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Mar 20, 2016 11:28:57   #
DerBiermeister Loc: North of Richmond VA
 
billnikon wrote:


USED, BEEN USED BY SOMEONE, who we do not know and have never met, has handled and put their hands all over this camera. ........... The name is almost sinister isn't it, think about it, it's REFURBISHED. ........... So, your buying a used, broken, dirty hands touched it camera with a 90 DAY warranty.



Now you've got me worried -- it could be carrying some dreaded disease like swine flu.

:mrgreen:

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Mar 20, 2016 11:37:08   #
DerBiermeister Loc: North of Richmond VA
 
Wingpilot wrote:


Perhaps "refurbished" is the wrong term to use, as it does seem to imply that something was broken or worn out, then brought back to life.


LOL -- that reminds me of how Lexus (maybe about 20 years ago?) stopped referring to "used cars" and replaced that term with "pre-owned vehicles".

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Mar 20, 2016 11:50:55   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
LOL -- that reminds me of how Lexus (maybe about 20 years ago?) stopped referring to "used cars" and replaced that term with "pre-owned vehicles".


Used--such a dirty 4-letter word! :lol:

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Mar 20, 2016 11:58:50   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
mikeroetex wrote:
LOL!!! What are you worried about, cooties? How do you think these cameras are built and assembled? By immaculate conception? We are purchasing a tool for field use, not existing in an operating room in a sterile environment! I'm pretty sure plenty of "hands," by people I don't know, have touched a brand new camera in assembly, inspections, boxing, shipping, storage. Dang that Nikon corporation, hiring only factory line workers with sinister intent!
;-) ;-)


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Mar 20, 2016 12:19:59   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
LOL -- that reminds me of how Lexus (maybe about 20 years ago?) stopped referring to "used cars" and replaced that term with "pre-owned vehicles".
And now BMW has "Certified Pre-owned!" 8-)

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Mar 20, 2016 12:51:17   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
mikeroetex wrote:
And now BMW has "Certified Pre-owned!" 8-)


Nothing like buying a vehicle that has been guaranteed to have been used.

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Mar 20, 2016 13:42:43   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
bettis1 wrote:
But Bill, what if the bride tells the photographer that "I'm refurbished". Would he say "Sorry I only do white gown weddings...the new in the box smell just isn't there". :?

Bob


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Mar 20, 2016 13:46:59   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Wingpilot wrote:
I think the term "refurbished" is a generic term meaning that the camera has been inspected and repaired, if necessary, and put back on the market guaranteed as new or near-new. Perhaps "refurbished" is the wrong term to use, as it does seem to imply that something was broken or worn out, then brought back to life. Be that as it may, refurbs seem to be a good way to go, as I haven't heard of any problems from anyone who bought one.


I can see why Nikon owners would be concerned.
Might be worth checking into extended warranties, being a Nikon and all. :lol: :lol:

Marion

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Mar 20, 2016 14:42:17   #
ValliPride Loc: Lost in Florida
 
Be careful, I bought a refurbished lens last year from Nikon USA, know your return policy, I stopped the payment on the credit card, and it was
One problem after another, I was told refunds will take up to 3 months, and only if their tech thought lens was not repairable,just my experience, I wish that on no one.I put a post about it last summer, my thoughts get it from a brick & mortar Store not Nikon USA online, and I shot Nikons over 25 years, good luck

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Mar 20, 2016 14:51:22   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Bill, I am not trying to get your goat or win an argument or even get into an argument. I am many speaking of Canon as that is what I shoot. I like what the one poster said, "where do you think these come from Immaculate conception." Product comes off a line and is inspected. Minimal inspection is needed. Refurbished it is my understand is mostly due to inventory shift. When it is back to manufacture it is unboxed, individually and comprehensively reinserted and then re-boxed in a new refurbished container.

Some people just have a bias. I have been in a store where the owner/manager and a manufactures rep. explained the refurbished and showed why the significant pricing was a great buy only to have the person buy the product. I can only wonder if the purchaser had to sent the body in to have the shutter replaced or oil removed. Thanks for the question Bill. All my early digital was hand me downs. Very good hand me downs. I have purchased used equipment that looks like new and I have purchased refurbished that has been cost effective for me. What a GIFT!

J. R.

billnikon wrote:
Please expand on your statement, "they have been inspected more". You are telling me that REFURBISHED have been looked at more closely than new camera's. And what do you base this on. Have you seen these techs working on these REFURBISHED camera's. What is the inspection process? What is the bench time? How do you know they have received more attention than a new one would? And doesn't that tell you their WAS something wrong with it in the first place if it required bench time? It comes down to this, if you want used, someone's return, then by all means buy REFURBISHED. I SHUTTER the thought.
Please expand on your statement, "they have b... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2016 14:51:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Julian wrote:
Wow! How discouraging to hear some of the comments; I guess there are two wide and different schools of thought, but that does not help me. It is now a toss up between a refurbished D810 @ $2,249 and a brand new D750 @ $1,996; but, how about the issues with the D750? Man, this is really difficult..

Thanks for all the comments.


