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Feb 16, 2016 13:42:31   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Yes, but spending the money on equipment is not totally parting with the money...you still have the purchase and it retains a good deal of its value, or resale value in many cases.

If one goes to a NFL game you have the experience and memories but the monetary value is essentially used up after the event. Some spending is like this and some spending provides enjoyment over a much longer period of time with some ongoing value which can be reconverted to money if desired.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Feb 16, 2016 13:42:54   #
Mondolinni Loc: Long Island, New York
 
ABSOLUTELY...
LFingar wrote:
You are looking at it from the viewpoint of a professional, where justifying an expenditure is often a necessity. For those of us for whom photography is a hobby the criteria is a bit different. We don't have to have a need for a purchase, only a desire. Our purchases don't have to make sense to anyone but ourselves. I've been considering getting another prime. Do I need it or have a specific purpose in mind? Nope. Do I want it? Possibly. When I make up my mind I might get it or not, but that won't affect anyone but me. Then there's the 5D MkIV rumored to be coming out this fall........ :-D
As I've stated before: If it's a hobby, the rule of reason need not apply!
You are looking at it from the viewpoint of a prof... (show quote)


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Feb 16, 2016 13:46:36   #
Mondolinni Loc: Long Island, New York
 
Great Advice.
rpavich wrote:
Well....as founder and lifelong chairman of the G.A.S. Society I have to chime in on this.

I've done what you did, more than once...and I regretted it upon looking back.

If I could recover the money spent by buying cameras and lenses I'd be retired right now, living on easy street (for at least a little while) :)

Buying gear is a false economy, it SEEMS like it will make things better, more efficient, more enjoyable (insert your favorite adjective here) but it's ultimately empty.

After 3 months you are used to the D810 and you end up with a camera that you now realize is just a camera and next year or the year after that, you will do the same for the D2010 or whatever.

Sharpness?

That's not the be-all-end-all of photography by any stretch, and nobody will ever say..."my...that's a sharp picture you've taken!"


It's a vicious cycle and the UHH promotes that cycle.

My only advice?

Send it back, polish up your current camera, take that $500.00 and take the wife somewhere nice for a couple of days, take LOTS of pictures while you are there.

Then send those pictures out to be printed and put them in a shoe box for when your are older and want to share and remember the time with your loved ones.


Been there, done that.
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Feb 16, 2016 14:08:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Flyerace wrote:
Toys, Toys, Toys. These are the things that have made us happy since we were born. These toys are no longer the wooden blocks, tricycles and jump ropes of our very young selves. These toys help us make beautiful pictures.

Everyone should have the opportunity to have as much fun in their lives as possible. Since many of us worked and saved for many years, spending a couple of thousand dollars for our hobby isn't going to be a problem.

Enjoy your new camera. Don't have buyer's remorse. Be happy. Take wonderful photos and enjoy the time you have on this earth. I have always believed that if I had good equipment, then the only thing needing improvement is me. Enjoy!
Toys, Toys, Toys. These are the things that have m... (show quote)

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Feb 16, 2016 14:31:58   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
dragonfist wrote:
I couldn't agree more as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. However I have seen hobbyists get so engrossed that they actually denied their families the necessities of life in order to buy items to support their hobby. My dad dealt in rare coins and we often talked between each other about this. We knew customers that would deny their families in order to buy coins for their collections. I asked dad why he sold to them and his reply was, "If I didn't they would just go elsewhere and buy anyway." Their is such a thing as self control and many folks don't have much of it.
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True, but people like the collectors you describe are addicts and no different then someone addicted to drugs or cigarettes or gambling. Telling any of them to think about what they are doing is a waste of time. Not knowing the personal situation of anyone else here on the Hog, I feel I have no choice but to assume that they are capable of making their own decisions. Helping someone decide if they want to buy something, if they ask for that advice, is one thing, but there are a number of members who seem determined to dissuade anyone from buying anything. "Improve your abilities instead" is one of the standard lines. Improvement should always be a goal, but sometimes you just want a new toy.

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Feb 16, 2016 14:41:13   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
bdk you made a wise purchase. The FF 810 is a great camera and the files are large enough to crop without loosing too much.

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Feb 16, 2016 15:27:12   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
Some ways to save when provisioning your new D810:

1) Find mis-labeled used lenses esteemed by Nikon's lens designers. See my 'how-to' $45 case study, posted today at UHH: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-368904-2.html

2) I have 3 D810 batteries. I find that two is enough for studio work.

3) Skip the CF card for now. One on-hand SD card is enough for starters.

4) Try to reuse the remote trigger you already own.

5) Forget about AC power, for starters.

