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Dec 8, 2015 18:43:19   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
One troll.

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Dec 8, 2015 23:43:00   #
frjack Loc: Boston, MA
 
While I was waiting to go through passport control at Charles de Gaulle airport two years ago a group of American students were discussing their trip. One young man earned my admiration when he expressed his disdain for the people who were at the Mona Lisa only long enough to take a "selfie" (ugly word) and then race off to the next thing to be seen. He was annoyed that no one bothered to really look at the painting let alone study it. Kid has a great future.

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Dec 8, 2015 23:47:18   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
frjack wrote:
While I was waiting to go through passport control at Charles de Gaulle airport two years ago a group of American students were discussing their trip. One young man earned my admiration when he expressed his disdain for the people who were at the Mona Lisa only long enough to take a "selfie" (ugly word) and then race off to the next thing to be seen. He was annoyed that no one bothered to really look at the painting let alone study it. Kid has a great future.

Yes, that is what I noticed too (looking at the picture)

Hey I can post the link now!!! (Middle video)
:thumbup:

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Dec 9, 2015 06:04:17   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
frjack wrote:
While I was waiting to go through passport control at Charles de Gaulle airport two years ago a group of American students were discussing their trip. One young man earned my admiration when he expressed his disdain for the people who were at the Mona Lisa only long enough to take a "selfie" (ugly word) and then race off to the next thing to be seen. He was annoyed that no one bothered to really look at the painting let alone study it. Kid has a great future.

If you have been there and seen the Mona Lisa you will know that it is protected by so many layers of protective glass .....some are even tinted I think....it's also a circus to get anywhere close......taking a picture or a selfie doesn't make much difference really !
Thank God everything in the Louvre isn't AS popular as the Mona Lisa ! .....

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Dec 9, 2015 07:30:18   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
LOL!! You sound like me! Janny say I am not in any of the family pictures.:) I like being behind the camera.:):) Most folks in the family know what I look like.:):)



Rongnongno wrote:
VS 'Look at what I did (with my camera)'.

You are probably right.

I need to get along with the program then... :hunf: :evil:

Damned, I just remembered that I do not want to be in pictures... Over nearly 33 years my wife may have a handful of these and frowning ones at that!!!

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dec 9, 2015 07:50:44   #
Cappy Loc: Wildwood, NJ
 
I, as many of the others are behind the camera. Have loads of pictures but VERY few with me in it.
I was taking pictures of Chubby Checker with my family and friends when Chubby and Samantha Brown from the Travel Channel was at my daughters. He said, George your not in any of the pics, someone take the camera and get a picture of us.

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Dec 9, 2015 08:15:03   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Coming from you, that can be 'taken' at so many levels it is hard to figure out!!!
:shock: :hunf: :XD: :lol:


Thanks, Ron.....
:thumbup: 8-)
--Bob

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Dec 9, 2015 09:02:47   #
bcrawf
 
rmalarz wrote:
99.9% of the photographs I take are of me behind the camera.
--Bob


It took me a minute to get it: you take almost all your photos in a mirror!

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Dec 9, 2015 09:03:53   #
drmarty Loc: Pine City, NY
 
Rongnongno wrote:
When we look at facebook and most social media it has become more 'where I have been' than 'what I have seen'.

This changes many aspects of photography (this being my opinion).

I was struck by this while reading an article on the BBC about the Mona Lisa. There was an accompanying video (I did not play it) but the photo showed folks taking picture of themselves with the painting in the background. 'I was there! Awesome!'

What do you think?
When we look at facebook and most social media it ... (show quote)


Agree!

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Dec 9, 2015 09:04:18   #
ssymeono Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
 
Rongnongno wrote:
When we look at facebook and most social media it has become more 'where I have been' than 'what I have seen'.

This changes many aspects of photography (this being my opinion).

