GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I've had my eye in the Sony a6000 but I read that the 16-50 lens is not a very good lens and that there are not a lot of lenses for their mirrorless cameras. I know the right lens can make all the difference & Hasselblad makes a couple of lenses for this camera. This lens issue led me to research other brands and Olympus gets a lot of praise for its EM-10 Mark II w/14-42 lens. However, the sensor is smaller...so then I started thinking about the full frame sensor on the Sony a7 II. So now I've come full circle to the Sony again which leads me back to the original question. Which lens? Is their a pro quality lens for the Sony a7 II that is better than the 28-70 f/3.5-5.6? Or are the PRO lenses you can get for the Oly make this a better package?

I want a smaller, lighter "kit" and only 2 -3 lenses. I would be more likely to always have this kit with me & reserve the bigger, heavier DSLR for special occasions. By the way, I did consider the Fujifilm as well just to confuse myself some more.

Zaydewise Loc: Nashville TN

I find the 18-55mm lens very good and sharp. I love the camera and the quality of the photos that are produced.

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

I have the a6000 and the 16-50 and 55-210 lenses. Gave my Nikon gear to my daughter. I have absolutely loved this camera!!!! Light, quiet, easy to use and stunning images! The lenses (both Sony) are quick and light. I won't go back to a DSLR - mirrorless is the only way to go.

An easy search for comments about the a6000 from other hogs: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/search.jsp?q=sony+a6000+lens&u=&s=0

Several days ago someone was selling, on the hog, their a6000 and lenses for $700!

Best wishes in selecting the proper camera for your needs.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

The A6000 is a crop frame APS camera - as is the A77II ! On the A6000, I would use the Sigma 19,30,and 60mm f2.8 lenses. On the A77II I would use The Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Contemporary lens.

rdgreenwood Loc: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

I've been mulling over the same issue and have been advised by my camera club's star that he has set aside his Nikon D800 and and gone over to an A6000 with a 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* DT Standard Zoom Lens. The guy is highly knowledgeable, so I trust his recommendation.

Good luck.

Elliern Loc: Myrtle Beach, SC

Best Buy has it on sale with the 2 kit lens for $699.

I have both kit lenses.

In my opinion, it is definitely not quiet. I shoot mostly birds, wildlife and closeups. When I am shooting with other photographers, it is by far the loudest. I find that very annoying. There are no long lenses in the Sony e mount system, unfortunately. However, the IQ is very good.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I read that the Sigma & Zeiss lenses are excellent

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I've read many reviews on the hog on mirrorless cameras but not specifically on the Sony a6000, so thank you for the link. There is a lot of recommendations to get a Zeiss 16-70 lens. I thought the Sony lens was Zeiss glass...no? I know from experience that Sony batteries don't hold up well...at least they don't on my little Cyber-Shot. That being said, I ALWAYS buy an extra battery with every camera I buy.

I wonder if that a6000 is still for sale. I'll do a search.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

The a 7 II has a full frame sensor and cost 3 times as much. Also, it may just be too much bigger to always have with you.

I did read that the Sigma primes were quite good on the Sony a6000 camera.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I've been checking the prices all over & Sony must control the price because it seems to be the same price everywhere. Last week, it was $80 cheaper than now...should have bought it then, but I was still deciding!!! I thought the price would go down on black Friday but so far, nada. Maybe cyber Monday will offer a discounted price.

I don't do birding, so the lack of a longer lens is not an issue. Besides, I think that would unbalance this little camera quite a bit & it wouldn't be as portable

rdgreenwood Loc: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

You're making logical decisions. You'll be fine. From what I hear, this is an outstanding camera that offers an economy of size without a loss in image quality. Can you feel a little envy coming your way?

CathyAnn Loc: Apache Junction, AZ

I was just checking my email accounts and found an email from Amazon.com. The A6000 is on "Black Friday" sale for $548.00!!!

Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Mirrorless-Digital-Camera-16-50mm/dp/B00I8BICB2/ref=gbps_tit_m-8_5202_05bdcce8?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2300305202&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=384082011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=19YD6YX684D0TMCMFX89

eta: It includes the 16-50mm lens.

lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.

I own Sony digital ILC cameras, both A-mt (A55) & E-mt (a6000). For the latter, I now own 4 lenses: Lensbaby Composer Pro with Sweet 50 & Fisheye optics, the pancake 16 mm f/2.8, the 35 mm f/1.8 with OSS, and purchased <1 week ago, the 55-210 mm f/4-6.3 with OSS.

My approach to answering your inquiry is mostly conceptual, and I already know from your other posts that you've got at least as good an understanding about Photography, in general or perhaps better than mine.

1. Is cost a major limiting factor for you? Obviously, this is in relative terms. You don't need to answer me, but how much are you willing to spend on a new camera and some lenses for it collectively?

2. Do you want to ANY video recording with it W/O using a tripod?

3. Do you have or foresee developing hand tremors? I have them occasionally and they're due to Parkinson's Disease (PD).

Let's keep Q1 in mind when you ultimately determine which E-mount camera you're going to settle on: an FE such as the a7 II vs an APS-C, the a6000 or its successor rumored to debut this February.

If your answer to Q2 is Yes, then the ONLY way, as I just discovered, that you can do such with a telephoto lens and no tripod is to buy a telephoto lens with OSS (=IS=VR) built in to it. Currently, it appears that your options are quite limited if you're on a budget.

Regardless of your answer to Q2, if your reply to Q3 is Yes, then you have an important choice to make! For Image Stabilization, you'll need to buy lenses equipped with OSS if you pick the a6000, period! If you don't want to pay the premium for that feature in every lens, you then have two possible options.
a. Buy the a7 II or one of the other mark II a7's.
b. Wait for the a6000's successor, which is strongly rumored to incorporate IS at the cost of increasing the camera body's thickness.

Opinion: unless you're a real purist and perfectionist about photography, I wouldn't take the Full frame vs APS issue that seriously. Oh, and I'm not ready to conclude yet that I "like" my "new" (actually bought used at 55% of retail) 55-210, as it is incredibly slow at 210 mm, but the OSS does work and that's more important for me.

Please, if you have a moment after you make your decision, please inform me whether any of the above influenced your decision OR if you found my approach non-productive.

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GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I agree that this should be a better lens than the kit lens. I've read a few reviews on it. One reviewer said it has a fast focus but feels plasticy ( if that's a word). I would rather buy a better lens from the get go rather than being disappointed in the kit lens, replacing it & be stuck with a lens I won't use.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

I will not try to convince you about the diferences or lack of between APSC and m4/3. It is your money. However what I'd tell you is this: what ever camera you chose, "kit" lenses are only so so. Anyone in this thread who "recommends" them have not shot that camera with a better lens. As far as a7II vs A6000 size wise? Yes it is a little bigger but you get so much more with it and the size of the a7 is identical to the Olympus EM-1 so it isn't big at all. Honestly, I'd go with the A7 otherwise just go with m4/3 and take advantage of the amazing lens selection and in body image stabilization. Good luck and remember you will be the weak link not any of these cameras - they are all so good.