Why not make camera settings standard.
Dec 16, 2015 20:48:49 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
boberic wrote:
Can anyone please tell my why Canon uses TV and AV instead of simply S or A ? Shouldn't they want to make it easier for the new users t understand the settings. They don't use unique nomenclature on their lenses.
I was once a new user and it didn't take very much effort to realize that Av = A and Tv = S. To a new user even A and S are confusing as concepts. If you are interested, you educate yourself. If you are not that interested you leave it on full auto or buy a point and shoot.
Dec 16, 2015 21:02:58 #
mwsilvers wrote:
I was once a new user and it didn't take very much effort to realize that Av = A and Tv = S. To a new user even A and S are confusing as concepts. If you are interested, you educate yourself. If you are not that interested you leave it on full auto or buy a point and shoot.
Good points. A and S could mean so many things: 'A' for 'Advanced User Mode' and 'S' for 'Stupid User Mode', although they're not very viable suggestions from a marketing perspective.
This could be more complicated than we thought! :lol: :lol:
Dec 16, 2015 21:20:10 #
I had a friend hand his Nikon DSLR to me once and he wondered why it wasn't taking the types of pictures he thought it should. He had it in Aperture priority mode set wide open and thought the A meant "auto". I gave him a quick education and turned the dial back to the real "auto" and he was very happy with his expensive point and shoot after that... It's not worth explaining to someone who has no interest in learning.
Dec 16, 2015 21:26:21 #
jim quist wrote:
you know what you can do with your micro 4 turds.
Jim, I don't know if I've ever yelled at you or not......, BUTT, I know funny when I see it!!!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Dec 16, 2015 21:58:31 #
Peterff wrote:
In answer to your question, sir, NO!! ... Sure, the 'v' in 'Tv' and 'Av' is superfluous. It could have just been 'T' and 'A', but would that make a meaningful difference?
I might enjoy using a camera that was excellent with "T&A", but I would still need a suitable model for that function to produce its best results! ...
I might enjoy using a camera that was excellent with "T&A", but I would still need a suitable model for that function to produce its best results! ...
... and that's why those v's shouldn't be there! It's like Beavis once remarked, "Too complicated!"
Ya know, my best friend (known him since age 5,) one of his college roommates, and I have a never-ending debate on a topic similar to what you later allude to above: Is it T&A ... or is it TNA? But we never discuss this in front of their wives.
Truly, lev29 8-)
Dec 16, 2015 22:16:49 #
lev29 wrote:
Is it T&A ... or is it TNA? But we never discuss this in front of their wives. Truly, lev29 8-)
We may never know the answer to that question, but continuing the research seems to be a worthwhile endeavor. Perhaps I should ask my model friend! :D
Dec 17, 2015 05:10:03 #
tsilva wrote:
What's so hard about understanding time value or aperture value? Oh, it needs to be dumbed down for Nikon users, got it
I have a Canon and never thought about TV being time value (speed) and AV being how much the lens opens.
Dec 17, 2015 05:46:38 #
I am a Nikon user and a Nikon fan but Canon used the Tv and Av before others started to use A and S. Well I take it back, others have A before but no S. Canon had A too but its A stands for shutter priority. Check Canon AE-1. Canon introduced Av, Tv and P in the A1. Others started making their camera MASP. Notice that the original Canon A1 doesn't have an M setting.
Dec 17, 2015 06:17:20 #
That's part of being a photographer.
Didn't you know that every manufacturer has a better idea. LoL
As per the original question, who's to say they aren't right and the others are "different"?
Didn't you know that every manufacturer has a better idea. LoL
As per the original question, who's to say they aren't right and the others are "different"?
Dec 17, 2015 07:23:08 #
boberic wrote:
Can anyone please tell my why Canon uses TV and AV instead of simply S or A ? Shouldn't they want to make it easier for the new users t understand the settings. They don't use unique nomenclature on their lenses.
Canon and Nikon are both great camera manufacturer's. I'm not going to bias my reply either way. Having said that, I found the Av and Tv nomenclatures confusing as a neophyte. Yes, it took me a few seconds to look it up and viola, I understood it.
I've researched this a bit on the web and this forum. There is much talk about the exposure triangle; ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed. Most books and articles refer to the "shutter speed" as a way to control the action of a shot. I don't see much, if any, discussion about the Time of an exposure. Unless you are using Bulb mode and "timing" the shot takes on a different meaning.
It really makes no difference to me what they call it. But seriously folks, who here would ask what Time you have your camera set to? If I were asked that question, I would be looking up the clock settings not the shutter speed.
Dec 17, 2015 07:39:25 #
[quote=tsilva]What's so hard about understanding time value or aperture value? Oh, it needs to be dumbed down for Nikon users, got it
Very well said.
My Olympus camera has:
A letter "A" for aperture
A letter "S" for shutter
A letter "M" for manual
Very well said.
My Olympus camera has:
A letter "A" for aperture
A letter "S" for shutter
A letter "M" for manual
Dec 17, 2015 07:41:47 #
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Dec 17, 2015 07:52:43 #
zigipha
Loc: north nj
lev29 wrote:
Well, well, Peterff, ain't we two a solipsistic pa... (show quote)
meant it or not..was pretty funny lol
:-o :-o :-o :) :-o :)
Dec 17, 2015 08:06:03 #
Peterff wrote:
You make an interesting point, the question is how do we identify that single unfortunate Canon user amongst the millions of fortunate ones! :lol: :lol:
"The" was meant to indicate that any Canon user would be unfortunate. "The" in the generic sense. :D
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