Let's add a little spice to your situation. You can get the D750 with a 24-120 f4 for about 2200.00. Take that to the bank and smoke it. And, by the way, this is for a new in the box, one year on the camera and lens, and best of all it's not REFURBISHED. Which means it was returned because someone did not want it, or something was wrong with it, or it was touched by some one who TRIED it out before you.

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Mar 20, 2016 15:17:28   #
INshooter Loc: Indiana
 
billnikon wrote:
Let's see, the price of a Nikon D810 refurbished is 2499.99. Lets call it 2500 for the sake of argument, at 10% off, that's 250.00. 2500 minus 250 is 2250. Please check my math, any way, that's what the Nikon site has them for.
Lets talk about refurbished, the name itself implies USED, BEEN USED BY SOMEONE, who we do not know and have never met, has handled and put their hands all over this camera. It also implies there was something WRONG with it, otherwise they wouldn't call it REFURBISHED. What was wrong with it, they never tell you. So, what's wrong with telling you. If you bought a refurbished car, wouldn't you want to know what they fixed before you drove it. I think we are being hoodwinked and mislead by all major companies when it comes to REFURBISHED merchandise. It is time to rise up America and fight back, demand to know exactly what was done to a product if it is advertised as REFURBISHED. The name is almost sinister isn't it, think about it, it's REFURBISHED. It was BROKEN (you really don't know if it was broken, BUT), and now it's fixed? So, your buying a used, broken, dirty hands touched it camera with a 90 DAY warranty. That's it America, 90 days or bust. Even Ebay gives you 180 days, chew on that Nikon. GOOD LUCK AMERICA.
Let's see, the price of a Nikon D810 refurbished i... (show quote)

I bought a refurbished Nikon 28mm f1.8. The lens hood had a strip of masking tape on it that had an identifying number handwritten on it. I had to use "goo gone" and a lot of scrubbing to get that mess off. Alarm bells went off. Then I took a picture and was amazed at how out of focus it was. I did a lot of fine tuning to get it to focus (at a particular distance). Took it outside and found it wouldn't focus well at other distances. Nikon takes lenses (cameras?) back within 14 days. They did take it back and paid all shipping. It worked out but now I am very leery of buying any more refurbished items.

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Mar 20, 2016 15:43:04   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
INshooter wrote:
I bought a refurbished Nikon 28mm f2.8. The lens hood had a strip of masking tape on it that had an identifying number handwritten on it. I had to use "goo gone" and a lot of scrubbing to get that mess off. Alarm bells went off. Then I took a picture and was amazed at how out of focus it was. I did a lot of fine tuning to get it to focus (at a particular distance). Took it outside and found it wouldn't focus well at other distances. Nikon takes lenses (cameras?) back within 14 days. They did take it back and paid all shipping. It worked out but now I am very leery of buying any more refurbished items.
I bought a refurbished Nikon 28mm f2.8. The lens h... (show quote)


Hey, I agree with you. Several folks on this thread have said these REFURBISHED lenses get a lot of individual attention, bench time, are inspected more closely than if they were new, or they are just new products repackaged, or just demo's repackaged. Folks are using everything under the sun to say REFURBISHED products are actually BETTER than new in the box. I wonder if these folks would buy a REFURBISHED car and only be given a 90 day warranty instead of one year 12,000 miles bumper to bumper, wouldn't a reasonable person say, "Hey, wait a minute, how come if you have inspected the car, brought it back to factory specs, only has 60 miles on it, you don't give me the same warranty as NEW." The reason camera companies only give you 90 days, CAUSE IT HAS BEEN REPAIRED, taken apart, and put back together. So, save your money and buy new, and, as they say in the old add, "YOU CAN PAY ME NOW, OR YOU CAN PAY ME LATER." Folks who buy REFURBISHED probably like Las Vegas for the same reason because there they can take another type of gamble.

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Mar 20, 2016 16:07:29   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Your very argument is one of the reasons that I shoot Canon! Canon has set the bench mark!

J. R.


billnikon wrote:
Hey, I agree with you. Several folks on this thread have said these REFURBISHED lenses get a lot of individual attention, bench time, are inspected more closely than if they were new, or they are just new products repackaged, or just demo's repackaged. Folks are using everything under the sun to say REFURBISHED products are actually BETTER than new in the box. I wonder if these folks would buy a REFURBISHED car and only be given a 90 day warranty instead of one year 12,000 miles bumper to bumper, wouldn't a reasonable person say, "Hey, wait a minute, how come if you have inspected the car, brought it back to factory specs, only has 60 miles on it, you don't give me the same warranty as NEW." The reason camera companies only give you 90 days, CAUSE IT HAS BEEN REPAIRED, taken apart, and put back together. So, save your money and buy new, and, as they say in the old add, "YOU CAN PAY ME NOW, OR YOU CAN PAY ME LATER." Folks who buy REFURBISHED probably like Las Vegas for the same reason because there they can take another type of gamble.
Hey, I agree with you. Several folks on this thre... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2016 16:30:05   #
photon56 Loc: North America
 
Julian wrote:
Nikon has a 10% price reduction on refurbished products today! What a deal. Opinions on Nikon refurbished, please?


Purchased a refurbished D810 with 45 counts on the shutter at about that same price point. I've been very pleased with it.

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