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Apr 24, 2012 06:47:43   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?

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Apr 24, 2012 07:24:19   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
bioteacher wrote:
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?


Personally, I'd go with the Tokina. The price difference would do it for me and it's a great lens.


Do you have a full frame camera or a crop camera?


Here is a nice Canon 16mm-35mm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/486708-USA/Canon_1910B002AA_EF_16_35mm_f_2_8L_II.html


Here is an 8mm-15mm fish eye

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732107-USA/Canon_4427B002_EF_8_15mm_f_4L_Fisheye.html


Canon 14mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519474-GREY/Canon_2045B002_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html

Canon 20mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12082-GREY/Canon_2509A003_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html

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Apr 24, 2012 08:23:28   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
rpavich wrote:
bioteacher wrote:
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?



Personally, I'd go with the Tokina. The price difference would do it for me and it's a great lens.


Do you have a full frame camera or a crop camera?


Here is a nice Canon 16mm-35mm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/486708-USA/Canon_1910B002AA_EF_16_35mm_f_2_8L_II.html


Here is an 8mm-15mm fish eye

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732107-USA/Canon_4427B002_EF_8_15mm_f_4L_Fisheye.html


Canon 14mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519474-GREY/Canon_2045B002_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html

Canon 20mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12082-GREY/Canon_2509A003_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html
quote=bioteacher I have done a lot of research an... (show quote)

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Apr 24, 2012 08:25:37   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
bioteacher wrote:
rpavich wrote:
bioteacher wrote:
I have done a lot of research and the literature is confusing as to the better lens so I would like your opinions
a) EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Autofocus Lens
or
b) Tokina
11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX Autofocus Lens for Canon APS-C DSLRs

I am concerned about the CA on the Tokina lens. Price differential is around $230 with the hood. Thank you all for your help.

Also, why don't they make that many extra wide and wide angle lenses for full frame sensors?



Personally, I'd go with the Tokina. The price difference would do it for me and it's a great lens.


Do you have a full frame camera or a crop camera?


Here is a nice Canon 16mm-35mm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/486708-USA/Canon_1910B002AA_EF_16_35mm_f_2_8L_II.html


Here is an 8mm-15mm fish eye

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732107-USA/Canon_4427B002_EF_8_15mm_f_4L_Fisheye.html


Canon 14mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519474-GREY/Canon_2045B002_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html

Canon 20mm super wide

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12082-GREY/Canon_2509A003_Super_Wide_Angle_EF.html
quote=bioteacher I have done a lot of research an... (show quote)
quote=rpavich quote=bioteacher I have done a lot... (show quote)



I have a cropped sensor, but would prefer to buy a comparable zoom for a full format sensor so if I ever upgrade I will still be able to use the lens.
Thank you for your suggestions

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Apr 24, 2012 08:47:38   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.

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Apr 24, 2012 09:10:10   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?

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Apr 24, 2012 09:17:42   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
bioteacher wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?


It will "work" but you will not get the usable range...it will vigenette to 15mm.

Sigma has a 12-24mm also....it's about 650.00

for Canon it's 16-35L II or the 17-40L.

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Apr 24, 2012 09:45:14   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
[quote=rpavich]
bioteacher wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?


It will "work" but you will not get the usable range...it will vigenette to 15mm.

Sigma has a 12-24mm also....it's about 650.00

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Apr 24, 2012 09:46:46   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
[quote=bioteacher]
rpavich wrote:
bioteacher wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?


It will "work" but you will not get the usable range...it will vigenette to 15mm.

Sigma has a 12-24mm also....it's about 650.00
quote=bioteacher quote=fstop22 The Tokina 11-16m... (show quote)


I guess my question is Can you attach an EF-S lens to a Canon camera with a full sensor?

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Apr 24, 2012 09:54:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
[quote=bioteacher]
bioteacher wrote:
rpavich wrote:
bioteacher wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?


It will "work" but you will not get the usable range...it will vigenette to 15mm.

Sigma has a 12-24mm also....it's about 650.00
quote=bioteacher quote=fstop22 The Tokina 11-16m... (show quote)


I guess my question is Can you attach an EF-S lens to a Canon camera with a full sensor?
quote=rpavich quote=bioteacher quote=fstop22 Th... (show quote)


Yes you can...with no damage...but why would you want to?

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Apr 24, 2012 11:58:50   #
renomike Loc: Reno, Nevada
 
rpavich wrote:
I guess my question is Can you attach an EF-S lens to a Canon camera with a full sensor?


Yes you can...with no damage...but why would you want to?[/quote]

That's not my understanding... A full sensor Canon camara will only work with Canon EF lens, not the EF-S lenses.

Mike

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Apr 24, 2012 12:24:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
renomike wrote:


That's not my understanding... A full sensor Canon camara will only work with Canon EF lens, not the EF-S lenses.

Mike

You are correct! My bad...cropped sensor lenses will work with full frame Canons (but vignette) but EF-S will interfere and break something...thanks for the correction.

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Apr 25, 2012 05:24:52   #
safetyhat
 
Why don't you consider the Sigma 10-20?
Also, I not sure that you should be planning for an upgrade that may never happen, buy what you need for now and plan your upgrade if it gets to be a reality.

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Apr 25, 2012 06:47:53   #
bioteacher Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
safetyhat wrote:
Why don't you consider the Sigma 10-20?
Also, I not sure that you should be planning for an upgrade that may never happen, buy what you need for now and plan your upgrade if it gets to be a reality.


I looked at the Sigma 10 -20mm 3.5 & 4.5, but both the Canon and Tokina got better reviews.
The reason I want something that I can use if I upgrade is because I have 6 FD lenses sitting on my shelf.

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Apr 25, 2012 07:39:56   #
02Nomad Loc: Catonsville, MD
 
[quote=bioteacher]
bioteacher wrote:
rpavich wrote:
bioteacher wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
The Tokina 11-16mm is a great lens, Tack sharp in all the corners and less expensive. Take lens hood & any filters off and shoot with a full frame camera. Reduces to about 15mm according to Ken Rockwell. I have the Nikon D7000 and love this little lens.


Can you shoot full frame with Canon cameras also?


It will "work" but you will not get the usable range...it will vigenette to 15mm.

Sigma has a 12-24mm also....it's about 650.00
quote=bioteacher quote=fstop22 The Tokina 11-16m... (show quote)


I guess my question is Can you attach an EF-S lens to a Canon camera with a full sensor?
quote=rpavich quote=bioteacher quote=fstop22 Th... (show quote)


I use a Sigma 17-70 on my 50D and tried it on my 5D MkII when I first got it....what I saw on the LCD looked like what you would see in a movie when they're trying to give the impression of looking through a telescope; round picture with a black border! I had even emailed Canon before I tried it and, initially the guy said that he thought that it would work. After I tried it, I got another email from him saying that I should not even try!.

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