikon batteries on two Nikon cameras. And I have a new problem: battery drains slowly when camera is off. Problem happens with both D810 batteries and only on my D810, so I know to suspect this camera, not the batteries. If Id had third-party batteries, I could not form this conclusion and act on it.
In short, choose any and all genuine recommended third parties/knockoffs -- LoL.
Hint for Nikon: Think chain of custody for components. It is in your future.
Buying non-compliant camera products is not in your global interest, for obvious reasons. Nor is this worst practice in your personal interest:
(1) You cannot know if a problem is due to non-adherence of a third party to Nikon quality standards; see case study, below
(2) You are increasing the risk of untoward substances migrating into your household
I have experience with anti-counterfeiting mechanisms for contract manufacturing that protect printers from third-party ink. So, I have long wondered why Nikon has not protected itself from third-party [sic] batteries and lenses, as the thwarting technology -- asynchronous encryption -- and its financial benefits are long-since established.
Case study, happening now: I have only Nikon batteries on two Nikon cameras. And I have a new problem: battery drains slowly when camera is off. Problem happens with both D810 batteries and only on my D810, so I know to suspect this camera, not the batteries. If Id had third-party batteries, I could not form this conclusion and act on it.
In short, choose any and all genuine recommended third parties/knockoffs -- LoL.
Hint for Nikon: Think chain of custody for components. It is in your future.
May 10, 2016 16:45:28 #
May 10, 2016 17:38:27 #
I went to mirror less Olympus cameras I am using a Watson battery in them and have had no problems--I waited a lot of years for the D500 the upgrade to my D300 I am passing on it --love the mirror less--Sorry Nikon you are too late with the upgrade for me. I went on to different cameras
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