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Feb 16, 2016 15:38:25   #
katbandit Loc: new york city
 
bdk wrote:
Yup GAS has struck, talked about the gas pains to the better half
and she said I should see if I could find something to ease my pain. she handed me $400.00 saying this should help.
So I just ordered a D810 ,
Because I have 90 days to spend $500. on my new credit card, and get $100. Bonus
Then I also get 2% cash back of the total spent ( today only)
Im saving a few bucks.

so now I need cards and extra battery's a lens or two...
Oh wait I cant afford all that, maybe I had better cancel my order...
Yup GAS has struck, talked about the gas pains to ... (show quote)

i just ordered my d810 from b and h and am getting two 32g cards with it..and an external hard drive too ..all for the price of the body only of the d810 ..it comes with a battery and it will interchange with the batteries from my other cameras..always check the deals at b and h photo..

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Feb 16, 2016 15:48:04   #
forjava Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA
 
Oh, and did I mention that my first test picture from the D810 with a 105mm G literally made my jaw drop? You just don't say such things on UHH, so I share that experience, knowing few here will agree.

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Feb 16, 2016 17:20:11   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
forjava wrote:
Oh, and did I mention that my first test picture from the D810 with a 105mm G literally made my jaw drop? You just don't say such things on UHH, so I share that experience, knowing few here will agree.

Awesome!! The purchase has been justified. After all, photography is like golf. The whole round can pretty much suck but if you hit one decent shot, it'll be the one remembered and it will be an instant great day.

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Feb 16, 2016 17:26:53   #
Eagle Eye Loc: Huntington, NY
 
It was a big leap when I finally gave in to the GAS and got my D810, but I love it and am very happy I made the purchase! Enjoy!!

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Feb 16, 2016 17:47:39   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Capture48 wrote:
I always laugh when people think they are saving money by spending money... Gotta love advertisers! Insert your own quote from PT Barnum here.


When my wife tells me she saved a certain amount of money by buying something on sale I always ask to see it.

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Feb 16, 2016 18:04:56   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The only health threatening GAS is that part which has not been relieved.

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Feb 16, 2016 18:40:49   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Yes, but spending the money on equipment is not totally parting with the money...you still have the purchase and it retains a good deal of its value, or resale value in many cases...


Some things work like that. Some things don't.

About 11-12 years ago I bought my first DSLR, a D200. I don't remember what it cost, but it was something like $1500 (plus lenses). At the time, I thought that spending that fortune would make it my last camera. Boy, was I off base there.

After I upgraded to a D3, I still used the D200 occasionally because it had a built-in flash so I could use off-camera flash with my one speedlight. Eventually I got another so I could use the D3 for "studio" work. The D200 has sat in the drawer for maybe 2-3 years now (maybe I used it once or twice in that time). A friend has a kid who is getting interested in photography so I looked around to see what a D200 was worth. It ranged from about $100 to $400 (roughly).

Camera bodies don't hold their value much since there are new and improved models coming out at regular intervals. The D5 is now coming out at around $6500. As I recall, the D3 was around $6000 when I got it (new). So the technology has advanced so the newest and best is probably cheaper if you factor in inflation.

Lenses, on the other hand, retain their value longer because they only get updated every few decades.

On the other hand, every tractor I ever bought used cost me more than it cost the original owner new. I have a 1976 tractor that cost me $18K (10 years ago), but was probably $6-8K new in 1976. The cost of owning a tractor is the maintenance, not the capital.

I don't think I can say that about my cameras. The return on investment for a camera is not what you sell it for. It's the pictures you get out of it.

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Feb 16, 2016 18:50:01   #
lwerthe1mer Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Impulse buys often turn out to be the most regrettable ones.


Perhaps this is the time for me to confess my most recent struggles with GAS. This is a "true confession."

A little background - I am an avid amateur. I photograph landscapes a fair amount and I photograph my grandchildren a lot.

Prior to May, 2015, my camera for 2-3 years was a Canon 70D. I read some reviews on the Sony RX10 and couldn't resist the GAS. I wanted to simplify. I purchased one, read a book on the camera from cover to cover and was very pleased with the camera over the next few weeks. Then I pixel-peeped and became concerned with IQ. I returned the camera within the 30-day return period.

My next case of GAS occurred in July, 2015. I was suffering with tendonitis of my right elbow and decided to swap my 70D for a lighter, mirrorless camera. After a lot of research, I purchased an Olympus EMD 5ii, along with an 18-40 Pro lens. I liked this camera as well, and loved the lens, except for the location of the shutter release. The Olympus grip seemed to solve the problem, and I was happy.

Lo and behold, I read some glowing reviews of the Sony a7ii and reasoned that a full frame sensor would be the best thing since sliced bread. GAS arose again. Since I was within the 30-day return period for the Olympus 5ii, I returned it and purchased an a7ii, with an acceptable 17-40 kit lens. I subsequently added a Zeiss 35mm 2.8 lens and have been able to resist swapping the kit lens for a 14-40 Zeiss.

In hindsight, any of these 3 cameras would have been fine for me. In fact my 70D would have been fine. Did I improve my enjoyment of photography by equipment purchases in 2015? Or did I just spin my wheels and spend $$$?

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