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Apr 24, 2016 09:01:52   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Billyspad wrote:
.....Insight and appreciation gained from experience is a fact......


So we're agreeing to agree? Good. The use/misuse of the term "photographer" is another subject for another day.

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Apr 24, 2016 09:17:27   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
minniev wrote:
I think this is a worthy discussion to pursue, and Linda's nice image is a good example. Whether we should pursue it here or elsewhere is debatable. But: How much have all of us bought into the classic 500px landscape shot as the required formula? (saturated colors, low angle with foreground anchor, dramatic sky, distinct and powerful elements in fore, mid, background, preferably long exposure with milky water somewhere, etc.)

I confess that Marc Adamus's early work was one of the strongest draws that got me interested in landscape photography. At the time, his approach was unique and attention grabbing. Now it has become the norm, and for me even the strongest and most dramatic of these formula images don't grab me like they once did and I find the less formulaic work of Bill Neill, David Chauvin, Guy Tal and Floris van Bruegel more interesting.

I wonder if what the next trend will be?
I think this is a worthy discussion to pursue, and... (show quote)


I never go to 500px so cannot comment about how attention grabbing they may be. But as I understand it many people on there sell their work and are awarded points by viewers? To sell items have to be attention grabbing in some way or other.
Whatever ones views on the picture posted here which kicked off this discussion I think if I was a gallery owner needing to justify wall space via sales it would probably struggle to get hung. A generalization yes but a very valid one I feel. It does not make it a bad picture but a tad plain and a little boring is always going to struggle against a canvas brimming with impact.
That's probably why you do not see stuff like this on 500px and are unlikely to in future. The same would hold true for a photo contest of any description. Do not bet your mortgage payment on it winning. Given the time judges are given to look at work then even if its technically superb and has well hidden points worth noting the lack of visual impact are likely to see it overlooked.
Is it the era for connoisseurs images? Fraid not.

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Apr 24, 2016 09:23:41   #
Dave Chinn
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Shot for the light, processed for a serene mood. Is there an audience for understated and gentle moments in nature such as this?


Linda, it appears you have reached your goal to acquire a serene mood with this image. I, only on occasion shoot landscape but can appreciate what others have shot as landscape photographers. I say photographers only because using the term snappers would only be an insult to those who have a higher self image of themselves and want to improve their skills. That is another subject though, so I won't go any further on that issue.

Most, at times we don't look in depth at an image and I for one have been guilty of. However, your image requires and deserves the recognition for one to explore throughout to really appreciate it. Which I have and applaud you for your efforts which turned out quite nicely.
Dave

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Apr 24, 2016 09:29:52   #
Dave Chinn
 
minniev wrote:
I think this is a worthy discussion to pursue, and Linda's nice image is a good example. Whether we should pursue it here or elsewhere is debatable. But: How much have all of us bought into the classic 500px landscape shot as the required formula? (saturated colors, low angle with foreground anchor, dramatic sky, distinct and powerful elements in fore, mid, background, preferably long exposure with milky water somewhere, etc.)

I confess that Marc Adamus's early work was one of the strongest draws that got me interested in landscape photography. At the time, his approach was unique and attention grabbing. Now it has become the norm, and for me even the strongest and most dramatic of these formula images don't grab me like they once did and I find the less formulaic work of Bill Neill, David Chauvin, Guy Tal and Floris van Bruegel more interesting.

I wonder if what the next trend will be?
I think this is a worthy discussion to pursue, and... (show quote)


Minnie I would consider that to be growth. When we start seeing photos the same ..... that is when we usually start to explore and seek for something more.
Dave

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Apr 24, 2016 09:37:31   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
Soothing in the morn,
Away hustle and bustle,
Let soft light touch me.

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Apr 24, 2016 10:24:42   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks so much, Minnie. As a companion image, here was the view in the other direction (Mt Adams + moonset). I had a bit of an epiphany recently, after reading an article on authenticity - being true to yourself in your photography.

These are the scenes that make me happiest, and I'm curious about how others see the slick huge-wow-factor images so prevalent on 500px, and in magazines such as Outdoor Photographer, vs. the less dramatic or contemplative. I'm finding more and more that I am not impressed by those supposedly once-in-a-lifetime shots.

