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Nov 27, 2015 00:35:49   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
lev29 wrote:
I own Sony digital ILC cameras, both A-mt (A55) & E-mt (a6000). For the latter, I now own 4 lenses: Lensbaby Composer Pro with Sweet 50 & Fisheye optics, the pancake 16 mm f/2.8, the 35 mm f/1.8 with OSS, and purchased <1 week ago, the 55-210 mm f/4-6.3 with OSS.

My approach to answering your inquiry is mostly conceptual, and I already know from your other posts that you've got at least as good an understanding about Photography, in general or perhaps better than mine.

1. Is cost a major limiting factor for you? Obviously, this is in relative terms. You don't need to answer me, but how much are you willing to spend on a new camera and some lenses for it collectively?

2. Do you want to ANY video recording with it W/O using a tripod?

3. Do you have or foresee developing hand tremors? I have them occasionally and they're due to Parkinson's Disease (PD).

Let's keep Q1 in mind when you ultimately determine which E-mount camera you're going to settle on: an FE such as the a7 II vs an APS-C, the a6000 or its successor rumored to debut this February.

If your answer to Q2 is Yes, then the ONLY way, as I just discovered, that you can do such with a telephoto lens and no tripod is to buy a telephoto lens with OSS (=IS=VR) built in to it. Currently, it appears that your options are quite limited if you're on a budget.

Regardless of your answer to Q2, if your reply to Q3 is Yes, then you have an important choice to make! For Image Stabilization, you'll need to buy lenses equipped with OSS if you pick the a6000, period! If you don't want to pay the premium for that feature in every lens, you then have two possible options.
a. Buy the a7 II or one of the other mark II a7's.
b. Wait for the a6000's successor, which is strongly rumored to incorporate IS at the cost of increasing the camera body's thickness.

Opinion: unless you're a real purist and perfectionist about photography, I wouldn't take the Full frame vs APS issue that seriously. Oh, and I'm not ready to conclude yet that I "like" my "new" (actually bought used at 55% of retail) 55-210, as it is incredibly slow at 210 mm, but the OSS does work and that's more important for me.

Please, if you have a moment after you make your decision, please inform me whether any of the above influenced your decision OR if you found my approach non-productive.

Good Luck! &#9996;&#127996;&#65039;&#128526;
I own Sony digital ILC cameras, both A-mt (A55) &a... (show quote)


To answer your questions:

1. Cost is not a major factor but I don't want to waste money on a bad combo. If the a7 II & right lens is better optically, I would go for it.

2. I am not interested in video at all. I take little or no video. In fact, if it were an option to have video or a better lens, I would pick the better lens. I ignored the complaints of a poor microphone for the videos on this camera.

3. My hands aren't as steady as they used to be but only due to a little OA. I think an OSS type lens appeals to me. I really like the 35mm lens on my Nikon D7100. That lens and the 24-70/2.8 are my favorite lenses so I would pretty much like something comparable. I would even consider 3 primes & no zoom if that would give me better results.

I am leaning towards the a6000 because I liked the feel of it in my hands but my Best Buy store didn't have the a7 anything for me to make a comparison. My next plan was to visit my not so local camera store unless I decide to take the Black Friday deal (body only) and start with the 35/1.8 OSS lens.

If you could just pick one lens, what would you choose as your favorite lens with this camera?

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Nov 27, 2015 00:42:50   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
You're making logical decisions. You'll be fine. From what I hear, this is an outstanding camera that offers an economy of size without a loss in image quality. Can you feel a little envy coming your way?


I will make a decision w/i a week then you can start saving for one of your own when I tell you how much I love it!

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Nov 27, 2015 00:52:48   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
tdekany wrote:
I will not try to convince you about the diferences or lack of between APSC and m4/3. It is your money. However what I'd tell you is this: what ever camera you chose, "kit" lenses are only so so. Anyone in this thread who "recommends" them have not shot that camera with a better lens. As far as a7II vs A6000 size wise? Yes it is a little bigger but you get so much more with it and the size of the a7 is identical to the Olympus EM-1 so it isn't big at all. Honestly, I'd go with the A7 otherwise just go with m4/3 and take advantage of the amazing lens selection and in body image stabilization. Good luck and remember you will be the weak link not any of these cameras - they are all so good.
I will not try to convince you about the diferenc... (show quote)


Well, that is part of my dilemma. Everyone loves the Sony cameras but the lenses for the Oly are better. Whichever one I choose, I will buy the body only and pick out a better lens to start with. I have both kit lenses for my Nikons on the shelf so I don't want to make that mistake again; although I will say that they were great learning lenses until I could afford something better. That is not the case now. I can afford what I want.

