norman1312 wrote:
Yes, I know that, but I think the main question hasn't been answered.
Why does the camera NEED a pop up flash?
The question has been answered. It has been said that there are cameras that don't have a pop-up flash (the Df for example); so, a camera does not NEED a pop-up flash. If your camera has one, use it for fill light, or don't.
My Hasselblad 500C did not come with a pop-up flash either. One deals with it.
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
I'd be very surprised of you can't go to the menu and shut off the flash. I could on my old D 60 and I can on my D 750 and even on my Ricoh GXR.
SteveR wrote:
It comes in handy for fill flash.
^This.
In an emergency you can dial down the power of the pop up, to avoid the prison line up look, and simply use it for some fill.
Shooting in manual mode will solve the problem with the flash popping up.
AlMac
Loc: Newcastle Upon Tyne - UK
norman1312 wrote:
Yes, I know that, but I think the main question hasn't been answered.
Why does the camera NEED a pop up flash?
It has.
GoofyNewfie answered the question for you.
In "commander mode", the pop up flash can be used to control your off camera speedlights.
Unless I'm mistaken, the flash will pop up only when in Auto mode. There is also an Auto mode on the dial that does not allow it to pop up. If you use that, though, you can't select A, S, or M.
PhotosBySteve wrote:
Shooting in manual mode will solve the problem with the flash popping up.
DO NOT USE AUTO MODE!!!
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ABJanes
Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
Shoot in Manual and the flash will not pop up.
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
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You asked why have them? Most only consider the red eye or flatness from a photo with the on board. If you and others would learn of to to use it. It's another tool in your photo arsenal.
Have you ever taken pictures of:
Back lit subjects
Nature
Cars
Speciality items
Items needing specular highlights
Items with a cross hatch filter to get a nice twinkle effect in the day.
Even for a trigger to other flashes.
How about if I ask if you have ever experimented with your camera? Ever try to take it to the next degree?
Most have not and all they can say is the on board is junk. Most can only tell you, you need this and that fancy equipment. Why, because it's the easy way out. It only costs money for new toys!
Open your mind and you'll find that little on board flash is a great addition that comes free on most dslr's!
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
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There will be times when light is so low that the camera will, in order to keep the shutter speed fast enough to hand hold, pop up the flash to give more light. Otherwise the image would be blurry. If you were doing the same shot on a tripod, you would select the NO Flash setting to continue. If the camera is in the "flash assist" mode, the flash will popup anytime the camera thinks it will be useful for a good shot.
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
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If you have your camera set to auto mode the flash will automatically pop up. Any other mode it will not pop up. I am able to to disable mine. Check your manual. Even in the program mode it will not pop up unless you manually pop up the flash. Sounds like a camera setting to me.
Now for the second part of your question. I like my pop up flash because I was going to take some picture of my grandson in a play. Set out my speedlight but went off and left it. There was not enough available light so a flash was required. Wonder if the flash would be strong enough but I was able to boost up the ISO and the flash worked great even at a long distance.
my understanding is that the popup may not pop up if you use the manual mode or aperture or shutter priority mode or program mode.the pop up flash is not the ideal speed light to have.it is better to have a external flash.but in an emergency when you do not have access to external flash,one can use it for portrait photography realizing its limited flash range and flash output.you can cover the pop up flash with a toilet paper to act as a diffuser for portrait photos,joseph
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
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No different than a self timer, tripod socket, neckstrap lugs, etc. If you don't want to use it, don't. Your user's manual will tell you how to turn it off.
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