I was struck by this while reading an article on the BBC about the Mona Lisa. There was an accompanying video (I did not play it) but the photo showed folks taking picture of themselves with the painting in the background. 'I was there! Awesome!'

What do you think?
When we look at facebook and most social media it ... (show quote)


To put it mildly, it plainly demonstrates a low cultural level. People like this don't belong in museums or in cities with cultural institutions that are supposed to teach us the lessons of history with genuine materials from the past.
Some museums prohibit taking such pictures. You may also see these people staring at the label next to a work of art longer than the work itself. One can only imagine what sort of citizens these people make and what sort of politicians they vote for.

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Dec 9, 2015 09:10:32   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
VS 'Look at what I did (with my camera)'.

You are probably right.

I need to get along with the program then... :hunf: :evil:

Damned, I just remembered that I do not want to be in pictures... Over nearly 33 years my wife may have a handful of these and frowning ones at that!!!

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I understand that you do not want to be in the pictures but from experience I know you are wrong in thinking this. Back when I had a studio there were many wives, daughters, and good friends that shed many a tear while asking me to make a copy and enlargement of someone they loved and missed from a poorly focused and exposed snap shot. Don't be so macho that you leave the ones that love and care about you nothing but the image in there mind which fades with time.

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Dec 9, 2015 09:21:06   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
MCHUGH wrote:
I understand that you do not want to be in the pictures but from experience I know you are wrong in thinking this. Back when I had a studio there were many wives, daughters, and good friends that shed many a tear while asking me to make a copy and enlargement of someone they loved and missed from a poorly focused and exposed snap shot. Don't be so macho that you leave the ones that love and care about you nothing but the image in there mind which fades with time.

It has nothing to do with being 'macho' it has to do with a profound dislike of being in the lime lights. Beside I am ugly. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Probably a side effect of one of the job I held for a few years too. Stopped sitting with my back turned toward the entrance by example. But that dislike of being in picture was always there.

Also having experienced a grieving loss, having a picture or many does not help but prolongs the misery.

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Dec 9, 2015 09:28:41   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
To your original question, is it changing photography? No. There have always been casual non-pros taking selfies. I was struck by seeing the line of adoring teens stretching out with their phones to get a photo of themselves as the pope walked down the line touching hands. Did they even look at him? What memory will they retain of that event?

The fact that everyone has a camera (on their phone) in their pocket at all times is changing our society but not necessarily "photography". Technology (advanced digital) is changing the way we photograph, but not necessarily the art. It IS changing the general population's attitude toward photography and photographers. In another thread, someone asked if "Photo Shop could fix her photos", and she bought a more expensive DSLR, hoping it would create better photos for her. I had a real estate client of mine tell me that since the cameras are so much better today, we don't need professional photographers to make great photos.

I tell them, if you want to see terrible, horrible photo examples, look on Facebook or on your local Multiple Listing Service.

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Dec 9, 2015 09:31:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
mallen1330 wrote:
To your original question, is it changing photography? No. There have always been casual non-pros taking selfies. I was struck by seeing the line of adoring teens stretching out with their phones to get a photo of themselves as the pope walked down the line touching hands. Did they even look at him? What memory will they retain of that event?

Well, is not that making the point of this thread?

Photography becomes "I was there" instead of "I saw that"...

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Dec 9, 2015 09:39:42   #
thephotoman Loc: Rochester, NY
 
g8rfan1942 wrote:
I had the good fortune to view the Mona Lisa in an exhibit at the NYC Metropolitan Museum of Art and have no photos of it either by itself or with me in the foreground. I carry the memory of that viewing in my mind all these years later and don't in the least need a selfie to remind me that I'd been there. But then, I'm old ....

I am with you. When I was q5 our fami)y visited the world's fair in NYC. Michael Angela's The Piata was on display. I can still remember and deecthe statue. It had protective glass in front of it, but you could still see The statue clearly. Photos were not allowed. That did not stop my brain from photographing it.

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