Do you have any of these cameras and if so, what is the ONE lens you would recommend?

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Nov 27, 2015 01:00:08   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Well, that is part of my dilemma. Everyone loves the Sony cameras but the lenses for the Oly are better. Whichever one I choose, I will buy the body only and pick out a better lens to start with. I have both kit lenses for my Nikons on the shelf so I don't want to make that mistake again; although I will say that they were great learning lenses until I could afford something better. That is not the case now. I can afford what I want.

Do you have any of these cameras and if so, what is the ONE lens you would recommend?
Well, that is part of my dilemma. Everyone loves t... (show quote)


See my signature, one lens solution is the Oly 12-40 2.8, or the Panasonic 12-35 2.8. I chose the Oly because of the slightly longer zoom and the Oly can be used as a semi Macro lens. The Panasonic is smaller however. Both 2.8 ZOOMS are world class

PS: Both zooms are weather proof. In this picture the zoom completely froze and had to "break" the ice as I zoomed - no issues.

PPS: when my camera gets full of sand or muddy, I give it a shower. That well sealed.

Freezing temperatures by Thomas Dekany, on Flickr

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Nov 27, 2015 01:07:13   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/ - pictures with M4/3

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Nov 27, 2015 01:33:58   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
I own a pair of Olympus E-M5MarkII bodies and for general purpose use they are great.

The Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro lens I like very much.
The Olympus M-Zuiko Digital 40-150 f2.8 pro, even with a 1.4TC is a great lens.

I havn't used anytheng else beside Canon bodies and Olympus (relatively recently)gear for years.

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Nov 27, 2015 05:43:42   #
Beagleman Loc: Indiana
 
Check Lavikka Photography in You tube for lens reviews. He thinks the Sigma "Art" lenses for the Sony E mount are the best, but they are prime lenses, not zoom.

--Beagleman

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Nov 27, 2015 06:16:54   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
GrandmaG wrote:
To answer your questions:
1. Cost is not a major factor ...
2. I am not interested in video at all ...
3. My hands aren't as steady as they used to be but only due to a little OA. I think an OSS type lens appeals to me ... I would even consider 3 primes & no zoom if that would give me better results.

I am leaning towards the a6000 because I liked the feel of it in my hands ... unless I decide to take the Black Friday deal (body only) and start with the 35/1.8 OSS lens.

If you could just pick one lens, what would you choose as your favorite lens with this camera?
To answer your questions: br 1. Cost is not a majo... (show quote)
Based on my experience, I'd do exactly what you proposed in your penultimate paragraph! I'm wary now of buying packaged kit lenses, in this case the 16-50 mm, so I didn't. Instead, I bought the 16 mm pancake & the 35 mm OSS initially. The latter is definitely one I'd go with! Mind you that when mounted on the a6000, it's too thick to fit in most shirt pockets.

:thumbup: 8-)

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Nov 27, 2015 07:02:45   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I bought my a6000 with the 18-55 and 55-210 kit lens. They are okay. But, since then, I found a Sony 10-18 and 18-105mm that quickly became my go to lenses. Both are constant F4. New, the 10-18 is about $850, $625 used. The 18-105 is about $600 new, $525 used.

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Nov 27, 2015 07:48:08   #
bobsea
 
i have the a6000 an for $600 i got a sony 18-105 f4 lens and the images are stunning.

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Nov 27, 2015 07:56:10   #
picturesofdogs Loc: Dallas, Texas.
 
Own both the a6000 and A7ii and several lenses for each. Nothing wrong with the 16-50. Highly recommend the 50 1.8 emount for the a6000. Gives you the equivalent of a 75mm. The clarity and color reproduction are outstanding.

As to an a6000 replacement, it been coming out next month since August.

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Nov 27, 2015 08:09:10   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
I have a 6000 and took this image with a 16-50mm kit lens.



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Nov 27, 2015 08:14:49   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
Another with a 6000 and 16-50



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Nov 27, 2015 08:20:02   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
And another. Sorry I couldn't get them to all post together.



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Nov 27, 2015 08:31:28   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Nice shots, billnourse!!

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