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Dec 2, 2015 01:33:49   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Here is the raw shot

Screen Shot 2015-12-01 at 10.31.54 PM by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr

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Dec 2, 2015 01:50:48   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
The one I took was a JPEG, so I don't guess there was much that could be done. I haven't ever shot in RAW, so I don't know how to pull the highlights. Also, I don't have LR or PS, but I do have affinity photo. I wonder if shooting in raw and doing a bit of PP would be better than shooting everything in JPEG.

I still don't have a good answer regarding the A7. Is it really worth the extra $$$$?

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Dec 2, 2015 01:58:52   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
The one I took was a JPEG, so I don't guess there was much that could be done. I haven't ever shot in RAW, so I don't know how to pull the highlights. Also, I don't have LR or PS, but I do have affinity photo. I wonder if shooting in raw and doing a bit of PP would be better than shooting everything in JPEG.

I still don't have a good answer regarding the A7. Is it really worth the extra $$$$?


To keep things simple, I shoot JPEG (and only medium resolution) for my wife who sells on eBay. I make the adjustments in Photo, which is Apple's PP program that comes with Imacs. It works. This is an example of JPEG and minimal PP

Always get the exposure as good as possible

PB060005 by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr

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Dec 2, 2015 02:00:56   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
The one I took was a JPEG, so I don't guess there was much that could be done. I haven't ever shot in RAW, so I don't know how to pull the highlights. Also, I don't have LR or PS, but I do have affinity photo. I wonder if shooting in raw and doing a bit of PP would be better than shooting everything in JPEG.

I still don't have a good answer regarding the A7. Is it really worth the extra $$$$?


I just looked at Affinity - so you have a Mac? That is all you need for making basic adjustments.

Which A7? The original?

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Dec 2, 2015 10:57:21   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
le boecere wrote:
If true, this remark certainly weighs in on the topic:

"The longer answer is that they (megapixels) sort of matter, but only if you’re scaling your image—that is, blowing it up to a larger size for printing. For computer uses, 5 megapixels are more than enough; after all, the average modern computer monitor is only 2 megapixels large."

From: http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/what-to-look-for-in-a-new-camera-instead-of-megapixels/



What I (le Boecere) derive from this remark (again, if it's irrefutable fact) is: Maybe full-frame 50 MP with a Zeiss Otus lens ain't all that necessary for most folks who're viewing their photos on a computer screen or showing off the grandchildren on a cell-phone screen. Ya think?
If true, this remark certainly weighs in on the to... (show quote)


I get'cha.

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Dec 2, 2015 10:58:39   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
I just looked at Affinity - so you have a Mac? That is all you need for making basic adjustments.

Which A7? The original?


The original. The next ones are too expensive, and I don't need 36 or 42MP.

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Dec 2, 2015 11:10:20   #
Drala2k Loc: Vermont
 
Far North wrote:
The one I took was a JPEG, so I don't guess there was much that could be done. I haven't ever shot in RAW, so I don't know how to pull the highlights. Also, I don't have LR or PS, but I do have affinity photo. I wonder if shooting in raw and doing a bit of PP would be better than shooting everything in JPEG.

I still don't have a good answer regarding the A7. Is it really worth the extra $$$$?


Far North, you can give Adobe Photoshop Elements at try. surprising it can do a lot with your images. Also, you can find good deals on version 14 at the moment, recently under $50 at Costco.

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Dec 2, 2015 11:37:22   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
The original. The next ones are too expensive, and I don't need 36 or 42MP.


I'd go for it if you need full frame. At that price those are hard to beat.

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Dec 2, 2015 11:52:16   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
I'd go for it if you need full frame. At that price those are hard to beat.


Yeah, I'm just curious to know if there is any real advantage to the FF camera over the APS-C format, other than the ability to make huge prints or pull in a subject by cropping, with little to no loss of IQ. Besides the camera being expensive (although currently the price is pretty good) the lenses are speedy, too. I have all the rest of winter to decide which way I want to go, DSLR/mirrorless, APS-C/FF, although I'd never go FF in a DSLR because they are way too costly for my budget. I will only have so much money to deal with, and I need to keep within that $2000.00 limit as much as possible.

