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Apr 25, 2012 07:57:47   #
dustywing Loc: North East WI
 
Sounds to me you already made up your mind.

I have a crop camera and buy lens that will take good pictures with it. I have found a couple of full frame lens used, for a price that works. I my self would take a 2.8 lens. Then I like to take early AM, late PM shots and like the extra speed.
If or when I get a full frame camera, then I guess I'll have to replace those lenses.

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Apr 25, 2012 08:20:26   #
lhdiver Loc: Midwest
 
Yes, I would go with the 2.8, especially if you want to do night or low light work. For night sky shots, the faster the better.

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Apr 25, 2012 08:42:06   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
bioteacher wrote:
safetyhat wrote:
Why don't you consider the Sigma 10-20?
Also, I not sure that you should be planning for an upgrade that may never happen, buy what you need for now and plan your upgrade if it gets to be a reality.


I looked at the Sigma 10 -20mm 3.5 & 4.5, but both the Canon and Tokina got better reviews.
The reason I want something that I can use if I upgrade is because I have 6 FD lenses sitting on my shelf.


Have you tried putting the FD's on ebay. There's still a pretty good market out there. :thumbup:

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Apr 25, 2012 08:56:10   #
djmarti Loc: cape cod,
 
I have the sigma 10 20 and is very good for under 500. It does have some distorion issues which can easily be corrected in post processing but the images are sharp and manually focusing works awesom. With these lenses you can really make the front subject look so big compared to your backround, here is an example.



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Apr 25, 2012 09:10:38   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
I have the EF-S 10-22 lens. It is sharp, compact, and works perfectly on my 60D body. It's worth the little extra money.

bioteacher wrote:
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?

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Apr 25, 2012 09:13:27   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
I have the Tokina 11-16mm on a cropped Nikon body and it is my favorite. No vignetting, fast, and very sharp. Check out Ken Rockwell's review. No problems with CA.

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Apr 25, 2012 10:37:14   #
Semprasectum
 
This may be out of the price range you are thinking about, but the Nikon 16mm/2.8 fisheye is a magnificent lens.

Also, you should never purchase a lens based on price. . . if you do, you will regret it. Buy the best you can afford, but if you have a choice of 2 and one is a little better but is a little more expensive, don't take the cheaper lens. .. .always buy the best performing lens you can afford. JMHO

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Apr 25, 2012 10:47:15   #
George Kravis
 
I have the Tamron 10-24mm which has performed well for me and you get 2-4 mm's more range at comparable price. Have you considered it?

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Apr 25, 2012 11:00:35   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Semprasectum wrote:
This may be out of the price range you are thinking about, but the Nikon 16mm/2.8 fisheye is a magnificent lens.

Also, you should never purchase a lens based on price. . . if you do, you will regret it. Buy the best you can afford, but if you have a choice of 2 and one is a little better but is a little more expensive, don't take the cheaper lens. .. .always buy the best performing lens you can afford. JMHO


Having made this mistake several times...I say heed this advice.

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Apr 25, 2012 11:15:03   #
mjbrock2012 Loc: Grants Pass,Oregon
 
I am very happy with the Canon 10-22.Extremely sharp.

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Apr 25, 2012 12:46:36   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
rpavich wrote:
Semprasectum wrote:
This may be out of the price range you are thinking about, but the Nikon 16mm/2.8 fisheye is a magnificent lens.

Also, you should never purchase a lens based on price. . . if you do, you will regret it. Buy the best you can afford, but if you have a choice of 2 and one is a little better but is a little more expensive, don't take the cheaper lens. .. .always buy the best performing lens you can afford. JMHO


Having made this mistake several times...I say heed this advice.
quote=Semprasectum This may be out of the price r... (show quote)


It is not the money, they both got very good reviews, but the Canon is 10-22mm f 3.5 while the Tokina is 11-16 f 2.8. If there was a clear winner I would not be concerned about the $200.00. These seem to be the top lenses in this field at this point for Canon cameras (cropped sensor). Thanks everyone for all your advice.

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Apr 25, 2012 12:48:39   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
bioteacher wrote:

I have a cropped sensor, but would prefer to buy a comparable zoom for a full format sensor so if I ever upgrade I will still be able to use the lens.
Thank you for your suggestions


This is probably not going to happen. That 1.6 crop factor makes a really big difference and this is why they make wide angle lenses that are designed for AP-C sensors. These lenses are TOO wide for full frame sensors. You'd see what I mean if you go to your local camera store and try either the Tokina or any of the 10mm or 11mm to "whatever" focal length lenses. At 10mm, on an AP-C sensor body, that is so wide, that a photographer standing next to you and slightly in front will be in your frame. They are really that wide. You must also check the specs on lenses this wide. If they are designed for the AP-C sensor, they might still work on a full frame body, but it won't work the way it is designed to work on an AP-C body. It will not have all the electrical contacts to relay lens focal length, f-stop and other information to your EXIF saved with each image. The edges of each image will be "very" distorted.

I know how you feel. I have a Canon 7D body with the crop sensor and have the 10-22mm lens. I'm not really happy that I'm going to need a new lens when I upgrade to a full frame body but that's the way it is. I'll probably keep the 10-22 and my crop body after I buy a full frame body so it won't be a waste. I bought my 10-22mm lens used and I know I can get what I paid back. So again, no big loss. All of my other lenses will work with a full frame body except this one. When I do get the new body, I'll consider the wide angle lenses that are 16 or 17mm's at the wide end. This is about the same as the 10mm wide angle on a crop sensor.

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Apr 25, 2012 15:31:03   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Why not do the simple thing and call Canon?

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Apr 25, 2012 16:01:09   #
the f/stops here Loc: New Mexico
 
Given the two choices, that of Canon or Tokina, I would look at the Sigma 10-20mm lens. I bring that up since I have the Canon and enjoy using it, but Sigma sent me the 10-20mm lens to try out. I like it a great deal. I find it well made and sharp to the corners as it should be. I also believe the price is less than that of the Canon. Whatever way you go, Enjoy!!! J. Goffe and Remember the f/stops here!

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Apr 25, 2012 16:13:25   #
BrandyVSOP Loc: Oregon USA
 
bioteacher wrote:
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?


Hi, I was in your same place a few years ago.
I went with the 10-22 Canon EFs. It is one of my favorite lenses.

When I am deciding on a new lens, I like to see what others are doing with it.
I check out the Flickr site for that lens. Gives me a good idea of what I may hope to get.
10-22mm EFS Slide show ~
http://www.flickr.com/groups/efs1022/pool/show/

Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 Slide Show ~
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1010629@N23/pool/show/

I never used the Tokina, but have been very happy with my Canon 10-22.

Here is link to my own file of 10-22 images ~ Your millage however may vary ~
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brandyvsop/sets/72157627534813700/show/

Good luck with your decision

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