Windows computer VS Mac
Apr 21, 2016 13:23:56 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
Sinewsworn wrote:
Another sometimes huge issue (especially when your computer is being attacked) are the relative prevalence of virus attacks computers running Windows suffer. Had one detected virus since switching to a iMac September 2013.
One of the reasons hackers go after Macs less is because the user base is so much smaller and it is a much more closed environment. A controlled environment has certain advantages, but it also has certain disadvantages
Apr 21, 2016 13:35:25 #
mwsilvers wrote:
Agree. It was never meant for, nor is it appropriate for, mission critical networked enterprise applications. In the right hands, and for the uses it was designed for, it can be very useful.
I used a program before Access came out, and for me it was much better and easier to work with. But I believe is Microsoft bought them out.
Apr 21, 2016 14:27:31 #
Geegee wrote:
Has anyone switched from a Mac to a Microsoft Windows computer and why?
For photo editing, I went the other way. Through good fortune, a friend of mine was going to sell his iMac 27". He gave me a very good price on it. I haven't looked back at all. I even ported some software I wrote a few years ago so that it would run on the Mac.
I still use the Windoze systems for some very select tasks, but they are far from image oriented. In addition, I use them for image backups.
--Bob
Apr 21, 2016 14:37:03 #
Geegee - There's a reason Windows has always dominated the PC scene by huge percentages....say 95% Windows users vs. 5% Mac users. And, that reason is available software. Software mfrs build software for Windows because that's where the money and the usage is. For too long, Apple refused to open its system to software mfrs, so the mfrs made their product only for Windows.
Arguably, Macs ran a nice system, but its limits were too narrow, so would-be PC users gravited to Windows.
I've used Windows PCs from the very beginning, and have enjoyed an almost unlimited trip through the cyberworld.
Arguably, Macs ran a nice system, but its limits were too narrow, so would-be PC users gravited to Windows.
I've used Windows PCs from the very beginning, and have enjoyed an almost unlimited trip through the cyberworld.
Apr 21, 2016 14:56:20 #
DesertRat71
Loc: Arizona
Cdouthitt wrote:
...personally I'd just swear at it if I had to use a PC again.
That's what I was doing at my Mac over the summer of last year. I was cruising along happily with my 27" iMac (late 2009)...then I made the near-fatal mistake of installing Mavericks, a supposed "upgrade" to the OS. The system was suddenly unstable, prone to spontaneous reboots, incomplete boots and when the boot did complete it took in excess of 20 minutes. A proprietary OS running on proprietary hardware.
I was in the process of planning for a move back to Windows when I did a "succeed or die" installation of Yosemite. Yosemite fixed the major problems that had been introduced by Mavericks but a cold boot still takes longer than 5 minutes with 32 GB of memory. My Windows 7 machine at work is much faster.
Life was good up through Snow Leopard. Regardless, as things stand I'll get a new iMac before I go back to Windows.
Apr 21, 2016 15:01:14 #
romanticf16
Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
shelty wrote:
I was looking at a Mac the other day. It looked be... (show quote)
And that 5 k screen gets it's fast response by shallow sRGB color depth.The iMac isn't the platform too look at for heavy duty computing anyway;it would be a Mac Pro- the Circular Tower. And you could spec and build either OS from parts cheaper than buying ready made-you'd provide the design and assembly labor,and warranty any problems yourself.
Apr 21, 2016 15:14:58 #
romanticf16 wrote:
About the only people who advocate a switch for legitimate reasons have a IT background; build their own machines; and understand all the latest cutting edge hardware AND need a system to support a network or do serious video and photo PP.
https://photographylife.com/the-ultimate-pc-build-for-photography-needs#more-115410
https://photographylife.com/the-ultimate-pc-build-for-photography-needs#more-115410
The above website lists recommended components suitable for photographic post-processing.
The author winds up by saying:
"Not bad for an under $2K PC! If you are wondering how this would compare to a Mac, it will obliterate pretty much any Mac out there, with the exception of some Mac Pro models in terms of processing power (Xeon vs Core i7). Overall though, even the best Mac Pros wont stand a chance against the above configuration (expect to pay $5K+ for a high-end Mac Pro)."
Can anyone substantiate an argument against these findings?
Apr 21, 2016 15:25:03 #
romanticf16
Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
DesertRat71 wrote:
That's what I was doing at my Mac over the summer ... (show quote)
Try a "Safe Boot"-hold the Shift key down and hit restart, hold it until after you hear a gong(time your restart). That is Apple extensions only. It should we faster. If not ,then I'look at how full your main internal drive is. You need at least 20% free space on the drive for it to function properly, more is better. How many programs do you keep open at startup? How cluttered is your desktop? The 5 minute startup may be due to poor management and maintenance. When is the last time you repaired permissions on each of your drives? Have you done all the updates to the OS as they are released? Do you empty the trash and empty your download folder occasionally? Just asking.
