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Jan 10, 2016 05:28:20   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Bill_de wrote:
Not only did he say his wife has FX lenses, Nikon FX cameras can use DX lens and will shoot in the DX format. For the D810:

DX-format
(L) 4,800 x 3,200
(M) 3,600 x 2,400
(S) 2,400 x 1,600

That could still give you a 15 MP image.

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Kinda defeats the purpose, wouldn't you say? When I said that once you get into the fx format it means you need to get into fx lenses. If you've got an 800 series camera, compatible lenses are, for the most part, somewhat expensive. One that I would recommend that is not so bad is the 24-120mm.

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Jan 10, 2016 06:31:15   #
tscali
 
Just bought the Nikon D750 and I am in amazed at the difference between that and my old D7000. This is my first full frame digital camera. I was originally going to upgrade all my lenses to f/2.8 for low light. Couldn't afford the cost. I saw the Nikon D750 with a kit lens on sale for a $1000.00 off and bought it. The quality and auto-focus is simply amazing. In my opinion, the ISO range eliminates the need for the faster lenses.The only thing I don't like is that when you take a picture the camera makes a tinny sound; but the pictures are perfect. Hope this helps.

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Jan 10, 2016 07:02:08   #
CO
 
You might want to hold on to the DX Nikon even if you get an FX camera because of the extra depth of field a cropped sensor camera can provide. When using lenses on a full frame and cropped sensor camera that result in the same field of view such as 24mm on cropped sensor and 35mm on full frame you'll get the same perspective but more depth of field from the cropped sensor. If you have the cropped sensor camera stopped down to f/8 you'll have to stop down the full frame camera to about f/12 to get the same depth of field.

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Jan 10, 2016 07:38:11   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
I am very happy with my Df, I love having the controls at my finger tips, and it is very good at low light/high ISO.

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Jan 10, 2016 07:41:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SteveR wrote:
Kinda defeats the purpose, wouldn't you say? When I said that once you get into the fx format it means you need to get into fx lenses, if you've got an 800 series camera, compatible lenses are, for the most part, somewhat expensive.


No, it gives you options. And since he already has FX lenses in the house he can exercise those options. The OP already stated that he will not be adding any lenses, just a body, so lens cost is immaterial.


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Jan 10, 2016 07:51:22   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Nikon_DonB wrote:
Don't forget the 810's little brother, the D610. If you don't need all the bells & whistles of the 810 or 750, the 610 at 24MP takes some awesome shots and is by NO means a slouch. It'll do everything I ask it to do.
Plus the price is right for a FF camera.


Good point about the D610, and you can probably pick up a refurbished at a pretty good price.

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Jan 10, 2016 08:13:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jlward1946 wrote:
I would take a look d750

As far as I'm concerned, the D750 is a perfect camera (for me). I've gone through a dozen cameras over the past few years, and I plan to keep my D750's indefinitely. Check out refurbs. That's what I always do.

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Jan 10, 2016 08:15:47   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
CO wrote:
You might want to hold on to the DX Nikon even if you get an FX camera because of the extra depth of field a cropped sensor camera can provide. When using lenses on a full frame and cropped sensor camera that result in the same field of view such as 24mm on cropped sensor and 35mm on full frame you'll get the same perspective but more depth of field from the cropped sensor. If you have the cropped sensor camera stopped down to f/8 you'll have to stop down the full frame camera to about f/12 to get the same depth of field.
You might want to hold on to the DX Nikon even if ... (show quote)


How does the cropped sensor camera compare with an FX camera when used in DX mode, with the same lens mounted?

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Jan 10, 2016 08:54:17   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
the d750 is a great camera and most reviews rate it higher than the d810.

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Jan 10, 2016 09:33:32   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
orrie smith wrote:
the d750 is a great camera and most reviews rate it higher than the d810.


I'm waiting for the 820 to come out with Group Area Auto Focus and Expeed 5. However, I'd have to ask you in what ways you believe the 750 exceeds the 810?

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Jan 10, 2016 09:36:35   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You need a Df; black or silver, your choice.


Only if he never intend to do video

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Jan 10, 2016 09:54:00   #
CO
 
Bill_de wrote:
How does the cropped sensor camera compare with an FX camera when used in DX mode, with the same lens mounted?

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If it's a fixed focal length lens it will be the same in FX or DX mode just a cropped image in DX mode. If it's a zoom lens and you use focal lengths that result in the same field of view such as 24mm on cropped sensor and 35mm on the full frame then the cropped sensor gives more depth of field for the same aperture.

Photographer Neil van Niekirk wrote an excellent article on the subject here:
http://neilvn.com/tangents/full-frame-vs-crop-sensor-cameras-comparison-depth-of-field/

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Jan 10, 2016 10:16:39   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
[quote=ka3ciz11]I'd like to get a new FX Nikon camera. It is just a hobby with me so I take a variety of subjects. This includes architecture, landscapes, flowers, etc. I've had a DX camera(s) for years and would like to upgrade. I can't afford any Nikon top of the line models, but something as their DF or D810 might be nice. My wife has a supply of FX lens which I can share when she's not looking. lol So I'll just be getting a body.

Anyone's input would be appreciated. (Constructive Input)

You can pick up a D800 (a fine camera) for a good price on ebay. Look for mint in a box as new. I still use mine on a daily basis and it is a workhorse. Learn how to clean it's sensor, not hard but needs to be done depending on the amount of work you plan to do.

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Jan 10, 2016 10:21:14   #
tscali
 
I'm have never used an 810 so I could not comment. It cost a $1000.00 more and from what I could see it only offered more pixels. The 750 had the same auto focus and if I remember correctly, the same ISO ratings. I'm sure in some instance cropping could be a factor; but I didn't think it would really make a significant difference. I'm not a professional and I want/demand sharp images. The 750 has more than met my expectations. In my case, I couldn't justify the extra cost of the 810.

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Jan 10, 2016 10:27:02   #
tscali
 
I'm not a pro; but in using my 750 for the last two days, I've found my depth of field to be better. In one picture of a rose, where I spot focused on the core, the outer pedals were starting to blur so I had to change my aperture from f/4 to f/4.5 to correct the image. I never had that control on my D7000.

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