My problem is that I had an A6000 and thought it was a pretty darned good camera, and I'm familiar with it, and just don't know if moving "up" to the A7 will profit me anything worth the extra investment.

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Dec 2, 2015 12:21:59   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
I'll be happy to spend your money, but understand that as much as people want you to believe that only FF can take good enough pictures, if you look around, you will see terrible shots with FF and excellent stuff with smaller sensors. ANY of the cameras today will take as good a picture as you are. So even a Micro Four Third camera is sufficient for most. So base your decision on what YOU want out of a camera, not what "Joe" is recommending on a forum. The quality will be there, whether you chose FF, APSC, M4/3 DSLR or mirrorless. Out of that $2K budget, maybe put aside a little of it to take some classes. Nothing will improve your photos better than "learning".

Far North wrote:
Yeah, I'm just curious to know if there is any real advantage to the FF camera over the APS-C format, other than the ability to make huge prints or pull in a subject by cropping, with little to no loss of IQ. Besides the camera being expensive (although currently the price is pretty good) the lenses are speedy, too. I have all the rest of winter to decide which way I want to go, DSLR/mirrorless, APS-C/FF, although I'd never go FF in a DSLR because they are way too costly for my budget. I will only have so much money to deal with, and I need to keep within that $2000.00 limit as much as possible.

My problem is that I had an A6000 and thought it was a pretty darned good camera, and I'm familiar with it, and just don't know if moving "up" to the A7 will profit me anything worth the extra investment.
Yeah, I'm just curious to know if there is any rea... (show quote)

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Dec 2, 2015 12:40:34   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
I'll be happy to spend your money, but understand that as much as people want you to believe that only FF can take good enough pictures, if you look around, you will see terrible shots with FF and excellent stuff with smaller sensors. ANY of the cameras today will take as good a picture as you are. So even a Micro Four Third camera is sufficient for most. So base your decision on what YOU want out of a camera, not what "Joe" is recommending on a forum. The quality will be there, whether you chose FF, APSC, M4/3 DSLR or mirrorless. Out of that $2K budget, maybe put aside a little of it to take some classes. Nothing will improve your photos better than "learning".
I'll be happy to spend your money, but understand ... (show quote)


Absolutely, regarding "learning." As for the A7 FF camera, before I plunk down my money, I'd just like to know what, if any, advantage it has over the A6000. I'm more curious than anything.

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Dec 2, 2015 12:43:28   #
Drala2k Loc: Vermont
 
Far North wrote:
Absolutely, regarding "learning." As for the A7 FF camera, before I plunk down my money, I'd just like to know what, if any, advantage it has over the A6000. I'm more curious than anything.


Here is Steve Huff impressions: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/10/15/hands-on-1st-impressions-the-sony-a7-a7r-and-rx10/

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Dec 2, 2015 12:46:50   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Drala2k wrote:
Far North, you can give Adobe Photoshop Elements at try. surprising it can do a lot with your images. Also, you can find good deals on version 14 at the moment, recently under $50 at Costco.


He already has a good program

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Dec 2, 2015 12:51:20   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Far North wrote:
Absolutely, regarding "learning." As for the A7 FF camera, before I plunk down my money, I'd just like to know what, if any, advantage it has over the A6000. I'm more curious than anything.


What ever those advantages are - the question is, do you need them? You could rent one for pretty cheap with a lens from lens rental - no one can tell you what is important to you or how you will get along with the camera. The viewfinder is almost as good as the one in the Olympus em1, so that to me is a huge plus over the a6000's viewfinder. But it is a slow camera and the shutter placement is terrible which was fixed in the new version.

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Dec 2, 2015 12:59:40   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
tdekany wrote:
What ever those advantages are - the question is, do you need them? You could rent one for pretty cheap with a lens from lens rental - no one can tell you what is important to you or how you will get along with the camera. The viewfinder is almost as good as the one in the Olympus em1, so that to me is a huge plus over the a6000's viewfinder. But it is a slow camera and the shutter placement is terrible which was fixed in the new version.


Good things to know before I buy. The last thing I want to do is "settle" on something, only to find out that it has shortcomings I may not be content to deal with.

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