Apr 21, 2016 16:14:12 #
DesertRat71
Loc: Arizona
romanticf16 wrote:
Try a "Safe Boot"-hold the Shift key dow... (show quote)
1TB hard drive is at 74% (I keep a tight reign on it since it holds my photographs). Items are deleted from Downloads when they're installed or moved out of there if they're not installable programs. Trash is emptied every time I see something in it. Permissions are no longer an issue since the El Capitan update: http://www.imore.com/say-goodbye-repairing-file-permissions-el-capitan I should have mentioned that I installed that too. Prior to that I checked and fixed them monthly. I've even reset the PRAM.
Whatever is happening happens after the machine comes up (wallpaper is visible) and before applications are loaded. There's a lot of hard drive activity during that interval.
Apr 21, 2016 18:09:46 #
NewBEE161
Loc: Olney, Maryland
Was a long time PC Windows user, but tired of the blue screen of death. Five years ago, switched to a Mac desktop with a 27" monitor. Also installed "Parallels" so I could run PC software, too. I have the best of both worlds!
Apr 21, 2016 18:29:19 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Geegee wrote:
Has anyone switched from a Mac to a Microsoft Windows computer and why?
I used both for years. Used Windows only because a specialized software used at my employer's office was Windoze-only. I now use Windows 7.
My experience was/is that the Mac system is far superior and that claimed price savings for Windoze are illusory, compared to the Windoze needing more tech support, and being a miserable kludge.
As one expert said, "You can do anything with Windows that you can do with a Mac. It just takes longer, is clumsier, and is sometimes a miserable experience."
Apr 21, 2016 18:33:22 #
DesertRat71
Loc: Arizona
Geegee wrote:
The author winds up by saying:
"Not bad for an under $2K PC! If you are wondering how this would compare to a Mac, it will obliterate pretty much any Mac out there, with the exception of some Mac Pro models in terms of processing power (Xeon vs Core i7).
Can anyone substantiate an argument against these findings?
The author winds up by saying:
"Not bad for an under $2K PC! If you are wondering how this would compare to a Mac, it will obliterate pretty much any Mac out there, with the exception of some Mac Pro models in terms of processing power (Xeon vs Core i7).
Can anyone substantiate an argument against these findings?
There are no findings, only opinions and conjecture. No comment on bus speed, swap file size, swap file page size (the data chunk being read/written), swapping algorithms which differ by OS, efficiency of I/O controller, computer language in which the application is written (language efficiency/effectiveness/speed is largely dictated by its compiler and compiler output differs by OS as well as the abilities of the software engineers who write the code). There are more factors involved in computer performance than just CPU speed and memory. Other than the CPU chart no real-life comparisons are presented, no clock time of load, no benchmarks of application switching, etc.. In other words, no apples to apples comparisons.
I've enjoyed Mansurov's photography articles in the past. This one felt a bit gratuitous, especially given the shots he takes at Apple. And what...no mention of Linux?
Apr 21, 2016 18:41:18 #
Geegee wrote:
Has anyone switched from a Mac to a Microsoft Windows computer and why?
I switched from an Apple II to a PC around 1978. Windows wasn't invented yet, nor was the MAC.
I switched because at the time, Apple stuff was proprietary. If you wanted to add hardware or software to your computer it came from Apple. The PC was more open source. And my computers weren't toys. They worked for me. Connected to instruments, acquired data, did pre-processing, and stored the data for future polishing. It was easier using the PC (with DOS) back in those days.
Apr 21, 2016 18:50:05 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
NewBEE161 wrote:
Was a long time PC Windows user, but tired of the blue screen of death. Five years ago, switched to a Mac desktop with a 27" monitor. Also installed "Parallels" so I could run PC software, too. I have the best of both worlds!
I haven't seen a blue screen of death since Windows XP. Since then I've been on Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and now Windows 10. Very very stable with very few problems of any kind since I moved to Windows 7. That's 6 1/2 years ago.
Apr 21, 2016 18:57:01 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
I used both for years. Used Windows only because a... (show quote)
I am a Windows expert and I've never said that. I don't know any other Windows experts who says that. And, it patently untrue. I have been using and writing code for Windows applications and providing corporate desktop support for over 30 years. Who is this "expert" you're quoting and what is he is an "expert" in?
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