I'm going to start a discussion topic soon, but we can talk about here also :)
Thanks so much, Minnie. As a companion image, here... (show quote)


Linda

I personally prefer this shot to the first one you post. It seems once again I am going against others reactions to your first shot. To me the first one has too "much sky". I would have cropped out a bit of it and focused more on the shadows and plants. But than again this is just my opinion, and so take it for what it's worth.

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Apr 24, 2016 10:36:44   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Shot for the light, processed for a serene mood. Is there an audience for understated and gentle moments in nature such as this?


It is a wonderful shot. And I think there is another one as well. I would have liked to have seen a close up of the yellow flowers as the foreground, the bushes in back as mid and the clouds as back.

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Apr 24, 2016 10:55:11   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Dave Chinn wrote:
Linda, it appears you have reached your goal to acquire a serene mood with this image. I, only on occasion shoot landscape but can appreciate what others have shot as landscape photographers. I say photographers only because using the term snappers would only be an insult to those who have a higher self image of themselves and want to improve their skills. That is another subject though, so I won't go any further on that issue.

Most, at times we don't look in depth at an image and I for one have been guilty of. However, your image requires and deserves the recognition for one to explore throughout to really appreciate it. Which I have and applaud you for your efforts which turned out quite nicely.
Dave
Linda, it appears you have reached your goal to ac... (show quote)


Thank you, Dave! I very much appreciate your time and thoughtful comments.

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Apr 24, 2016 10:56:00   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
pfrancke wrote:
Soothing in the morn,
Away hustle and bustle,
Let soft light touch me.


Exquisite and emotional. Thank you for this amazing gift, Piet.

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Apr 24, 2016 10:57:16   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
NJFrank wrote:
Linda

I personally prefer this shot to the first one you post. It seems once again I am going against others reactions to your first shot. To me the first one has too "much sky". I would have cropped out a bit of it and focused more on the shadows and plants. But than again this is just my opinion, and so take it for what it's worth.


Everyone should feel free to express their own opinion in a thoughtful and respectful manner, Frank. I appreciate your time and comments!

A big sky makes me feel more free and unrestrained, that there are wide open spaces to explore and enjoy :)

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Apr 24, 2016 10:59:42   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Mark7829 wrote:
It is a wonderful shot. And I think there is another one as well. I would have liked to have seen a close up of the yellow flowers as the foreground, the bushes in back as mid and the clouds as back.


Thanks so much for your feedback, Mark. I'm pleased you enjoyed!

That is one viewpoint I didn't think to explore. I do have this close-up of another grouping, though: textures, light, a bit of motion

Looks much better in download :)
Looks much better in download :)...
(Download)

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Apr 24, 2016 12:12:01   #
fuminous Loc: Luling, LA... for now...
 
Lots of lazy horizontals and shrubbery bumps, balanced in color and visual weight, lights and darks and warms and cools- contentedly saturated, with eye-popper yellow freckles just to say all are awake. Really nice Linda- has a western painter’s school feel… cropped just right…

Linda From Maine wrote:
Shot for the light, processed for a serene mood. Is there an audience for understated and gentle moments in nature such as this?

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Apr 24, 2016 12:17:58   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks so much for your feedback, Mark. I'm pleased you enjoyed!

That is one viewpoint I didn't think to explore. I do have this close-up of another grouping, though: textures, light, a bit of motion


Yes but no .. I wasn't suggesting a crop but rather the next time you see this arrangement, think, foreground, mid and back or 3 parts. With a foreground element you add a focused point of interest and scale. Regardless, wonderful light, hues and tones. Yes, it is a compelling image with an emotional appeal.

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Apr 24, 2016 12:27:39   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
fuminous wrote:
Lots of lazy horizontals and shrubbery bumps, balanced in color and visual weight, lights and darks and warms and cools- contentedly saturated, with eye-popper yellow freckles just to say all are awake. Really nice Linda- has a western painter’s school feel… cropped just right…


Thank you for your delightful descriptions, fuminous! Yellow freckles particularly tickles me :) I'm so glad you enjoyed and very much appreciate your comments.

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Apr 24, 2016 12:29:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Mark7829 wrote:
Yes but no .. I wasn't suggesting a crop but rather the next time you see this arrangement, think, foreground, mid and back or 3 parts. With a foreground element you add a focused point of interest and scale. Regardless, wonderful light, hues and tones. Yes, it is a compelling image with an emotional appeal.


Thanks again, Mark. I found another with the three parts you describe, but I was facing a little more towards the sun and the clouds aren't as wispy and gentle as #1. Your advice is much appreciated!

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