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May 1, 2016 08:01:06   #
norman1312 Loc: London, UK
 
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?

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May 1, 2016 08:07:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
My camera has a "disable flash" button.

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May 1, 2016 08:14:10   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
There has to be a flash mode in your camera's menu. Simply turn it off.
Check those instructions again. If still having problems and if I were you I would contact Nikon.

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May 1, 2016 08:33:03   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Duct Tape.

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May 1, 2016 08:38:46   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.

I agree, the light from the pop-up flash is pretty useless, but with some of Nikon's higher-end bodies,it can be used to control (not just trigger) multiple remote flashes.
In the menu system you would set the pop-up to "commander" mode and your speedlights to remote.

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May 1, 2016 08:42:45   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Buy a Df---no flash or video.

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May 1, 2016 08:45:43   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Buy a Df---no flash or video.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 1, 2016 08:54:11   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thi... (show quote)


My camera gives ME the choice: the pop-up is separate from the camera. It doesn't weigh very much, so I keep it in my camera bag, but in the two years I've had the camera I've only used the pop-up flash once.
It does use the hot-shoe, so to use a "real" flash, the pop-up has to be removed.
(Camera is Oly OM-D E-M1)

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May 1, 2016 09:19:39   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
My Nikons have a 'no flash' option on the main dial.

Sarge69

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May 1, 2016 10:46:48   #
norman1312 Loc: London, UK
 
sarge69 wrote:
My Nikons have a 'no flash' option on the main dial.

Sarge69


Yes, I know that, but I think the main question hasn't been answered.

Why does the camera NEED a pop up flash?

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May 1, 2016 11:02:29   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
norman1312 wrote:
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thing suddenly stuck me.
Just WHY does a DSLR need a pop-up flash?
I can understand P&S cameras need a flash as they may not have anywhere to put a speedlight of any sort.
I ran a pair of FE's for over 25 years (!) and if I needed it I used a 'real' flash to get the result I wanted.
I can remember using the pop up on both the 5700 and the D90 provided I was close enough to the action but the result was really only 'so so'. I was using a photo shop's own brand for a while but was not satisfied with the result, so |I got an SB900. That sorted the problem out.
But still whatever the mode that pop up will pop up for no obvious reason. Its a pain when you have the aperture/speed to your liking and that happens! As far as I can see it's not supposed to do that. I can't find anything in the menu to stop it popping up, what have I missed?
Still getting to grips with the D7200, and one thi... (show quote)


The pop-ups are life savers in many situations. You always have light with you. If you're a pro, just spend the extr $500 for a real flash and $300 for an off-camera bracket, no problem, but not everybody can afford that.
Unfortunately today's dslr's are way to complex for the average person to figure out how to operate. You should get a P&S, might suit you better!! :lol:
SS

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May 1, 2016 11:04:14   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
It comes in handy for fill flash.

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May 1, 2016 11:22:58   #
norman1312 Loc: London, UK
 
SharpShooter wrote:
You should get a P&S, might suit you better!! :lol:
SS


No way, been there, done that. Never again. Been using SLR's for about 30 years before the transition to D.
Not going to look back, I will tame this beast. Depends on how many years I've got left.

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May 1, 2016 11:53:34   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
The pop-up is not the best flash but it's there in an emergency. Since it's fairly close to the lens, red-eye is a problem. And the flash doesn't have much power.

I use speedlights that connect to the hotshoe. The light is separated further from the lens axis so red-eye is reduced, and the speedlight has more power. My speedlights can be rotated to bounce the light from the ceiling or a nearby wall, either of which will provide softer light and reduce harsh shadows.

The one thing the pop-up is good for is controlling an off-camera flash.

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May 1, 2016 12:15:19   #
dandi Loc: near Seattle, WA
 
SteveR wrote:
It comes in handy for fill flash.


:thumbup: I usually dial flash exposure compensation down and get decent results. It could be useful in other situations as well.

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